Conkers Posted March 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Me You'll be telling me next that the Pope is a Catholic Jesper! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Roelof Thijs Bokaal Friday 31.3.17, Heerenveen Line up: Simon Reitsma NL Bart Schaap NL Jimmy Tuinstra NL Jasper Iwema NL Luca Bauer Germany Tobias Busch Germany Sebastian Gegenbauer Germany Franz Mayerbüchler jr Germany Reinhard Greisel Germany Tomi Tani Finland Rami Systä Finland Jo Saetre Norway Charly Ebner Austria Erwin Schuster Austria Eduard Krysov Russia Andrej Diviš Czech Rep Lukáš Hutla Czech Rep Lukáš Volejník Czech Rep Viktor Svensson Sweden Martin Haarahiltunen Sweden Andreas Westlund Sweden Jonas Andersson Sweden Mikael Flodin Sweden Ronny Häring Switzerland Interesting line up, especially since Krysov is riding. Be good to see Tobi Busch ride again, what he lacks in experience he makes up for in enthusiasm! Rami Systä has had to drop out of the meeting. He will be replaced by British Rider Rob Irvine. Edited March 27, 2017 by Conkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Live update will be available here: http://live.baansportfansite.nl/event/205/roelof-thijs-bokaal-heerenveen.html We will also provide Periscope livestream again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Draw for Roelof Thijs Bokaal 31.3.17 Its the 24 heat GP KO Formula 1 Jimmy Tuinstra NL 2 Luca Bauer D replaced by Radek Hutla CZR 3 Ronny Häring CH 4 Rob Irving GB 5 Jonas Andersson S 6 Jasper Iwema NL 7 Erwin Schuster A 8 Reinhard Greisel D 9 Andreas Westlund S 10 Lukáš Volejník CzR replaced by David Lizak CzR 11 Bart Schaap NL 12 Franz Mayerbüchler D 13 Mikael Flodin S 14 Sebastian Gegenbauer D 15 Jo Saetre N 16 Simon Reitsma NL 17 Tobias Busch D 18 Tomi Tani SF 19 Lukáš Hutla CzR 20 Martin Haarahiltunen S 21 Charly Ebner A 22 Andrej Diviš CzR 23 Eduard Krysov Rus 24 Viktor Svensson S (winner 2016) Live update from the track - with minutes to go we get changes! Follow the meeting on http://live.baanspor...heerenveen.html Edited March 31, 2017 by Conkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted April 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Roelof Thijs Bokaal Result, Heerenveen, March 31 1. Eduard Krysov (Russia), 2. Martin Haarahiltunen (Sweden) 3. Charly Ebner (Austria) 4. Sebastian Gegenbauer (Germany) 5. Lukas Hutla (Czech Rep.) 6. Jonas Andersson (Sweden) 7. Franz Mayerbuchler (Germany) 8. Andreas Westlund (Sweden) 9/10. Tobias Busch (Germany, Tomi Tani (Finland) 11/12. Jasper Iwema (Netherlands), Bart Schaap (Netherlands) 13/14. Mikael Flodin (Sweden), Simon Reitsma (Netherlands), 15. Victor Svensson (Sweden) 16/17. Jo Saetre (Norway), Reinhard Greisel (Germany) 18/19. Radek Hutla (Czech Rep), Rob Irving (GB) 20/21. David Lizak (Czech Rep), Jimmy Tuinstra (Netherlands) 22. Erwin Schuster (Austria) Both Ronny Haring and Andrej Divis didn't take part, which is why the placings are a bit odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 ASTANA EXPO FIM ICE SPEEDWAY GLADIATORS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 5, HEERENVEEN, NETHERLANDS, SATURDAY & SUNDAY, APRIL 1-2 SATURDAY - ROUND 9 (Russia unless stated) Dmitri Koltakov 21 (15+3+3), Igor Kononov 19 (14+3+2), Dmitri Khomitsevich 16 (13+2+1), Dinar Valeev 11 (9+2+0), Danil Ivanov 11 (10+1), Franz Zorn (Austria) 10 (9+1), Harald Simon (Austria) 11 (10+fx), Stefan Svensson (Sweden) 9 (9+0), Niklas Svensson (Sweden) 7, Jan Klatovsky (Czech Rep.) 6, Gunther Bauer (Germany) 5, Ove Ledstrom (Sweden 5), Max Niedermaier (Germany) 3, Timo Kankunen (Finland) 2, Simon Reitsma (Netherlands) 1, Jasper Iwema (Netherlands - Res) 1, Hans Weber (Germany) 0, Bart Schaap (Netherlands - Res) 0 Semi Final 1: Koltakov, Valeev, Zorn, Simon (fx) Semi Final 2: Kononov, Khomitsevich, Ivanov, S. Svensson Final: Koltakov, Kononov, Khomitsevich, Valeev With Sunday's round to go, Koltakov has a 10 point lead in the standings over Kononov - 167 to 157. Dimon should clinch the title in his fourth ride on Sunday. He was unbeatable last night, so far ahead of the others. Only in the Final did Kononov trouble him for a lap and