Championship Teams Comparison Time

[Pob]

 

Your team isn't in the SGB Premiership but it doesn't stop you talking manure all over the SGB Premiership section does it?.

 

As I said on previous occasions grow up fella.

OK so Gavan visits the Premiership thread so what a lot of us also do . But at least his comments most of the time are about the time or a rider connected to the thread .

From what I've seen of Starman comments on this thread I can't see anything about team or riders , Its just normally a blatant comment that has no meaning other than to try and knock wind up or what ever you want to call it towards a poster

 

What's that you say grow up fella mmmmm

[Crump99]

Steve is obviously an earnest and genuine speedway fan but he does encourage Starman and KKS but constantly arguing with them. Please give it a rest, Steve!

 

That was the one of the few upsides of lower level speedway: losing brum from our, or any come to that, threads. He's like my dog, will always come back for the last bark.

[stevehone]

 

Ipswich are the stronger side. Schlein, Newman, Heeps & Mountain all have the edge.

 

 

 

big injury Mountain is coming back from, hope he copes ok with it

[Gavan]

 

Your team isn't in the SGB Premiership but it doesn't stop you talking manure all over the SGB Premiership section does it?.

 

As I said on previous occasions grow up fella.

ah i see you cant do sarcasm or hypocrisy either.

 

You Poole fans tell everyone to leave the Poole thread and go back to their own threads...........................you lack the intellect to realise my tone of post.

 

OK so Gavan visits the Premiership thread so what a lot of us also do . But at least his comments most of the time are about the time or a rider connected to the thread .

From what I've seen of Starman comments on this thread I can't see anything about team or riders , Its just normally a blatant comment that has no meaning other than to try and knock wind up or what ever you want to call it towards a poster

 

What's that you say grow up fella mmmmm

My comments 99% of the time relate to the topic or certain riders. Its only when the local numptys come on and dont actually debate that i sometimes get annoyed with them

 

But you are totally correct..........they dont have the intelligence to respond with anything other than abuse

[Theboss]

Some great teams this year, think the league is wide open and will have some unpredictable results!

[Gavan]

Blah blah blah he goes on and on and on ......same old garbage on every thread. ...yawn...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

welcome to another wonderful contribution to the thread from a Poole fan........amazing...........care to discuss the league? ..nope thought not..bye

[szkocjasid]

Easy way to do this is rate every rider 1 to 10 for each position and team with the lowest number has the best chance of winning. This is just my attempt and not a bad way of doing this. So best number 1 is Cook and he gets rating of 1 for example.

 

This would suggest Sheffield, Ipswich and Glasgow as a top three. Have to wait to see what Edinburgh do. This is just a guess at what would happen and how I rate riders. Please everyone else have a go.

 

 

Berwick

1. Lewis Bridger (8.53) 8th

2. Kevin Doolan (6.99) 8^th

3. Dimitri Berge (6.91) 8^th

4. Claus Vissing (6.80) 4^th

5. Liam Carr (4.69) 7^th

6. Danny Gappmaier (4.00) 5^th

7. Luke Chessell (2.00) 7^th

 

47 points

 

Edinburgh

1.10th don't have rider

2. Ricky Wells (7.92) 3nd

3. 10^th no rider

4. Eric Riss (6.85) 1^st

5. Mark Riss (4.00) 4^th

6. No rider 9^th

7. No rider 10^th

 

8 points currently N/A not a full team

Glasgow

1. Aaron Summers (8.57) 7th

2. Richie Worrall (8.49) 1st

3. Richard Lawson (8.22) 2^nd

4. Nike Lunna (4.90) 7^th

5. Dan Bewley (3.90) 5^th

6. Tom Perry (3.76) 2^nd

7. Jack Smith (2.00) 6^th

 

30 points

 

Ipswich

1. Danny King (9.57) 3rd

2. Nico Covatti (7.49) 5^th

3. Rory Schlein (7.17) 1^st

4. Kyle Newman (6.31) 2^nd

5. Cameron Heeps (5.07) 3^rd

6. Danyon Hume (2.00) 7^th

7. Connor Mountain (2.00) 5^th

 

26 points

 

Newcastle

1. Robert Lambert (8.70) 2nd

2. Steve Worrall (8.47) 2nd

3. Ludvig Lindgren (7.69) 3^rd

4. Lewis Rose (6.12)6^th

5. Ashley Morris (4.98) 8^th

6. Connor Coles (2.00) 8^th

7. Danny Phillips (2.00) 8^th

37 points

 

 

Peterbrough

1. Jack Holder (7.16) 6th

2. Ulrich Ostergaard (7.14) 7^th

3. Kenneth Hansen (6.74) 6^th

4. Simon Lambert (5.25) 5^th

5. No rider 10^th

6. No rider 10^th

7. Tom Bacon (2.00) 1^st

 

