Sidney the robin Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Oxford signed Helge Langli who could have made it (he did beat Ray Wilson in one memorable ride at Cowley I recall) but he picked up an injury off track and never re-appeared...more's the pity! Of course his brother, Tormod, appeared at Newport and was more than useful when he, too, was injured off track (hand-gliding accident). Coventry signed East German Gerhard Ullenbrock on the recommendation of one Garry Middleton. Matti Olin (Finland) was also another 'Bees' capture. Ulf Lovaas Conny Samuelsson what is your opinion of those two Steve.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Henrik Glucklich,Kjelle Gimre, Hassie Dannielsson, Knud Ellegaard, Leif Berlin,Larry Kosta,Kurt Hansen, Stanislav Urban,Joseph Angermuller,Les Liesk,Adi Funk,a few that bring back memories. few Wolves there but disagree that Hasse Danielsson was pants so must be good then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Ulf Lovaas Conny Samuelsson what is your opinion of those two Steve.? Ulf was one of my early heroes...took a while to get going but towards the end of the 74 season was really flying. Shame he never rode again in Britain after that (His wife gave birth to twins if I remember). Never saw Conny ride but remember my brother saying that he was less than impressive round Cowley but a revelation on some of the bigger circuits (Swindon and Coventry for example). Another rider who never re-appeared in Britain and I'm surprised some enterprising promoter didn't give him a second chance. He excelled at Ice Speedway and appeared twice (?) on the rostrum in the World Championship in that particular discipline. Edited February 1, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Oxford signed Helge Langli who could have made it (he did beat Ray Wilson in one memorable ride at Cowley I recall) but he picked up an injury off track and never re-appeared...more's the pity! Of course his brother, Tormod, appeared at Newport and was more than useful when he, too, was injured off track (hand-gliding accident). Coventry signed East German Gerhard Ullenbrock on the recommendation of one Garry Middleton. Matti Olin (Finland) was also another 'Bees' capture. Tormod must've had hands like shovels to go hand gliding Just that the shovels weren't big enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Tormod must've had hands like shovels to go hand gliding Just that the shovels weren't big enough Strewth...did I really type that! Of course I should have written Hang gliding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 few Wolves there but disagree that Hasse Danielsson was pants so must be good thenI totally agree "Red Flag" Danielsson was a very promising rider indeed not all the riders listed were poor not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I totally agree "Red Flag" Danielsson was a very promising rider indeed not all the riders listed were poor not at all. Did okay for 'The Brummies' as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I do remember in 84 for Reading Malc popping out the start in heat 8 and winning and beating Frank Andersen and another??I never went to Exeter in the 69/70/71/72 seasons but first went in 73 to see Autrey.It was such a shock to see as a young lad with the track shape and all the streets behind remember it well.I would imagine Ashby/Kilby would be up there with the best around the county ground even though both said they were not totally in love with the track.Holden (bless him was decent there) also Farrell and Maxfield were two i enjoyed watching. In '84 it could have been Louis Carr. I used to have all the programmes but don't have them now. I might look at my speedway stars to see who it was. Carr rode at 2 for us in a short spell that year & beat no less than Hans Nielsen on his debut! Ashby & Kilby were just before my time, but friends sat that Kilb in particular was an expert at the CG, whilst Crash had his best season ever when he joined the Falcons under the old rider control system, even though I don't think he liked it there very much! Holden was never a star at Exeter, but seemed to be destined for great things in 1977 until he died so tragically, so we will never know. Farrell was a real racer, but injuries held him back & he fell away after he left Exeter whilst Robert Maxfield was a real favourite with Exeter fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 In '84 it could have been Louis Carr. I used to have all the programmes but don't have them now. I might look at my speedway stars to see who it was. Carr rode at 2 for us in a short spell that year & beat no less than Hans Nielsen on his debut! Ashby & Kilby were just before my time, but friends sat that Kilb in particular was an expert at the CG, whilst Crash had his best season ever when he joined the Falcons under the old rider control system, even though I don't think he liked it there very much! Holden was never a star at Exeter, but seemed to be destined for great things in 1977 until he died so tragically, so we will never know. Farrell was a real racer, but injuries held him back & he fell away after he left Exeter whilst Robert Maxfield was a real favourite with Exeter fans. I was there...if I recall Ivan Mauger ran a last in the same race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 In '84 it could have been Louis Carr. I used to have all the programmes but don't have them now. I might look at my speedway stars to see who it was. Carr rode at 2 for us in a short spell that year & beat no less than Hans Nielsen on his debut! http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/docs/exeter/1984.pdf Carr had a couple of meetings under his belt before he beat Nielsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I've had a little look thru this period and can find ten examples of foreign riders averaging 2.00 or less (from at least ten matches). Strangely most of them have yet to be mentioned on this thread, and one of them went on appeared in the world individual final! