Guest GiveusaB Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 I think Doyle might be a bit uncertain. It will depend on how well he recovers from his injure. As for Doyle? yes he's brilliant when on form, but imo he doesnt know when to settle for 2nd place and puts himself at risk on too many occasions ? Great for us spectators.....but a slight detriment to his overall standings etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 As for Doyle? yes he's brilliant when on form, but imo he doesnt know when to settle for 2nd place and puts himself at risk on too many occasions ? Great for us spectators.....but a slight detriment to his overall standings etc Tbf I thought that was a big issue in 2015, not so much last year. Can't think of many if any occasions in 16 when he threw away points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Tbf I thought that was a big issue in 2015, not so much last year. Can't think of many if any occasions in 16 when he threw away points. Agree with that. he was foolish and caused crashes in 2015 but he was in very good form 2016. Bar bad luck at Torun he would have been the Champ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Tbf I thought that was a big issue in 2015, not so much last year. Can't think of many if any occasions in 16 when he threw away points. Yes, may be in the G.P's , but he had a rush of blood in the WTC Final and got himself foolishly excluded ? Imo, it's going to take a year or two more for him to fully mature to this level. (just my thoughts) I think he's great to watch and would love to see justice this year and see him crowned champion ! (even if he doesn't like us Brits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiles Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Should be the best season yet, Zmarzlik is very good but he will not be top pole Dudek will come in and take that crown. Both of them will be fighting for top 3 or even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Cant see beyond Tai or Zmarzlik this season, think Dudek will need a year to settle. 1. ZMARZLIK 2. WOFFINDEN 3. DOYLE 4. SAYFUTDINOV 5. HANCOCK 6. PAWLICKI 7. DUDEK 8. IVERSEN .................... 9. HOLDER 10. PEDERSEN 11. ZAGAR 12. LINDBACK 13. LINDGREN 14. JANOWSKI 15. VACULIK But for me the good news about this series is its the most wide open for years and there will be hundreds of differing opinions as to who will be top 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I really think any of the 15 could be top 8, top 3 between Woffy,Holder,Doyle and Zmarzlik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Cant see beyond Tai or Zmarzlik this season, think Dudek will need a year to settle. 1. ZMARZLIK 2. WOFFINDEN 3. DOYLE 4. SAYFUTDINOV 5. HANCOCK 6. PAWLICKI 7. DUDEK 8. IVERSEN .................... 9. HOLDER 10. PEDERSEN 11. ZAGAR 12. LINDBACK 13. LINDGREN 14. JANOWSKI 15. VACULIK But for me the good news about this series is its the most wide open for years and there will be hundreds of differing opinions as to who will be top 8 This proves the strentgh this year to me look at thst bottom 7 you could make a perfectly valid argument why everyone will be top 8.. i think Tai might drop down a little this year maybe around 5th/6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Emil, Doyle and Pawlicki top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Emil, Doyle and Pawlicki top 3. See i dont think Pawlicki will be top 8 which again highlights the strength as i can see why you put him top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't reckon Emil will be there, just getting into top 8 but no where near top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Woffinden, Hancock, Holder, Doyle top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Zmarzlik Doyle Woffinden Holder Hancock Sayfutinov Iversen Pawlicki Dudek Lindback Vaculik Lindgren Pedersen Zagar Janowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Not a bad list, but I'd be amazed if dudek or pedersen are that low. What a quality line up it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hope I'm wrong but I reckon that could be spot on for Nicki Also, Janowski at 15th but could easily win a gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 See i dont think Pawlicki will be top 8 which again highlights the strength as i can see why you put him top 3Actually think you could pick any three riders as top 3 and make a case for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Riding numbers confirmed-taken from SGP website 2017 FIM SPEEDWAY GRAND PRIX RIDER NUMBERS (in ranking order): 45 Greg Hancock (USA) 108 Tai Woffinden (Great Britain) 95 Bartosz Zmarzlik (Poland) 23 Chris Holder (Australia) 69 Jason Doyle (Australia) 777 Piotr Pawlicki (Poland) 85 Antonio Lindback (Sweden) 88 Niels-Kristian Iversen (Denmark) 55 Matej Zagar (Slovenia) 71 Maciej Janowski (Poland) 66 Fredrik Lindgren (Sweden) 12 Nicki Pedersen (Denmark) 692 Patryk Dudek (Poland) 54 Martin Vaculik (Slovakia) 89 Emil Sayfutdinov (Russia) SUBSTITUTES 25 Peter Kildemand (Denmark) 84 Martin Smolinski (Germany) 46 Max Fricke (Australia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Riding numbers confirmed-taken from SGP website 2017 FIM SPEEDWAY GRAND PRIX RIDER NUMBERS (in ranking order): 45 Greg Hancock (USA) 108 Tai Woffinden (Great Britain) 95 Bartosz Zmarzlik (Poland) 23 Chris Holder (Australia) 69 Jason Doyle (Australia) 777 Piotr Pawlicki (Poland) 85 Antonio Lindback (Sweden) 88 Niels-Kristian Iversen (Denmark) 55 Matej Zagar (Slovenia) 71 Maciej Janowski (Poland) 66 Fredrik Lindgren (Sweden) 12 Nicki Pedersen (Denmark) 692 Patryk Dudek (Poland) 54 Martin Vaculik (Slovakia) 89 Emil Sayfutdinov (Russia) SUBSTITUTES 25 Peter Kildemand (Denmark) 84 Martin Smolinski (Germany) 46 Max Fricke (Australia) This is ridiculous and I cannot fathom the reasoning behind it Much prefer 1-15 for ease of identification / position in table from last season etc. Dudek 692 - Jesus wept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 This is ridiculous and I cannot fathom the reasoning behind it Much prefer 1-15 for ease of identification / position in table from last season etc. Dudek 692 - Jesus wept. Nicki is the only rider who agree`s with you, which is why last years 3 has been changed to his new ranking position of 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Not a Nicki fan but I respect him for not getting involved in this random number nonsense. Piotr Pawlicki-sponsored by 'Lucky Seven' casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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