Garry1603 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Does anyone think that TV coverage helps or hinders the sport ? I have to say that it rekindled my interest in the sport about 15 years ago after being a regular at Belle Vue in the 70s and 80s. I eventually started to go again maybe half a dozen times a season and have been to Cardiff three times. So for a former fan I think it's a great reminder of just how good the sport can be (and the Sky coverage was generally excellent), but I'm not sure that it would attract new fans necessarily. The rules are too complex for a non fan to comprehend and the amount (and concept) of guest riders must make the sport look very amateurish I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Does anyone think that TV coverage helps or hinders the sport ?it helps but it's not used to its full potential 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Does anyone think that TV coverage helps or hinders the sport ? To my mind - it certainly doesn't help Speedway. It should help, but it seems certain people in authority in Speedway seem happy just to see the Sport on Television and take the money handed over by the Television Companies. The presence of Speedway on the Television should be augmented by a massive push to actually PROMOTE the Sport. Television Advertising could be a start - expensive - yes - but you have to speculate to accumulate. I understand from friends and from some other Posters on this Forum that Social Media could be used much more advantageously and effectively than it is now. A lot of folk will probably stay at home to watch the Meeting if it is on the Television thus depriving Tracks of valuable income. How that is offset against the Television money - I wouldn't know. Apart from the folk staying away and watching it on Television, as I said earlier - I can't see how being on the Television hinders Speedway in any way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Pay to view TV is probably not the best medium to promote speedway as the audience is primarily focussed on football and not motor sports. Speedway is a contactish sport and to be enjoyed it is best watched live. The smell, noise, atmosphere and banter makes for a memorable night. TV is just being used as a 'cash cow' and not a very good one at that. There are a lot of embedded opinions and agenda's at the top of British Speedway and they need to change as the survival of speedway is becoming critical. On a positive note Grasstrack is doing very well particularly in the Midlands Centre and manages to put on wonderful entertainment why is this so when speedway is stuggling so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Pay to view TV is probably not the best medium to promote speedway as the audience is primarily focussed on football and not motor sports. Speedway is a contactish sport and to be enjoyed it is best watched live. The smell, noise, atmosphere and banter makes for a memorable night. TV is just being used as a 'cash cow' and not a very good one at that. There are a lot of embedded opinions and agenda's at the top of British Speedway and they need to change as the survival of speedway is becoming critical. On a positive note Grasstrack is doing very well particularly in the Midlands Centre and manages to put on wonderful entertainment why is this so when speedway is stuggling so much? I did no know that regarding Grasstrack. Very interesting. As for the question you pose regarding Speedway - I'm afraid I have no answer for you. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Not convinced grass track is doing well in comparison to the 70s any more than speedway is. A few well attended meetings but equally meetings are being cancelled for lack of entries. I suspect you'd have to ride in every centre to get anywhere near the number of meetings you could get in the 70s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Does anyone think that TV coverage helps or hinders the sport ? There is already a topic on national media see; http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=83484 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Not convinced grass track is doing well in comparison to the 70s any more than speedway is. A few well attended meetings but equally meetings are being cancelled for lack of entries. I suspect you'd have to ride in every centre to get anywhere near the number of meetings you could get in the 70s I've attended a couple of grass tracks within the last couple of years and the attendance was poor on both occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 The strange thing to me, seems to be that TV live broadcasts present speedway in the best possible light, in theory whetting people's appetite to go and have a look at a local track. But that does not seem to be the case judging by falling attendances at many stadiums. I think the Sky matches should be £5 ( or even free ) and get the stadium full and hopefully more enticing to armchair fans. Several of the Sky matches last year showed that, apparently, speedway at the match - in the flesh - is not of interest to many people. In some cases it was "spot the fan". I am a big fan of speedway on TV and the excellent Sky and GP coverage does show the sport in it's best light. The why of how it does not pull in possible new fans is the puzzling part of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 The empty looking stadium for a tv match is the problem , I watch a polish match on a Sunday and see 17,000 zeilona gora fans buzzing and even before the bikes are on the frack I want to be there , a crowd attracts a crowd attracts a crowd ,for a tv match instead of sky paying the promotors a fee sky should take over the pay for that match and make it free to attend , get the place full and people will look in on tv and think that looks fun I want to go and experience some live speedway 