25 points N/A not enough riders

Redcar

1. Jason Garrity (8.55) 5th

2. Ben Barker (7.91) 6^th

3. Charles Wright (6.59) 9^th

4. Jonas B Andersen (6.30) 8^th

5. Tobias Busch (4.66) 9^th

6. Richard Hall (3.53) 4^th

7. Ellis Perks (2.38) 2^nd

43 points

 

Scunthorpe

1. Ryan Douglas (7.18) 9th

2. Josh Auty (7.10) 10^th

3. Michael Palm Toft (6.98) 7^th

4. Carl Wilkinson (6.12) 9^th

5. Lewis Kerr (5.98) 2^nd

6. Fritz Wallner (4.00) 3^rd

7. Josh Bailey (2.05) 4^th

44 points

 

 

Sheffield

1. Josh Grajczonek (8.90) 4th

2. Kyle Howarth (7.18) 4^th

3. Lasse Bjerre (6.64) 4^th

4. Todd Kurtz (5.76) 3rd

5. Josh Bates (4.89) 1^st

6. Robert Branford (4.60) 1^st

7. Jack Parkinson-Blackburn (2.00) 3^rd

 

20 points

Workington

1. Craig Cook (9.83) 1st

2. Thomas Jorgensen (7.45) 9^th

3. Ty Proctor (6.68) 5^th

4. Adam Roynon (5.12) 10^th

5. Mason Campton (4.67) 6^th

6. Matt Williamson (3.58) 6^th

7. Rob Shuttleworth (2.00) 9^th

 

46 points

 

Great idea, i'll have a go at this!

[szkocjasid]

Peterbrough 25 points

1. Jack Holder 10th

2. Ulrich Ostergaard (7.14) 5th

3. Kenneth Hansen (6.74) 4th

4. Paul Starke (6.62) 1st

5. Simon Lambert 2nd

6. B W Dean 1st

7. Tom Bacon 2nd

Sheffield 33 points

1. Josh Grajczonek 4th

2. Kyle Howarth (7.18) 7th

3. Lasse Bjerre (6.64) 9th

4. Todd Kurtz (5.76) 4th

5. Josh Bates 4th

6. Robert Branford 2nd

7. Jack P Blackburn 3rd

Glasgow 33 points

1. Aaron Summers 6th

2. Richie Worrall (8.49) 2nd

3. Richard Lawson (8.22) 1st

4. Nike Lunna (4.90) 8th

5. Dan Bewley 8th

6. Tom Perry 3rd

7. Jack Smith 5th

Ipswich 34 points

1. Danny King 3rd

2. Nico Covatti (7.49) 6th

3. Rory Schlein (7.17) 6th

4. Kyle Newman (6.31) 3rd

5. Cameron Heeps 3rd

6. Connor Mountain 9th

7. Danyon Hume 4th

Newcastle 37 points

1. Robert Lambert 5th

2. Steve Worrall (8.47) 1st

3. Ludvig Lindgren (7.69) 2nd

4. Lewis Rose (6.12) 6th

5. Ashley Morris 5th

6. Danny Phillips 10th

7. Connor Coles 8th

Workington 41 points

1. Craig Cook 1st

2. Thomas Jorgensen (7.45) 9th

3. Ty Proctor (6.68) 3rd

4. Adam Roynon (5.12) 9th

5. Mason Campton 6th

6. Matt Williamson 4th

7. Rob Shuttleworth 9th

Redcar 41 points

1. Jason Garrity 7th

2. Ben Barker (7.91) 4th

3. Charles Wright (6.59) 5th

4. Jonas B Andersen (6.30) 5th

5. Tobias Busch 7th

6. Richard Hall 7th

7. Ellis Perks 6th

Edinburgh 41 points

1. Sam Masters 2nd

2. Ricky Wells (7.92) 3rd

3. Eric Riss (6.85) 7th

4. Josh Pickering (5.00) 10th

5. Max Clegg 10th

6. Mark Riss 8th

7. Mitchell Davey 1st

Scunthorpe 49 points

1. Ryan Douglas 9th

2. Josh Auty (7.10) 10th

3. Michael P Toft (6.98) 10th

4. Carl Wilkinson (6.12) 7th

5. Lewis Kerr 1st

6. Fritz Wallner 5th

7. Josh Bailey 7th

Berwick 51 points

1. Lewis Bridger 8th

2. Kevin Doolan (6.99) 8th

3. Dimitri Berge (6.91) 8th

4. Claus Vissing (6.80) 2nd

5. Liam Carr 9th

6. Danny Gappmaier 6th

7. Ryan Blacklock 10th

Edited January 11, 2017 by szkocjasid

[GS550]

