Steve55 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Shocking refereeing display. What should have been a Scunthorpe / Glasgow final turned into a Sheffield / Redcar one. Referee bottled excluding a Sheffield rider in both the semi-final and final. Hope Charles Wright is OK. All the best Rob Were you actually at the meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Shocking refereeing display. What should have been a Scunthorpe / Glasgow final turned into a Sheffield / Redcar one. Referee bottled excluding a Sheffield rider in both the semi-final and final. Hope Charles Wright is OK. All the best Rob How are those grapes tasting down the bottom end of the table? Never seen so much poop on a forum post. Edited October 8, 2017 by Walton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You normally talk a lot of sense... but on this occasion I would have to disagree. Bjerre was in front of Josh and turned when he got to the corner, don't know what else he could have done. Summers finished 4th, which meant Redcar got a 6-3 and deservedly reached the final He could have given Josh enough room to turn the bike. Josh had raced into a gap that was there, only for Bjerre to completely take that gap away, by moving across. In my book, that makes Bjerre the cause of the stoppage. Sheffield were lucky to get a re-run in the first place, as Bjerre was completely out of it first time around. I had a good view of the incident of the first semi-final, from the third/fourth bend. I had a much poorer view of the tight finish to the second semi, but one of the track photographers caught the moment perfectly... showing Summers in third as they crossed the line. Fair play to Sheffield on riding their luck, and I hope Charles Wright is OK. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 They were going to hold it on a neutral track, but it was rained off. The crowd would have been great at Somerset, it always is on that night. As you rightly say "on that night". But any other night of the year the crowd would be considerably lower. And let's face it, Somerset is a neutral track this season, but the locals probably still regard themselves as 2nd division fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 To win an event or a league you need a little luck,and Sheffield had lady luck on their side yesterday,but were deserved winners i get a bit sick of the home advantage thing,sure we had a home pair winning but at end of the day,home or not, you still have to win it Sheffield have been the stand out team this year and deserving of their Silverware in the league and the pairs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The choice is simple: Either, 1) accept that someone will have home advantage and put up with a few undeserved home track winners or 2) live without these events (except one at Somerset on GP eve) as the BSPA will not want to continue staging money losing meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 howarth and wright came together due to ben barker slowing it down,if ben had got his head down and gone on,they might have took the title cos wrighty might have got the better of lasse,but what a tremendous race that was by all four riders. Certainly was the way we all saw it, Barker slowed up, and Howarth and Wright were totally committed, awful looking crash. Glasgow stormed their first three races and then let the Scunthorpe pair win their last, presumably to avoid Sheffield in the semis but Redcar looked dangerous after a poor start, so it was a gamble. Racing was a lot better towards the end, first 12 races were mostly from the gate with the inside giving a massive advantage. I thought the crowd was poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I thought the crowd was poor. What by virtue of.... 1. Their behaviour? 2. Them being paupers? Sorry, you mean their total numbers. Time for my taxi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Josh Auty needs a ban for trying to punch Bjerre off his bike. Should've stuck to his retirement the baby. Come across some joke speedway fans throughout the years of being a supporter, but the 5/6 Workington fans on the 3rd/4th bend who were booing the Sheffield pair and calling Kyle Howarth a disgrace after getting to his feet after Charles Wright had took him out from behind are an absolute disgrace. Complete bitter, brain dead group of invalids. Well the Workington fans on the first bend were certainly not booing Kyle, I didn't agree with the decision but hey ho !!!! A long drawn out boring meeting where if you weren't off gates 1 and 3 you'd had it, home track advantage prevailed once again , these meetings should be on a neutral track, complete farce, poor crowd considering all teams were in it. I did think it was bad pulling Sheffield team onto the grass for celebrations when the Ambulance hadn't even come off the left with Charles Wright, very disrespectful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Shocking refereeing display. What should have been a Scunthorpe / Glasgow final turned into a Sheffield / Redcar one. Referee bottled excluding a Sheffield rider in both the semi-final and final. Hope Charles Wright is OK. All the best Rob Which Sheffield rider should have been excluded? the one who Auty tried to knock off on the first bend, who for some unknown reason was warned for dangerous riding, which I always thought was a straight exclusion? or the one that was in front when auty tried to go round him and ran out of track? just interested. cant comment on the Glasgow incident as I couldn't see it but the reaction of the crowd said it all to me They were going to hold it on a neutral track, but it was rained off. The crowd would have been great at