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Pay to view TV is probably not the best medium to promote speedway as the audience is primarily focussed on football and not motor sports. Speedway is a contactish sport and to be enjoyed it is best watched live. The smell, noise, atmosphere and banter makes for a memorable night. TV is just being used as a 'cash cow' and not a very good one at that. There are a lot of embedded opinions and agenda's at the top of British Speedway and they need to change as the survival of speedway is becoming critical. On a positive note Grasstrack is doing very well particularly in the Midlands Centre and manages to put on wonderful entertainment why is this so when speedway is stuggling so much? Grasstrack is on its knees apart from a couple of meetings a year. Edited February 20, 2017 by Sotonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Grasstrack has had a hard time but meetings are on the rise which are very well supported with healthy entries from Ledbury, Bewdley and Worcester Clubs and a contribution from Midshires . A lot can be learned from the format, costings, value for maoney and entertainment. It truly is a motorsport where as speedway has 'taken it's eye' off what it really is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 The empty looking stadium for a tv match is the problem , I watch a polish match on a Sunday and see 17,000 zeilona gora fans buzzing and even before the bikes are on the frack I want to be there , a crowd attracts a crowd attracts a crowd ,for a tv match instead of sky paying the promotors a fee sky should take over the pay for that match and make it free to attend , get the place full and people will look in on tv and think that looks fun I want to go and experience some live speedway Dean, the snag with that is, when the meetings are ran as a loss leader by the home promotion, Kelvin and Jonathan blab about the offer all night, and massage the fact that there's a "BIG" crowd in tonight, because the promotion have let everyone in for a £5'r, and put face painting on, and free flags on the seats, and banners up everywhere.... They need to detract from gobbing off about the special offer element, as when the 100 or so turn up off the back of what they saw on the telly box, will either, turn around at the turnstyles when they see the price, or give it a go, and never return, and tell all their mates not to go!!!!!! Get what I mean?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's not so much about "when" the decline in speedway started. It's now more about what point the decline is at as we start another season. With question marks or serious concerns over at least four Premiership clubs - Coventry, Leicester, Belle Vue and Swindon we could consider how much this is the "tip of the iceberg"? How many clubs in all three leagues are also on the financial edge and who would be dragged down if attendances continue to fall? It's no good always "looking on the bright side" when the emptying terraces say something else. Fingers crossed that speedway - the sport I love most - does reach it's 2028 Centenary in rude good health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's not so much about "when" the decline in speedway started. It's now more about what point the decline is at as we start another season. With question marks or serious concerns over at least four Premiership clubs - Coventry, Leicester, Belle Vue and Swindon we could consider how much this is the "tip of the iceberg"? How many clubs in all three leagues are also on the financial edge and who would be dragged down if attendances continue to fall? It's no good always "looking on the bright side" when the emptying terraces say something else. Fingers crossed that speedway - the sport I love most - does reach it's 2028 Centenary in rude good health. Let's hope so wtg28. There are grounds for optimism with Neil Vatcher's youngsters in Training. I really hope that one or two of those can come through. We need more than that though to get rid of the dreadful 'hat trick': Double Up, Double Down and Double Points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Has anyone ever thought of, or invented a 'speedway simulator',,, similar to those 'bucking bulls', something like what you see in clubs, or holiday ? get them at tracks and have fans go on them for all those that imagine just how easy it looks,,, it might get some folk in. Edited February 21, 2017 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Has anyone ever thought of, or invented a 'speedway simulator',,, similar to those 'bucking bulls', something like what you see in clubs, or holiday ? get them at tracks and have fans go on them for all those that imagine just how easy it looks,,, it might get some folk in. I might even come along and have a go.......... :shock: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I might even come along and have a go.......... :shock: age restrictions may apply, unless you sign the waiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Let's hope so wtg28. There are grounds for optimism with Neil Vatcher's youngsters in Training. I really hope that one or two of those can come through. We need more than that though to get rid of the dreadful 'hat trick': Double Up, Double Down and Double Points. How is the progression of youngsters going to get rid of double points ? I might even come along and have a go.......... :shock: That would make a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Has anyone ever thought of, or invented a 'speedway simulator',,, similar to those 'bucking bulls', something like what you see in clubs, or holiday ? get them at tracks and have fans go on them for all those that imagine just how easy it looks,,, it might get some folk in. There has been a 'beat the gate' bike at Foxhall a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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