2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 John Cook every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Kasprzak obviously . When he can be bothered he's as good a heat leader as anybody , whereas Cook is reliable journeyman rider in the top flight , he's not made the jump into world class speedway to the level Kasprzak has . Plus Cook rode for Edinburgh Comedy post surely? Who else in the top flight has Cook ridden for besides Belle Vue? Whereas it's easier to name who KK has NOT ridden for! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Craig Cook hasn't won anything which pretty much explains him. Had the potential with Tai to be awesome for GB but never really made the grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Comedy post surely? Who else in the top flight has Cook ridden for besides Belle Vue? Whereas it's easier to name who KK has NOT ridden for! What's that got to do with anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 What's that got to do with anything ? KK is the journey man not Cook in the top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Cook will never be a GP rider so how is this even question. i rate kk but the last season he was in gps hardley scored a point cookie won a race as a wildcard and to prove his from good stuff he lives about within walking distance from me dont know craig to talk to but i do know his dad from years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 KK is the journey man not Cook in the top flight. You can be a journey man if you are that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 So I think the result of this thread is simply KK is the better rider but most people would prefer Cook in their team because of his never say die attitude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 This is a joke right? Kasprazak by a country mile. Maybe Cook around a select few tracks in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 You can be a journey man if you are that good And can be sacked several times for not bothering as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 And can be sacked several times for not bothering as well. There is that side to him . I saw him ride like a complete novice for Coventry at Peterborough one night and then watched him finish on the rostrum at the GP Challenge final at Poole the following night . Yes Kasprzak can be unpredictable , but he's reached heights in our sport that I can't see Cook reaching . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I agree a silly thread. One was runner up to Hancock in the gp series in 2014, the other a second string/heat leader who has never ridden outside the UK. Guess we will see who finishes with the higher average in 2017 in the UK. Think we know the answer to this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 There is that side to him . I saw him ride like a complete novice for Coventry at Peterborough one night and then watched him finish on the rostrum at the GP Challenge final at Poole the following night . Yes Kasprzak can be unpredictable , but he's reached heights in our sport that I can't see Cook reaching . be interesting to see how many 'moments' he has for Poole, but his career is littered with them. world number 2 one year, struggles to beat a novice the next year. and that's his history race to race! I agree a silly thread. One was runner up to Hancock in the gp series in 2014, the other a second string/heat leader who has never ridden outside the UK. Guess we will see who finishes with the higher average in 2017 in the UK. Think we know the answer to this already. We already knew the answer. Yet most posters are picking Cook for there team. KK is easily the better rider but that's not the complete answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Always considered KK to be what I call "a head racer", when he mentally ok, unbeatable , if he cant get his head round it useless. Cook on the other hand is total commitment, but will probably end up like most British riders reach a certain level and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Always considered KK to be what I call "a head racer", when he mentally ok, unbeatable , if he cant get his head round it useless. Cook on the other hand is total commitment, but will probably end up like most British riders reach a certain level and that's it. Most British riders seem to lack "charisma" Fred Smith, David Jones, William James from Uddersfield....... Or Krystof Kasperzak, "Polish Rocket", Antonio Lindback, the "cool runnings" of Swedish Speedway, Hans Andersen, "Dynamic Dane.. See what I'm getting at.......? When there names are up in lights which sound exciting..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 KK is the journey man not Cook in the top flight.I suggest you look up the definition of "journeyman". I'm not sure former World number 2 is it while Cooks, good but never really that great is journeyman levelRacing in the GPs means your face fits, you belong to an under-represented country or you had a good meeting in the Challenge. In my opinion KK is past his peak and the jury is still out on whether Cook has yet reached his. Back the Brits!Face fits? KK qualified. How close has Cook got the qualifying? Bombed out at the first hurdle a few time. KK was World number 2 so may well have peaked but Cook will be lucky to make it to World 32 even with improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I suggest you look up the definition of "journeyman". I'm not sure former World number 2 is it while Cooks, good but never really that great is journeyman level Face fits? KK qualified. How close has Cook got the qualifying? Bombed out at the first hurdle a few time. KK was World number 2 so may well have peaked but Cook will be lucky to make it to World 32 even with improvement. I wasn't talking specifically about KK when I mentioned GPs (the post I answered said that the GP riders were the best 15 in the world), irrespective of individuals records I would rather have Cook in my team and those teams he's ridden for seem to have been happy enough with his efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I suggest you look up the definition of "journeyman". I'm not sure former World number 2 is it while Cooks, good but never really that great is journeyman levelFace fits? KK qualified. How close has Cook got the qualifying? Bombed out at the first hurdle a few time. Depends on your definition. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Journeyman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Who is more successful - KK. Who would I have in my team - Cook. I will always back a Brit over anyone else. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Cook 100% team man and the rider 99% of Belle vue fans would want to be the 1st rider signed every season.Gives 100% for the team in every race and never gives up. Kasprzak fans reaction when signed for their club in the past.Can be brilliant but would rather x had signed. Which rider will turn up this week will he let us down.When hes on it best rider on the track if not forget it.If he misses the gate he sometimes gives up and just pootles around at the back not even trying for what maybe an important third place point. So Kasprzak on his day can be one of the best riders in the world as a team man can he let your team down big time. Cook on the whole rider on rider not as good but can beat Kasprzak and any other top rider in the league.As a team man he will give you 100% every meeting there is no one better. Depends what you are looking for in a team member but for me its Cook every time. Edited February 14, 2017 by B.V 72 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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