 

Peterbrough 24 points

1. Jack Holder (7.16) 9th

2. Ulrich Ostergaard (7.14) 5th

3. Kenneth Hansen (6.74) 4th

4. Paul Starke (6.62) 1st

5. Simon Lambert (5.25) 2nd

6. B W Dean (5.02) 1st

7. Tom Bacon (2.00) 2nd

Glasgow 32 points

1. Aaron Summers (8.57) 6th

2. Richie Worrall (8.49) 2nd

3. Richard Lawson (8.22) 1st

4. Nike Lunna (4.90) 8th

5. Dan Bewley (3.90) 8th

6. Tom Perry (3.76) 3rd

7. Jack Smith (2.00) 4th

Sheffield 33 points

1. Josh Grajczonek (8.90) 4th

2. Kyle Howarth (7.18) 7th

3. Lasse Bjerre (6.64) 9th

4. Todd Kurtz (5.76) 4th

5. Josh Bates (4.89) 4th

6. Robert Branford (4.60) 2nd

7. Jack P Blackburn (2.00) 3rd

Ipswich 35 points

1. Danny King (9.57) 3rd

2. Nico Covatti (7.49) 6th

3. Rory Schlein (7.17) 6th

4. Kyle Newman (6.31) 3rd

5. Cameron Heeps (5.07) 3rd

6. Connor Mountain (2.00) 9th

7. Danyon Hume (2.00) 5th

Newcastle 38 points

1. Robert Lambert (8.70) 5th

2. Steve Worrall (8.47) 1st

3. Ludvig Lindgren (7.69) 2nd

4. Lewis Rose (6.12) 6th

5. Ashley Morris (4.98) 5th

6. Danny Phillips (2.00) 10th

7. Connor Coles (2.00) 9th

Workington 40 points

1. Craig Cook (9.83) 1st

2. Thomas Jorgensen (7.45) 9th

3. Ty Proctor (6.68) 3rd

4. Adam Roynon (5.12) 9th

5. Mason Campton (4.67) 4th

6. Matt Williamson (3.58) 6th

7. Rob Shuttleworth (2.00) 8th

Edinburgh 41 points

1. Sam Masters (8.97) 2nd

2. Ricky Wells (7.92) 3rd

3. Eric Riss (6.85) 7th

4. No Rider (5.03) 10th

5. Max Clegg (4.23) 10th

6. Mark Riss (4.00) 8th

7. Mitchell Davey (3.00) 1st

Redcar 41 points

1. Jason Garrity (8.55) 7th

2. Ben Barker (7.91) 4th

3. Charles Wright (6.59) 5th

4. Jonas B Andersen (6.30) 5th

5. Tobias Busch (4.66) 7th

6. Richard Hall (3.53) 7th

7. Ellis Perks (2.32) 6th

Scunthorpe 50 points

1. Ryan Douglas (7.18) 10th

2. Josh Auty (7.10) 10th

3. Michael P Toft (6.98) 10th

4. Carl Wilkinson (6.12) 7th

5. Lewis Kerr (5.98) 1st

6. Fritz Wallner (4.00) 5th

7. Josh Bailey (2.00) 7th

Berwick 51 points

1. Lewis Bridger (8.53) 8th

2. Kevin Doolan (6.99) 8th

3. Dimitri Berge (6.91) 8th

4. Claus Vissing (6.80) 2nd

5. Liam Carr (4.69) 9th

6. Danny Gappmaier (4.00) 6th

7. Ryan Blacklock (2.00) 10th

 

 

szkocjasid, think you've got Masters and King transposed.

 

Going purely by the averages you've listed, you've got "1. Sam Masters (8.97) 2nd" and "1. Danny King (9.57) 3rd". Should be other way round shouldn't it? So, using your system, this would also slightly change the overall score/rating for the two teams.

 

Using the averages you've listed, the number 1's should actually be in this order(?):

 

Craig Cook (9.83) 1st

Danny King (9.57) 2nd

Sam Masters (8.97) 3rd

Josh Grajczonek (8.90) 4th

Robert Lambert (8.70) 5th

Aaron Summers (8.57) 6th

Jason Garrity (8.55) 7th

Lewis Bridger (8.53) 8th

Jack Holder (7.16) 9th

Ryan Douglas (7.18) 10th

 

 

 

Edit:

Seems to be something wrong with the 4th positions as well. From the averages you've listed Starke isn't the highest average Number 4 rider. Think you've transposed Starke (6.62) and Vissing (6.80).

Edited December 26, 2016 by justere2cgoodspeedway

[Paul Johnson]

Shouldnt ryan be above jack?

