The White Knight Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sky coverage of the Premier League up until now has been very good. The problem, to me, is they don't share the Meetings around as well as they might. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) along with many other users of the tec thats around these days . i say , dont knock it until you have tried it . everyone needs a perk in life to perk up their life . no ones law abiding these days . its a sign of the times . as long as you have got good broadband speed , you can get anything on tv you want ( so i have been told ) its like a loop hole in the law . ARTICLE 50 SPRINGS TO MIND ! we voted to get out, but now our votes dont mean jack ......... I recall the days of VHS when I recorded many films from the TV and stored them...which apparently was illegal (the law stated that you had to wipe them after a number of days/weeks). I remember a policeman friend (?) who once saw my collection and stated that I was breaking the law but it was impossible to monitor/legislate and a blind eye was often turned to the practice. I seem to recall that Bob Monkhouse had to go to court regarding his vast collection of movies which he had on film but common sense prevailed and they were saved for prosperity. Edited January 28, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Like Ove Fundin Fan I have BT Infinity with the TV package and I have to say its 9/10 for use and is a cheaper option than Sky if you can get Infinity in your area. I also bought a "box" online ( a one off purchase ) and that gets me all the Sky channels inc Sky sports. That is however not so stable and I would rate it as 6/10 but viewable and enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) If you wish to watch sky sports legally without having to have a sky TV package or BT one, simply download the sky sports app for your phone and pay £10 per month for the full package. To watch it on your big screen TV simply buy a £30 Chromecast device and hey presto! Edited January 28, 2017 by jchapman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) If you wish to watch sky sports legally without having to have a sky TV package or BT one, simply download the sky sports app for your phone and pay £10 per month for the full package. To watch it on your big screen TV simply buy a £30 Chromecast device and hey presto! Didn't think Sky could be "cast" to a big tv by any of the "casting devices" Edited January 28, 2017 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 quite a few of us are of the opinion that the sport doesn't televise that well, although sky have done better than most. Plus its getting too embarrassing with ad hoc teams - when they show pl fixtures next year there'll be any amount of duplicate riders - hang on doesn't he ride for Belle Vue? Televising has done nothing for attendances maybe its best sky pull out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 One of the root causes of speedways demise is multi-team riders, no more club loyalty, I suppose the riders see/here what other pro sports people earn, and want a bit of that as well, only naturally, but, club speedway, especially in the UK does not generate enough money, or sponsors, so the only way is for riders to ride for 3, even 4 clubs, that equates to 4 salaries, which is their only option.... Unfortunately, this has destroyed rider/club/fan loyalty.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) quite a few of us are of the opinion that the sport doesn't televise that well, although sky have done better than most. Plus its getting too embarrassing with ad hoc teams - when they show pl fixtures next year there'll be any amount of duplicate riders - hang on doesn't he ride for Belle Vue? Televising has done nothing for attendances maybe its best sky pull out I'd agree regarding attempting to televise speedway. I have a vast collection of DVDs and although enjoy watching them it does get frustrating when the cameraman tries to go all 'arty' and doesn't follow where the action is often just following the race leader...also I don't think that the race is best followed when filmed from the centre green. I've never thought that televising the sport 'live' does it much favours (too much padding and over analysis...something most sports suffer with nowadays in my opinion) and what would be better would be an edited version shown later in the evening and that would perhaps encourage more people to go and watch rather than sit at home (I knew someone who would rather stay at home and view a match at Cowley rather than walk the half a mile to watch it live). Has SKY improved the product? That's open to debate but what one thing is certain it hasn't raised the profile of the sport as regards attracting new punters and hasn't managed to attract a big sponsor which is something that is so important within sport nowadays. Interesting that I was watching a meeting between Oxford and Wolves from 1992 only last night and they were discussing the falling attendances even back then.. although Oxford suffered less than most because of the competitive team that often took to the track just prior to that period. Edited January 29, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) One of the root causes of speedways demise is multi-team riders, no more club loyalty, I suppose the riders see/here what other pro sports people earn, and want a bit of that as well, only naturally, but, club speedway, especially in the UK does not generate enough money, or sponsors, so the only way is for riders to ride for 3, even 4 clubs, that equates to 4 salaries, which is their only option.... Unfortunately, this has destroyed rider/club/fan loyalty....Spot on.... And it naturally brings with it the need for so many guest riders to replace those missing because they are 'elsewhere'... Guest riders which then give the meeting (and therefore the competition as a whole) zero credibility..... Tough to generate a crowd to attend a 'Team Sport' when the fans have little 'emotional loyalty' (and