Somerset, it always is on that night. you mean the neutral track that is the home track to Josh G, Charles Wright and Richard Lawson, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Which Sheffield rider should have been excluded? The one who fenced Josh Auty on the third bend, by moving across and taking his line away. Josh can't dematerialise out of the way, strangely enough. Although not sure why the race was stopped in the first time of asking. The Scunthorpe camp were told it was because Auty moved at the start, but did anyone see any movement? The ref certainly left it very late - the riders were entering the third turn by the time the race was stopped. You need a bit of luck to win and Sheffield certainly had that yesterday. All the best Rob Edited October 9, 2017 by lucifer sam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The one who fenced Josh Auty on the third bend, by moving across and taking his line away. Josh can't dematerialise out of the way, strangely enough. Although not sure why the race was stopped in the first time of asking. The Scunthorpe camp were told it was because Auty moved at the start, but did anyone see any movement? The ref certainly left it very late - the riders were entering the third turn by the time the race was stopped. You need a bit of luck to win and Sheffield certainly had that yesterday. All the best Rob The race was stopped because Auty tried to deliberately put Bjerre into the fence to stop his outside run, luckily Bjerre stayed on his bike and didn't get injured, so Auty shouldn't even have been in the race at all. A Scunthorpe supporting friend of ours didn't have a problem with what Bjerre did on the third bend, in fact his comment was that he knows Auty is an idiot but at least he is our idiot, so he didn't agree with your take on what happened on the third bent either, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The race was stopped because Auty tried to deliberately put Bjerre into the fence to stop his outside run, luckily Bjerre stayed on his bike and didn't get injured, so Auty shouldn't even have been in the race at all. No, that's not why the race was stopped - it's certainly not the information that was passed onto the Scunthorpe camp in any case. Auty was warned for moving at the start. Which (1) nobody but the referee seems to be seen (2) the referee took half a lap to decide. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The race was stopped because Auty tried to deliberately put Bjerre into the fence to stop his outside run, luckily Bjerre stayed on his bike and didn't get injured, so Auty shouldn't even have been in the race at all. i wasnt at the meeting so shouldnt comment but if the race was stopped for that reason,why wasnt Auty excluded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 i wasnt at the meeting so shouldnt comment but if the race was stopped for that reason,why wasnt Auty excluded? Thats what everyone wanted to know, it was stopped with the riders on the back straight not for a starting offence, think the only way the referee could put all four riders in the rerun was if he made up a starting offence very dangerous by Auty, but luckily Bjerre got away unscathed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Josh Auty needs a ban for trying to punch Bjerre off his bike. Should've stuck to his retirement the baby. Come across some joke speedway fans throughout the years of being a supporter, but the 5/6 Workington fans on the 3rd/4th bend who were booing the Sheffield pair and calling Kyle Howarth a disgrace after getting to his feet after Charles Wright had took him out from behind are an absolute disgrace. Complete bitter, brain dead group of invalids. tworkington fans dont boo anymore , they just rip up seats and hurl flares .. EDITED ,, Edited October 9, 2017 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thats what everyone wanted to know, it was stopped with the riders on the back straight not for a starting offence, think the only way the referee could put all four riders in the rerun was if he made up a starting offence very dangerous by Auty, but luckily Bjerre got away unscathed So the race wasnt actually stopped for the reason you point out that Auty tried to fence Bjerre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 the red light was actually put on as the riders were on the second bend, its just that 3 riders decided to go flat out for the lead and probably decided to look what was happening on track rather than the lights on the outside, yes lasse did move to the outside,to cover josh`s run,but still left enough room for josh to pass(just) plus josh also had the option to shut the throttle off,and this was the view of most of us on the 3rd bend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 So the race wasnt actually stopped for the reason you point out that Auty tried to fence Bjerre? Who knows why it was stopped, but it was stopped just after Auty tried to put Bjerre into the fence with Howarth and Kerr on the back straight, bit late for a starting offence, even you must see that you tell me why it was stopped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Who knows why it was stopped, but it was stopped just after Auty tried to put Bjerre into the fence with Howarth and Kerr on the back straight, bit late for a starting offence, even you must see that you tell me why it was stopped And yet the referee told the Scunthorpe team manager, Dave Peet, that it was stopped because Josh had moved at the start. Which I don't think he had. Your confusion proves as to the cause of the stoppage proves that. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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