[Islander15]

He's not ranking by averages. He's ranking them in order of his personal opinion.

[SharpenRake]

 

szkocjasid, think you've got Masters and King transposed.

 

Going purely by the averages you've listed, you've got "1. Sam Masters (8.97) 2nd" and "1. Danny King (9.57) 3rd". Should be other way round shouldn't it? So, using your system, this would also slightly change the overall score/rating for the two teams.

 

Using the averages you've listed, the number 1's should actually be in this order(?):

 

Craig Cook (9.83) 1st

Danny King (9.57) 2nd

Sam Masters (8.97) 3rd

Josh Grajczonek (8.90) 4th

Robert Lambert (8.70) 5th

Aaron Summers (8.57) 6th

Jason Garrity (8.55) 7th

Lewis Bridger (8.53) 8th

Jack Holder (7.16) 9th

Ryan Douglas (7.18) 10th

 

 

 

Edit:

Seems to be something wrong with the 4th positions as well. From the averages you've listed Starke isn't the highest average Number 4 rider. Think you've transposed Starke (6.62) and Vissing (6.80).

 

i think the whole idea is to give your personal view of riders abilities otherwise there wouldn't be 11 pages of this stuff

[GS550]

He's not ranking by averages. He's ranking them in order of his personal opinion.

 

That's not what the original post way back several pages said - it was by ranking only (as in average ranking) for each position.

 

Also, if its by "his personal opinion" how come practically every ranking is per their average and exactly in order.

 

i think the whole idea is to give your personal view of riders abilities otherwise there wouldn't be 11 pages of this stuff

 

The first post on page 1 of this thread yes, but not the (later) post which put forward listing by each riders position / average - that was proposed purely on their average ranking, nowt else.

Shouldnt ryan be above jack?

 

Well spotted. Correctamundo!!

Edited December 26, 2016 by justere2cgoodspeedway

[SharpenRake]

 

That's not what the original post way back several pages said - it was by ranking only (as in average ranking) for each position.

 

Also, if its by "his personal opinion" how come practically every ranking is per their average and exactly in order.

 

The first post on page 1 of this thread yes, but not the (later) post which put forward listing by each riders position / average - that was proposed purely on their average ranking, nowt else.

 

 

 

'Sid' in post 149 quotes the original post from page 1, says that looks like a good idea I'll have a go. In post 150 he has a go. Think your buying

[GS550]

 

'Sid' in post 149 quotes the original post from page 1, says that looks like a good idea I'll have a go. In post 150 he has a go. Think your buying

 

Looks like its my round then.

Edited October 22, 2017 by justere2cgoodspeedway

[SharpenRake]

 

I had a few dozen beers to catch up on yerself mate.

 

Explains everything - clueless and legless

[szkocjasid]

He's not ranking by averages. He's ranking them in order of his personal opinion.

That's exactly it, ranking in order of my personal opinion!

 

szkocjasid, think you've got Masters and King transposed.

 

Going purely by the averages you've listed, you've got "1. Sam Masters (8.97) 2nd" and "1. Danny King (9.57) 3rd". Should be other way round shouldn't it? So, using your system, this would also slightly change the overall score/rating for the two teams.

 

Using the averages you've listed, the number 1's should actually be in this order(?):

 

Craig Cook (9.83) 1st

Danny King (9.57) 2nd

Sam Masters (8.97) 3rd

Josh Grajczonek (8.90) 4th

Robert Lambert (8.70) 5th

Aaron Summers (8.57) 6th

Jason Garrity (8.55) 7th

Lewis Bridger (8.53) 8th

Jack Holder (7.16) 9th

Ryan Douglas (7.18) 10th

 

 

 

Edit:

Seems to be something wrong with the 4th positions as well. From the averages you've listed Starke isn't the highest average Number 4 rider. Think you've transposed Starke (6.62) and Vissing (6.80).

Ps Douglas (7.18) is higer than Holder (7.16) - regardless, i didn't go by averages, just who i think would do better next year!

[GS550]

 

clueless

 

Haha. Every chance mate.

Edited October 22, 2017 by justere2cgoodspeedway

[SharpenRake]

So you're clueless and as well as legless!!!

 

So why bother listing their starting averages at all then - no point. You obviously didn't follow what the original poster outlined. Doh!!!

Love it 2 posters, myself included point out your inability to understand a posters post. The original poster also points out you are wrong and you blame the poster. Your apology is accepted Edited December 27, 2016 by SharpenRake

[szkocjasid]

 

So you're clueless and as well as legless!!!

 

So why bother listing their starting averages at all then - no point. You obviously didn't follow what the original poster outlined. Doh!!!

Why list their starting averages - because I wanted to really! Also shows who I think is better value on their averages!