New Science Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 16 nights x 12000 = 192000 for the year which wouldn't be close to Speedways annual crowds. The point that you can't compare something that runs weekly throughout the country with something that happens once or twice a year locally is very important in my opinion. I can go and watch a good standard of darts (probably equal to PL Speedway) in my local for free and most certainly won't get trampled in the rush to find a viewing point. Don't forget the 66 thousand tickets sold for the recent world championships. Its probably fair to say that over 250 thousand tickets for PDC darts were sold in this country this year. They could sell more, most venues are sold out and next years World championship is anticipated to be staged at a bigger hall at the current venue.These tickets will cost 25 quid bottom price going up to 60 quid for the finals where as, most on here are calling for speedway to be a 10 pound sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Don't forget the 66 thousand tickets sold for the recent world championships. Its probably fair to say that over 250 thousand tickets for PDC darts were sold in this country this year. They could sell more, most venues are sold out and next years World championship is anticipated to be staged at a bigger hall at the current venue.These tickets will cost 25 quid bottom price going up to 60 quid for the finals where as, most on here are calling for speedway to be a 10 pound sport Let's not forget also, you're effectively paying to go watch tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 If your walking down a street and you see a cardboard box you walk past it , if you see the same cardboard box with 50 people round it you stop to have a look , as Guy Martin says "crowd creates a crowd creates a crowd creates a crowd " 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 And don't forget how expensive darts is to compete.... You need at least 1 set of darts, a spare set of stems and a couple of packs of flights, oh, and a piece of chalk.... Thick end of £75!!!! And the noise!! And finding somewhere to practise, and all those trick dartboards, you know, the tiny slick ones, and then you've got the large ones abroard! Then you need a fully ply lined van, a state of the art workshop, a couple of mechanics, and all that safelty wear, trainers or shoes, big sized shirt.... The costs are astronomical to compete in darts, and then the injuries, since the flights regs were changed, there's so many more serious accidents in darts..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Regarding Barry Hearn, my son does some coaching work for Leyton Orient and he assures me that every single member of staff off the pitch would have him back tomorrow over the Italian guy that now owns the club. Regarding the concept of a high profile mogul coming in and revamping the sport, I believe it's never going to happen for one simple reason. The people currently running and owning the clubs are not interested in the bigger picture. Most of them seem content to just scrape an existence from season to season. Short of an extremely rich person literally buying them all out, it's a non starter of an idea; and anyone that rich is probably not going to throw that amount of money away to own a dying sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Shortly before Christmas, my local paper, the Huddersfield Examiner, carried an advert on the front page advertising a stock car meeting at the Belle Vue dog track. This ad was in the form of a long strip stretching the width of the paper and covering about a fifth or so of the entire front page in a newspaper advertising an event that wasn't even happening in the same town/city. Perhaps speedway just needs to similarly start banging the drum with more basic tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 If your walking down a street and you see a cardboard box you walk past it , if you see the same cardboard box with 50 people round it you stop to have a look , as Guy Martin says "crowd creates a crowd creates a crowd creates a crowd " It really is that simple. And yet it's a concept that for 17 years has passed speedway by as they broadcast meetings in front of empty stadia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 It really is that simple. And yet it's a concept that for 17 years has passed speedway by as they broadcast meetings in front of empty stadia. once they get them in that's where the Bspa really need up their game and do their bit because if they just find out it just a cardboard box with nothing in it the will walk away again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The biggest advantage darts and snooker have over speedway is they aren't affected by the weather. The mere threat of rain is enough to decimate the crowd at most meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The biggest advantage darts and snooker have over speedway is they aren't affected by the weather. The mere threat of rain is enough to decimate the crowd at most meetings. Makes you wonder how the ECB sell every ticket for every day of an Ashes series in England 9 months in advance at 80 pound a pop when the weather in England in the summer is so bad. Blaming the weather for the decline of speedway in Britain is lame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Makes you wonder how the ECB sell every ticket for every day of an Ashes series in England 9 months in advance at 80 pound a pop when the weather in England in the summer is so bad. Blaming the weather for the decline of speedway in Britain is lame. A test match takes place over 7 hours per day, so you'll usually get some play unless you're really unlucky. More to the point, the cricket authorities have invested a fortune in new drainage, hover covers and supersoppers that provide the best chances of getting play back on after it has rained. What has speedway done over the years to mitigate the effects of rain? This is quite aside from the fact that most people go to one test per year, whereas most speedway tracks runs every week or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Has anybody on here been to one of the darts events? It's basically a big stag do. Get everybody tanked up, get them singing, make it look like a great atmosphere, but conveniently leave out the drunken behaviour and fighting going on. How many speedway fans would want meetings turned into glorified piss-ups? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 A test match takes place over 7 hours per day, so you'll usually get some play unless you're really unlucky. More to the point, the cricket authorities have invested a fortune in new drainage, hover covers and supersoppers that provide the best chances of getting play back on after it has rained. What has speedway done over the years to mitigate the effects of rain? This is quite aside from the fact that most people go to one test per year, whereas most speedway tracks runs every week or so. Not so much the cricket pitches/speedway tracks themselves, it's the attitude of the competitors who perform on them......! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sounds a bit like the gp series? How does your vision translate to Wolverhampton on a Monday night? Doesn't that already happen? Watch the swc final from Belle Vue on TV then go to wolverhampton and watch the same riders wobbling all over the place and falling off. really not quite sure where you have seen that happen but anyway is not necessarily just what happens in the 15 heats , it's the whole experience from the time you enter a stadium to the time you leave that matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The biggest advantage darts and snooker have over speedway is they aren't affected by the weather. The mere threat of rain is enough to decimate the crowd at most meetings. Rain covers would stop a majority of meetings being called off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 ive been to the darts a couple of times,never again. I enjoy it on tv but live IS just a big p up. animals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Rain covers would stop a majority of meetings being called off They've been tried but proved unsuccessful (leakage between the covers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The biggest advantage darts and snooker have over speedway is they aren't affected by the weather. The mere threat of rain is enough to decimate the crowd at most meetings. and of course you can put your coat on and pop down the pub while the Mrs watches soaps for a game of darts , so natural inquisitiveness will make you interested in watching people who are much better at playing , another thing that attracts people to watch Pub games and games for the elderly like golf and bowls , is the ludicrous prize money , offer 1 mill for the winner of a speedway meeting and interest will increase massively 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 They've been tried but proved unsuccessful (leakage between the covers). They could use some tape to stop the leakage lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 They could use some tape to stop the leakage lol I remember attending the World Final at Vojens in 1988 and Olsen assured the crowd that the meeting would go ahead (it did despite repeated showers...but that's Vojens) because he intended utilising covers which was just a publicity ploy...never happened. Also I recall Eric Boocock saying that they were used for a BLRC one year but proved ineffective as the track proved to be patchy due to leakages and water seeping underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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