often no connection) to those representing them on track, in a competition which is ultimately meaningless due to being so contrived week in week out... Edited January 29, 2017 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I am firmly in the "it's so much better on TV" camp. I prefer the availability of the replay and the opportunity to listen to ( and sometimes disregard) the experts opinion. Sky have done a remarkable job and the GP coverage is fantastic. They make the product appear much better than it is in real life and when you get to the stadium it is all a bit too flat and empty. And it often comes across as amateurish in the stadium and is very stop start with any building excitement washed away by empty delays and the interval - all too often. The fact that all those years of Live TV not getting a major sponsor is not the fault of TV but of the BSPA, who quite simple failed to use the platform well OR did they sit back and think " all that lovely money, we don't need to bother much about finding more". Poorly managed over the last 20 years ( at least ) too much vested interest and concern only about "my little bit is going OK". Most of the Sky money should have gone on marketing and not for paying No.1's huge fees because those Big Stars have not put new bums on seats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Spot on.... And it naturally brings with it the need for so many guest riders to replace those missing because they are 'elsewhere'... Guest riders which then give the meeting (and therefore the competition as a whole) zero credibility..... Tough to generate a crowd to attend a 'Team Sport' when the fans have little 'emotional loyalty' (and often no connection) to those representing them on track, in a competition which is ultimately meaningless due to being so contrived week in week out... When guest riders were first introduced - I think offhand in 1956 - the 'Speedway Star' expressed concerns then that the system had to be closely monitored as any misuse would be damaging to the sport. The signs are their prophecy was indeed correct. And in those days guest riders were only used on a minimal basis not as appears to be the case nowadays as the backbone of a club being able to track a team for league and cup competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I am firmly in the "it's so much better on TV" camp. I prefer the availability of the replay and the opportunity to listen to ( and sometimes disregard) the experts opinion. Sky have done a remarkable job and the GP coverage is fantastic. They make the product appear much better than it is in real life and when you get to the stadium it is all a bit too flat and empty. And it often comes across as amateurish in the stadium and is very stop start with any building excitement washed away by empty delays and the interval - all too often. Now it's quite a while since I went to a meeting that was also on Sky but as I recall the delays during such meetings are as bad if not worse than non televised meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Coventry run in 2017. Sharing with Leicester while Brandon is sorted out... http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.31780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Coventry run in 2017. Sharing with Leicester while Brandon is sorted out... http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.31780 Rather ironic considering it was the then Promotion at Coventry that caused the closure of Blackbird Road back in 1983! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Rather ironic considering it was the then Promotion at Coventry that caused the closure of Blackbird Road back in 1983! Rather ironic considering it was the then Promotion at Coventry that caused the closure of Blackbird Road back in 1983! I hope you're not going to stir all this up again. It happened over 30 years ago and nothing at all to do with any promotions at Coventry since then but Midland Sports Stadiums, of which Charles Ochiltree was only ONE member. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I hope you're not going to stir all this up again. It happened over 30 years ago and nothing at all to do with any promotions at Coventry since then but Midland Sports Stadiums, of which Charles Ochiltree was only ONE member. I find people in Sport in general have long memories. I've never liked Coventry or Jimmy Hiil since they contrived a late (about 15 minutes) start in a relegation battle in which Sunderland were involved (as usual) Sunderland's game finished at the proper time and Coventry, needing only a point played pass ball for the last 15 minutes or so in order that they got the point they needed. Bastards!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I find people in Sport in general have long memories. I've never liked Coventry or Jimmy Hiil since they contrived a late (about 15 minutes) start in a relegation battle in which Sunderland were involved (as usual) Sunderland's game finished at the proper time and Coventry, needing only a point played pass ball for the last 15 minutes or so in order that they got the point they needed. Bastards!!! ...and I'm sure that Martin Rogers hasn't fond memories from back then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well at least people didn't think this way when a German rider(Smolinski) signed for Coventry.......If we always hark back,we never move forward 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well at least people didn't think this way when a German rider(Smolinski) signed for Coventry.......If we always hark back,we never move forward I liked Smolinski. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Well at least people didn't think this way when a German rider(Smolinski) signed for Coventry.......If we always hark back,we never move forward It's by 'harking back' that we are able to move forward...learning from the past and mistakes made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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