a half, before Dimon shot away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 ASTANA EXPO FIM ICE SPEEDWAY GLADIATORS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 5, HEERENVEEN, NETHERLANDS, SATURDAY & SUNDAY, APRIL 1-2 SUNDAY ROUND 10 Khomitsevich 16 (11+2+3), Valeev 15 (11+2+2), Ivanov 16 (12+3+1), Koltakov 18 (15+3+f), N. Svensson 9 (8+1), Zorn 9 (8+1), Kononov 13 (13+D), S. Svensson 10 (10+0), Simon 7, Bauer 5, Weber 4, Ledstrom 4, Klatovsky 4, Kankunen 3, Niedermaier 2, Reitsma 0, Iwema (res) 0 Semi Final 1: Koltakov, Khomitsevich, N. Svensson, S. Svensson Semi Final 2: Ivanov, Valeev, Zorn, Kononov (d) Final: Khomitsevich, Valeev, Ivanov, Koltakov (f) FINAL STANDINGS (*=Wildcard) Koltakov 185, Kononov 170, Khomitsevich 154, Valeev 135, Ivanov 106, Zorn 104, S. Svensson 78, G. Bauer 66, Simon 53, N. Svensson 49, Ledstrom 47, Niedermaier 43, Klatovsky 34, Weber 29, Krasnikov* 28, Olsen 20, Toloknov* 19, Kankunen 10, Cheblakov* 7, Reitsma* 1, L. Bauer* 1 Heerenveen will be staged next season on the 6-7-8th April. The rumour is that 2019 will be later again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 ASTANA EXPO FIM ICE SPEEDWAY GLADIATORS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 5, HEERENVEEN, NETHERLANDS, SATURDAY & SUNDAY, APRIL 1-2 SUNDAY ROUND 10 Khomitsevich 16 (11+2+3), Valeev 15 (11+2+2), Ivanov 16 (12+3+1), Koltakov 18 (15+3+f), N. Svensson 9 (8+1), Zorn 9 (8+1), Kononov 13 (13+D), S. Svensson 10 (10+0), Simon 7, Bauer 5, Weber 4, Ledstrom 4, Klatovsky 4, Kankunen 3, Niedermaier 2, Reitsma 0, Iwema (res) 0 Semi Final 1: Koltakov, Khomitsevich, N. Svensson, S. Svensson Semi Final 2: Ivanov, Valeev, Zorn, Kononov (d) Final: Khomitsevich, Valeev, Ivanov, Koltakov (f) FINAL STANDINGS (*=Wildcard) Koltakov 185, Kononov 170, Khomitsevich 154, Valeev 135, Ivanov 106, Zorn 104, S. Svensson 78, G. Bauer 66, Simon 53, N. Svensson 49, Ledstrom 47, Niedermaier 43, Klatovsky 34, Weber 29, Krasnikov* 28, Olsen 20, Toloknov* 19, Kankunen 10, Cheblakov* 7, Reitsma* 1, L. Bauer* 1 Heerenveen will be staged next season on the 6-7-8th April. The rumour is that 2019 will be later again! Some rumours for 2018: GP's: Krasnogorsk Togliatti Astana Berlin Inzell Heerenveen Teams: Shadrinsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Some rumours for 2018: GP's: Krasnogorsk Togliatti Astana Berlin Inzell Heerenveen Teams: Shadrinsk My information is Berlin is set for 1-4.3.18, with Inzell scheduled for 17-18.3.18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Hope they can fit some more GP's in between. Really annoying for the riders, especially the Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erinil1 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Hope they can fit some more GP's in between. Really annoying for the riders, especially the Russians. But where is it possible to find a host willing to take what I assume is a pretty high financial risk to host a GP weekend? And also where can you find a big enough fanbase/interest to host a GP when all the common western european hosts already have a competition? Edited April 4, 2017 by erinil1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 some FIM ice racing videos Togliatti Sharansk Almaty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hope they can fit some more GP's in between. Really annoying for the riders, especially the Russians. Lots of problems i think.Extending the Ice season into the speedway season is a problem for fans,British at least,where the season is well under way,but could cause clashes with the few riders who ride on ice and dirt.The Polish season is getting warmed up by then with training meetings and not sure the Polish clubs will understand one or two riders missing when they have contracts and should be in attendance in Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hope they can fit some more GP's in between. Really annoying for the riders, especially the Russians. Unfortunately, I just don't think there is enough spectator interest, or venues willing to pay for the cost of a GP weekend. The ice speedway scene sadly appears to become smaller with each