poolebolton Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Let's just clarify all the problems within the Premiership at the moment club by club, and just discuss in one overall forum. Belle Vue= Have huge financial problems as we all know and look like they will struggle this season even if they have a team. Coventry= Well with the recent news do they have a stadium or not all looks a bit of a pickle King's Lynn= Not to many problems, just there owner seems more bothered in other clubs than the one he actually owns. Leicester= Financial problems which hopefully will all be sorted by the weekend, things are starting to look on the up. Poole= We don't have a main team sponsor. I imagine we have had offers just Mr Ford will want six figures to buy more assets (Max Fricke, watch this space) Rye House= Looks pretty good, but have spent a lot of money and well it's speedway and you never know. Seem to have owners who don't know to much about speedway from some of the things i have read. Somerset= Built within there limits which is fine just seem very weak and will not want to be relegated. BUT once again on the face of things it looks very good. Swindon= Will this stadium be ready or not??? Who knows, In my honest opinion the NSS should be in Swindon not in Manchester far more accessible for the fans from the UK. Wolves= They seem pretty good actually and of all the teams right now seem the most secure. Wolves, Rye and Somerset all look good. Poole will be in best shape once they have a sponsor and Kings Lynn once Buster announces on Friday. Leicester seem like they are going to run. Swindon just need this Stadium to get going and from last couple of pictures it looks like its on its way. BV and Coventry well who knows seem like its good news one minute bad news the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 , In my honest opinion the NSS should be in Swindon not in Manchester far more accessible for the fans from the UK. But no one was putting forward the money to fulfill your wishes. It was forthcoming in Manchester, who would say no to an offer like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 But no one was putting forward the money to fulfill your wishes. It was forthcoming in Manchester, who would say no to an offer like that. for all the money being put forward in Manchester was it really worth it ? It bankrupted the promotion and the club . Whoever runs the Aces will the stadium ever break even let alone make a £1 or 2 I have my doubts on that one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Well reading this depressing garbage should soon dampen anyone's spirits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 'King's Lynn's owner seems more bothered about other clubs than the one he actually owns'. That's called being the BSPA's top man and having to clear up the mess of two failed promotions. If only he had somebody like Rob Lyon to look after his own club in his absence..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 What a sorryfull state our sport is in. A lot of us has been saying this for some time, but the BSPA seemed reluctant to make those changes needed to survive. But at last they now recognise the dire straight's the sport is in and hopefully we can now turn the corner. The sport could not continue to pay our these huge fees for top riders, our numbers won't allow that to happen. But I see no reason why we cant have competitive racing that we can afford, and COULD interest new fans.. After all they don't know who NKI is...... onwards and upwards...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) I live in windon but Manchester is a central location for all British fans. The new Abbey should be ready in June. Edited December 13, 2016 by Alfred Stopcock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I live in windon but Manchester is a central location for all British fans. The new Abbey should be ready in June. Manchester is easy to travel for riders but for Fans no. The two largest supported clubs in UK are Poole and Swindon followed by Coventry and Wolves. And it is much closer to London which means riders could travel to it easy and if they were driving with Vans then it is a shorter drive and also closer to Cardiff would have made more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 How can the NSS be in Swindon when we are having to reduce to a small stadium in the corner of a car park so that houses can be built? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Have to agree with you Gordon, Damn shame Buster doesn't have Rob Lyon as promoter at King's Lynn. thought he was co promotor since changes there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 thought he was co promotor since changes there ? Rob was Co-promoter but from 2017 (while Buster is BSPA Chairman at least) will run King's Lynn Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The two largest supported clubs in UK are Poole and Swindon followed by Coventry and Wolves. Where does that information come from if clubs don't publish attendance figures ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Why do you think Belle Vue will struggle this year ? , not announced the line up yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 I have always had this perception, that if the specticle is good enough the fans will come. Obviously with a winning team, they are a bigger draw than one that is losing alll the time. Although there can only be one winner at the end, there can be many winners along the way. Attending speedway at the NSS has got to be a winner, regardless of the team. As long as people feel entertained and not ripped off, the support will be there. Because there is not a better venue in the whole of the country, you have a massive advantage in Manchester. Treat the fans right and the rest will follow. The actual members of the team is not important at this point, all you want is riders that appreciates the superb race track and who prepared to give 100% to the cause..