Little Thumper Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I see from reading MCN that reigning Moto GP World Champion, Marc Marquez, has qualified quickest for tonight's race. I quite like the look of this flat track stuff. Do they ever run it on speedway tracks and if not, why not? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) There has been more BSF comment re the meeting at Grasstrack, Sidecar, Short Track and Cycle Speedway Europe's Big Indoor Dirt/flat Track Event Edited December 17, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 There has been more BSF comment re the meeting at Grasstrack, Sidecar, Short Track and Cycle Speedway Europe's Big Indoor Dirt/flat Track Event Thanks, gustix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 i think the Spanish would go crazy for speedway if it was presented to them properly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 This year there was flat track racing at Rye House, Peterborough and Kings Lynn as well as a trotting track in Ammanford, Wales and Greenfields Lincs. 2017 fixtures should be out soon, I know there will be an event at the MCN show at Peterborough and Dirt Quake at Kings Lynn for sure. I think the Spanish go to the superprestigio because of the road racers mainly, not so sure they would be that keen on Speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 This year there was flat track racing at Rye House, Peterborough and Kings Lynn as well as a trotting track in Ammanford, Wales and Greenfields Lincs. 2017 fixtures should be out soon, I know there will be an event at the MCN show at Peterborough and Dirt Quake at Kings Lynn for sure. I think the Spanish go to the superprestigio because of the road racers mainly, not so sure they would be that keen on Speedway. Vince, what makes a good venue for flat track? Would any speedway track be o.k.? Do they get many entries? Yes, the Spanish love their road racing and a lot of the GP boys do a bit of MXing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I see Freddie Lindgren was in last years final. A very poor mans speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I see Freddie Lindgren was in last years final. A very poor mans speedway. But they do seem to get a decent track down that doesn't break up like indoor speedway meetings that i have seen.As a one-off it is quite exciting,but overtaking is pretty tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Morton and Gordon had agreed to have 5 flat track meetings at the NSS this winter. But that went to pop now obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 If I recall Cowley Stadium held a round of the Flat Track Championship back in 2012...the last time motorbikes took to the track there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Vince, what makes a good venue for flat track? Would any speedway track be o.k.? Do they get many entries? Yes, the Spanish love their road racing and a lot of the GP boys do a bit of MXing. Thanks Vince, what makes a good venue for flat track? Would any speedway track be o.k.? Do they get many entries? Yes, the Spanish love their road racing and a lot of the GP boys do a bit of MXing. Thanks Asda car park would be fine if you could get permission , nothing special about it whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Vince, what makes a good venue for flat track? Would any speedway track be o.k.? Do they get many entries? Yes, the Spanish love their road racing and a lot of the GP boys do a bit of MXing. Thanks Asda car park would be fine if you could get permission , nothing special about it whatsoever I wonder whose supermarket car park it was for this event? It doesn't look like an Asda one to me! Could be a Sainsbury I suppose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUT0wB2h_3o Edited December 17, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I wonder whose supermarket car park it was for this event? It doesn't look like an Asda one to me! Could be a Sainsbury I suppose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUT0wB2h_3o American so it's Walmart , oh no hang on that's too upmarket for flat track , K mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I wonder whose supermarket car park it was for this event? It doesn't look like an Asda one to me! Could be a Sainsbury I suppose. Indeed...that was definitely not a supermarket car park, it was a small, bumpy track in the grounds of the Circuit of the Americas where the flat track boys played their part as a little side show to the MotoGP weekend. Quite an appropriate choice of video today after the US hope was made to look silly in his own sport by the road racing stars Marc Marquez and Toni Elias Edited December 18, 2016 by HenryW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Details from the meeting in Barcelona: http://amaproracing.com/flat-track/news/view/64734 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Details from the meeting in Barcelona: http://amaproracing.com/flat-track/news/view/64734 That Marc Marquez is one talented rider! Why couldn't flat track racing be a regular thing at speedway tracks, as I am sure it could be quite a good attraction? More people, particularly, young uns, identify with motocross type bikes than they do with speedway machines. Quite a lot of youngsters ride or have ridden off roaders. Very few will have ridden a speedway bike. And I would have thought that the sport would be a lot more accessible to potential competitors as there are a lot more MX bikes about than speedway bikes. Speedway has got to expand it's portfolio otherwise it doesn't have much of a future, methinks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) That Marc Marquez is one talented rider! Why couldn't flat track