year that passes. The only way that I can see the trend being broken is for a couple of non-Russian riders, to break through and consistently challenge the Russians. Apart from Franz Zorn, as the results this year indicate, there is no one who can give the Russians a run for their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Got to give the Russians credit.They are trying to help by offering team spots to non-Russian riders.Sadly there just isn't the facilities in Europe to get enough riders interested long enough to really get that far.The world outside Russia is contracting.othing much from the Netherlands,Järf looked a good prospect but fell away as it seems has Weber for Germany.So along with Czecho and Poland neither the Dutch or Germans really have a decent prospect on the horizon and with the retirement of Seifter neither have Austria.The Russians look set to dominate for the next few years.What good would a longer series do as the title could well be decided long before the end and so would the domination of the Russian riders be even more enhanced One country dominating a sport to such an extent just isn't interesting to most people other than a novelty one off visit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) I don't agree about the spectator interest. Inzell is sold out every year. Berlin had more visitors then last year. Heerenveen had good figures with 17.000 over three nights (with 8k on saturday). I'm sure an extra GP in Austria or even Sweden would be possible. I was in Togliatti too and it was different there, stadium was nowhere near full. Regarding the Dutch riders: we have three lads going big in the next few years. Ex Moto3 rider Jasper Iwema made huge progress and made Ledstrom and Bauer lifes difficult in only his 3rd race ever. Too bad he got excluded twice due to innerline and a crash. Then we have Jimmy Tuinstra (Johnny his son) and Bart Schaap. I can see a bright future for all three, all they need is the right backing. Got to give the Russians credit.They are trying to help by offering team spots to non-Russian riders This is because there aren't enough good Russian kids coming through. Money is a huge problem in Russia. Riders can't afford much these days. Edited April 6, 2017 by DutchGrasstrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 . I can see a bright future for all three, all they need is the right backing. Money is a huge problem in Russia. Riders can't afford much these days. The first point is the reason promising newcomers like Järf and Tschatschin left or couldn't progress further.Have to hope your boys don't hit the same problem And the second point is what i was refering to with an extended season causing problems for riders who do Polish speedway.The money in Poland is too good to get in the way of a problem of fixture congestion.You can bet that riders would rather ride for a Polish contract than Ice Speedway.I was just wndering if Ice Speedway as an FIM event would have priority and the Ice riders would be made to ride.But then knowing that they might just refuse to qualify for the GPs.Ok it is nly 1 or 2 riders anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 But there aren't really any riders doubling up in ice speedway and Polish League Speedway, are there? Tobi Busch maybe, but his absence would hardly bother the Polish league. I can't see a Problem here, but spectator interest my just not be the same for ice racing in April or even later in the year (there are now some all-year-round ice Arenas available) when lots of other motorsports is going on again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Video of Heerenveen http://eisspeedway.blogspot.de/2017/04/52min-2017-fim-team-ice-speedway_12.html?spref=fb See Bauer was complaining a bit about the gap until Heerenveen.Guess he is going to be unhappier if the gap grows over the next 2 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 3 more ice racing video`s Berlin - Team Final Inzell - Heerenveen - English commentary !! Edited April 13, 2017 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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