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Would have thought Belle Vue and Poole were the best supported clubs last season. Swindon will be in top 3 next year. Would have thought Belle Vue and Poole were the best supported clubs last season. Swindon will be in top 3 next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Let's just clarify all the problems within the Premiership at the moment club by club, and just discuss in one overall forum. Belle Vue= Have huge financial problems as we all know and look like they will struggle this season even if they have a team. Coventry= Well with the recent news do they have a stadium or not all looks a bit of a pickle King's Lynn= Not to many problems, just there owner seems more bothered in other clubs than the one he actually owns. Leicester= Financial problems which hopefully will all be sorted by the weekend, things are starting to look on the up. Poole= We don't have a main team sponsor. I imagine we have had offers just Mr Ford will want six figures to buy more assets (Max Fricke, watch this space) Rye House= Looks pretty good, but have spent a lot of money and well it's speedway and you never know. Seem to have owners who don't know to much about speedway from some of the things i have read. Somerset= Built within there limits which is fine just seem very weak and will not want to be relegated. BUT once again on the face of things it looks very good. Swindon= Will this stadium be ready or not??? Who knows, In my honest opinion the NSS should be in Swindon not in Manchester far more accessible for the fans from the UK. Wolves= They seem pretty good actually and of all the teams right now seem the most secure. Wolves, Rye and Somerset all look good. Poole will be in best shape once they have a sponsor and Kings Lynn once Buster announces on Friday. Leicester seem like they are going to run. Swindon just need this Stadium to get going and from last couple of pictures it looks like its on its way. BV and Coventry well who knows seem like its good news one minute bad news the next. How on earth would a national speedway stadium in Swindon be more accessible to fans ? Yes the NSS was built for the belle Vue aces but also to attract FIM world championship meetings , British finals etc In that respect I'd have thought Manchester was An ideal location for speedway fans across the country, Edited December 14, 2016 by WestGorton1884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 How on earth would a national speedway stadium in Swindon be more accessible to fans ? Yes the NSS was built for the belle Vue aces but also to attract FIM world championship meetings , British finals etc In that respect I'd have thought Manchester was An ideal location for speedway fans across the country, Rains more just to start with. Its much closer drive from all major teams to Swindon than Manchester and you can also attract london fans easier. More people can get to Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 I have always had this perception, that if the specticle is good enough the fans will come. Obviously with a winning team, they are a bigger draw than one that is losing alll the time. Although there can only be one winner at the end, there can be many winners along the way. Attending speedway at the NSS has got to be a winner, regardless of the team. As long as people feel entertained and not ripped off, the support will be there. Because there is not a better venue in the whole of the country, you have a massive advantage in Manchester. Treat the fans right and the rest will follow. The actual members of the team is not important at this point, all you want is riders that appreciates the superb race track and who prepared to give 100% to the cause..... Sorry GRW i have to disagree with you i feel that you do need a competitive team for the fans to support.The only way you will get great racing is if you have a team that is capable of matching the opposing team on the track. if you sign a poor team the racing will be poor because you will be getting battered in most of the race. Only off what i have read on here but Kings lynn had a poor season last year on track and there were a lot more digruntled fans on here than the year before when you were in the running for the play offs.I dont know but i am asking you with having a poor season last year did your gates fall ?.I think that you have more chance of fans turning up every week if you have a decent team a poor team will lead to fans support dropping off as the season goes along.So i m o you can have the best race track in the world but if the riders on it are not evenly matched most of the racing will be poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Last season Belle Vue had both, a top 4 team and the 'best' track in the UK, but still not enough supporters came to pay the riders Edited December 14, 2016 by MARK246 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 for all the money being put forward in Manchester was it really worth it ? It bankrupted the promotion and the club . Whoever runs the Aces will the stadium ever break even let alone make a £1 or 2 I have my doubts on that one . The stadium didn't bankrupt them. They were paying no rent. They paid no rent, they didn't pay the riders properly. Where has the money gone? Were the crowds that low? Of course they weren't. Someone, somewhere has the money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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