racing be a regular thing at speedway tracks, as I am sure it could be quite a good attraction? More people, particularly, young uns, identify with motocross type bikes than they do with speedway machines. Quite a lot of youngsters ride or have ridden off roaders. Very few will have ridden a speedway bike. And I would have thought that the sport would be a lot more accessible to potential competitors as there are a lot more MX bikes about than speedway bikes. Speedway has got to expand it's portfolio otherwise it doesn't have much of a future, methinks. I think a major problem is, as has been pointed out several times by speedibee, there simply are not enough suitable car parks available. Edited December 18, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Vince, what makes a good venue for flat track? Would any speedway track be o.k.? Do they get many entries? Yes, the Spanish love their road racing and a lot of the GP boys do a bit of MXing. Thanks In my opinion any track that makes a bit of dirt but any Speedway track works. Record entries during 2016 with well over 100 riders at meetings with some riding in more than one group. The classes are now Pro (expert), Restricted (intermediate) and Rookie (Novice) on mostly DTX bikes which are the converted MotoX bikes. Vintage, Thunderbikes (which can be anything from specialist flat track 'framers' to converted road bikes), Minibikes and then kids classes. 12 riders to a race starting off 3 rows in the UK series can make for some very good racing. The sport is really taking off now with a lot of Road Racers realising how the top boys have been using it as training for years, at it's best it's great racing, at times it's follow the leader, like all motorsport. Ignore Speedibee, he's probably not seen a meeting for some time and the standard has risen unbelievably the past few years. He has a real bee in his bonnet about flat track, no idea why but most of his comments proves he knows very little about it. He assures us it is really easy to ride but despite repeated offers to ride my bike doesn't want to show us. In fact like most motor racing it is really easy to do but incredibly difficult to do very well. The Road Racers did show the top Flat track boys the way home last night but those lads are probably on a flat track bike more than the specialists themselves, many have their own track or one they use daily and Marquez will win at any motorcycle event he puts some effort into. It also has to be said that they run on different size wheels and completely different tyres to the ones used normally in flat track. Put them on a normal sized track on flat track tyres and it wouldn't be so easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Indeed...that was definitely not a supermarket car park, it was a small, bumpy track in the grounds of the Circuit of the Americas where the flat track boys played their part as a little side show to the MotoGP weekend. Quite an appropriate choice of video today after the US hope was made to look silly in his own sport by the road racing stars Marc Marquez and Toni Elias Reading the reports, it seems tyre choice was critical for the final, the American, Brad Baker, made the wrong choice, Elias managed at the last minute to get the tyre supplier to open his truck and put on a new tyre, and Marquez....well he is good but humble enough to say he was playing catch up this year on Baker and of course Marquez has a good pit crew backing him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 In my opinion any track that makes a bit of dirt but any Speedway track works. Record entries during 2016 with well over 100 riders at meetings with some riding in more than one group. The classes are now Pro (expert), Restricted (intermediate) and Rookie (Novice) on mostly DTX bikes which are the converted MotoX bikes. Vintage, Thunderbikes (which can be anything from specialist flat track 'framers' to converted road bikes), Minibikes and then kids classes. 12 riders to a race starting off 3 rows in the UK series can make for some very good racing. The sport is really taking off now with a lot of Road Racers realising how the top boys have been using it as training for years, at it's best it's great racing, at times it's follow the leader, like all motorsport. Ignore Speedibee, he's probably not seen a meeting for some time and the standard has risen unbelievably the past few years. He has a real bee in his bonnet about flat track, no idea why but most of his comments proves he knows very little about it. He assures us it is really easy to ride but despite repeated offers to ride my bike doesn't want to show us. In fact like most motor racing it is really easy to do but incredibly difficult to do very well. The Road Racers did show the top Flat track boys the way home last night but those lads are probably on a flat track bike more than the specialists themselves, many have their own track or one they use daily and Marquez will win at any motorcycle event he puts some effort into. It also has to be said that they run on different size wheels and completely different tyres to the ones used normally in flat track. Put them on a normal sized track on flat track tyres and it wouldn't be so easy. A great and informative Post Vince. I really enjoyed reading it and look forward to hearing more in regard to the continuing UK development of Flat Track racing. Oh, by-the-by, I don't really take any notice of comments on the formula from speedibee. I think your analysis of his attitude says all we need to know about his views on Flat Track racing. By the way, I am now off to Tesco! Our local branch has a very large car park. Joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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