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I was there...if I recall Ivan Mauger ran a last in the same race? He did. http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/docs/exeter/1984.pdf Carr had a couple of meetings under his belt before he beat Nielsen. Thanks, the sands of time.... I've had a little look thru this period and can find ten examples of foreign riders averaging 2.00 or less (from at least ten matches). Strangely most of them have yet to be mentioned on this thread, and one of them went on appeared in the world individual final! I suspect that you have the advantage of having searched through records, where most were relying on memories, some of which have several years to chug through, like mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/docs/exeter/1984.pdf Carr had a couple of meetings under his belt before he beat Nielsen. Thanks Dave as usual you come up with the stats i havent quite got Dementia yet ( a wicked illness😡) Andy Campbell eh!!.was the other Exeter rider in heat 8. Edited February 2, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks Dave as usual you come up with the stats i havent quite got Dementia yet ( a wicked illness) Andy Campbell eh!!.was the other Exeter rider in heat 8. If I recall the meeting involving Louis Carr and Hans Nielsen resulted in a last heat decider. Mel Taylor was on gate one (can't recall gate two) Hans on three and Andy Campbell on four...the favoured gate. Entering the first bend Hans took Andy very wide allowing Mel to take the initiative and Oxford recorded a 5-1 and thus winning the match...hope I've got that right from memory! As you can imagine we, the Oxford fans, went home very happy but it was a close shave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Henrik Glucklich, Henryk doesn't really fit into the unknown category in the title.He was in a few Individual and Team World Finals before he signed for Reading.Was really past his best by then,but is an absolute legend in Bydgoszcz.One of my friends from Bydgoszcz has Henryk as his all time favourite rider. Edited February 2, 2017 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Henryk doesn't really fit into the unknown category in the title.He was in a few Individual and Team World Finals before he signed for Reading.Was really past his best by then,but is an absolute legend in Bydgoszcz.One of my friends from Bydgoszcz has Henryk as his all time favourite rider.He was not unknown but he failed in Britain 😜god "iris just have a chat debate like everybody else is it that hard.?✌️️ Edited February 2, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 He was not unknown Exactly.And all i was doing was pointing that out.No big deal and nothing to get upset about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Exactly.And all i was doing was pointing that out.No big deal and nothing to get upset aboutPoint taken sorry "iris, what was your opinion of the german's Hack,Wassermann, Riss (snr who i rated highly ) .I ask you because they were not world beaters but very talented and you know the Germany history / Future scene very well. Edited February 2, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) I've had a little look thru this period and can find ten examples of foreign riders averaging 2.00 or less (from at least ten matches). Again, as I mentioned in another thread, Claes Jensen has perhaps (I haven't really checked) the worst record in British speedway; one point from 13 matches. I did see him at Plough Lane. Halifax's Adam Olkiewicz hasn't been mentioned yet, and he was poor. Sadly seems he passed away in 2008 at the young age of 54. Another was Norwegian Sigvart Pedersen. While he failed to reach the 2.00 figure in 16 matches, from what I saw of him, he did look better than that. Jiri Hnidak was one of the few real Czech failures (at King's Lynn in 1982). There were a lot who didn't really get a chance to shine, although it's doubtful that they would have impressed at all. These include Jan Puk, Jozef Kafel, Lars Ericsson, Rauli Makinen, Marek Kepa, Christoph Betzl, Uno Johansson, and Bernt Odermatt. Steve Edited February 2, 2017 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Point taken sorry "iris, what was your opinion of the german's Hack,Wassermann, Riss (snr who i rated highly ) .I ask you because they were not world beaters but very talented and you know the Germany history / Future scene very well. Klaus Lausch could have made it in Britain (I remember him beating Michael Lee at Lynn on one occasion) but the lure of the continent proved too big! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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