Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, iris123 said: How did a novice rider manage to get a deal alongside people who were legends in their sport like Keegan and Cooper otherwise? His team behind him did a great marketing job to get him that sponsorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, iris123 said: How did a novice rider manage to get a deal alongside people who were legends in their sport like Keegan and Cooper otherwise? HE wasn't a novice. Tony had been riding for years as a kid and by the time he made his Brutish debut for Reading was quite accomplished. Before the crash at Coventry that ended his career he also had a fine record on the continent at grass track events, etc. Would he have been as good as his dad... unlikely, but that bar was set extremely high. But he had a lot of talent and would have gone far. Edited July 31, 2018 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 hours ago, iris123 said: How did a novice rider manage to get a deal alongside people who were legends in their sport like Keegan and Cooper otherwise? BECAUSE they were sponsored by Faberge, Keegan played for Southampton (where the Briggs had their home) and Barry was a household name. It wasn't difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: BECAUSE they were sponsored by Faberge, Keegan played for Southampton (where the Briggs had their home) and Barry was a household name. It wasn't difficult. Which is exactly the point being made.Without his father he wouldn’t have got the breaks he did.A 5 point rider wouldn’t be signing deals that Keegan and Cooper were.Keegan at Scunthorpe wouldn’t be signing those deals either....., Only recently watched a programme about Faberge and how the company went downhill and were selling all sorts of cheap and cheerful products i.e aftershave etc and a few years ago a consortium of rich buggers brought all the rights up and are now trying to get the name back to what it was 100 years ago Edited July 31, 2018 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 WHAT"S wrong with using your father's name? Ultimately it would have been down to Tony's talent, Barry couldn't ride the bike for him, and as someone who has known him since he was a toddler I have no doubt he would have become a top notch rider. His biggest problem was gating but that would have improved. Incidentally, he still rides motocross bikes for fun in Poland and the US. He is very much a chip off the old block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: WHAT"S wrong with using your father's name? Ultimately it would have been down to Tony's talent, Barry couldn't ride the bike for him, and as someone who has known him since he was a toddler I have no doubt he would have become a top notch rider. His biggest problem was gating but that would have improved. Incidentally, he still rides motocross bikes for fun in Poland and the US. He is very much a chip off the old block. Phil,try following the convo.Nobody is saying it is wrong.Some are saying that is how he got the breaks.That is all.If he was Joe Smith with no history in the sport and was on a 5 pt average,would he have got the breaks and the Faberge sponsorship?That is what is being debated.Nothing about right or wrong.There is no moral judgement being dished out,just a sporting debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, iris123 said: Phil,try following the convo.Nobody is saying it is wrong.Some are saying that is how he got the breaks.That is all.If he was Joe Smith with no history in the sport and was on a 5 pt average,would he have got the breaks and the Faberge sponsorship?That is what is being debated.Nothing about right or wrong.There is no moral judgement being dished out,just a sporting debate. HE might not have got the Faberge deal but he would certainly have got a team place at Reading. That was on his ability and potential which was already well known. In fact, several clubs were chasing him but Dave Lanning knew a good rider when he saw one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) I was abused and used by Barry and Tony Briggs between the dates 5th March 1987 to 10th May 1987....they're a complete and utter pair of spanners!... JP Kirkham Edited August 16, 2018 by slateweaverjem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) ....hey! Briggo, Tony ..you can't go swapping humans for bags of diamonds...it's against the law...sport! JP Kirkham Edited November 2, 2018 by slateweaverjem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 8:00 PM, slateweaverjem said: ....hey! Briggo, Tony ..you can't go swapping humans for bags of diamonds...it's against the law...sport! JP Kirkham could you explain that please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) On 11/13/2018 at 7:10 PM, djr said: could you explain that please ? not really, it's a very long story djr..of how I was screwed over big time and sold down the river, 1987..the Lofa river... JP. Kirkham Edited December 3, 2018 by slateweaverjem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 5:23 PM, slateweaverjem said: not really, it's a very long story djr..of how I was screwed over big time and sold down the river, 1987..the Lofa river... JP. Kirkham but if you send me your address djr I will post you a copy of the book.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) lQQk Briggo, Tony, don't know how to get through to you guys..tried endless counts to mmxevents@yahoo.com ..not a dickie bird.. Just to remind you that you still owe me $75 last weeks Liberian pay May 10th, 1987 for a job well done.. yet you dumped me off on Gurly street penniless..where I was forced to eat a poison last supper in Julias Bar...no thanks to you pair of spanners...I walked it... All the way home.. it is just not cricket boys.. JP Kirkham Edited May 19, 2019 by slateweaverjem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slateweaverjem Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 7/24/2018 at 8:52 PM, slateweaverjem said: and secondly the guy from down the Mental Elf said, "write it all down", so I did and called it, "Royal Welsh Gold and the Liberian Diamond Connection stitch up"... get it on www.amazon.co.uk / .com or at www.lulu.com a real steal of a major deal at £5.99 ....JK 09/10/2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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