Arch Stanton Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Ipswich must be top four or five surelyOf course we are, and will start the season as one of the favourites. I wouldn't pay too much attention to phillipsr when he comments on Ipswich because he has a long lingering dislike for our club for some reason. Edited December 10, 2016 by Catch22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think that it looks like a very competitive, with lots of good and decent teams. Like it previous seasons I think that injuries will play a large part of who will do well and who won't. But I think that you can also add to the equation this season how the doubling up effect will have bearing on who is successful. With that in mind Glasgow for me have the upper hand as their top three as it stands have to give priority to Glasgow fixtures Will be interesting to see how Edinburgh going with th rest of the team building, cannot not imagine them not going with Masters, so adding him to their line up it is difficult to try and piece together a decent line up, but they usually pull something out of the bag. The two teams that I feel may struggle is Scunthorpe and Berwick, and dependant on who else to get in Edinburgh could well be down there with them. Berwick will have to see what Bridger produces ,if he rides like a no1 will do ok IMO .These 2pt superstar reserves that everybody is talking about wont find it easy in this league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Of course we are, and will start the season as one of the favourites. I wouldn't pay too much attention to phillipsr when he comments on Ipswich because he has a long lingering dislike for our club for some reason. No i havent i just dont rate the team assembled. Full of over rated riders who wont step up any further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 No i havent i just dont rate the team assembled. Full of over rated riders who wont step up any further Yep the British Champion is overrated and so are Hume and Mountain! Covatti will average similar and Newman and Heeps will be solid and i would expect Schlein to be fine. No way will Ipswich be as low as 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yep the British Champion is overrated and so are Hume and Mountain! Covatti will average similar and Newman and Heeps will be solid and i would expect Schlein to be fine. No way will Ipswich be as low as 8th So King had one good meeting on a shocking track? I dont think he will increase his average nor will he be the top number 1 in the league. Schlein could increase but several bad injuries will catch up with him. Covatti wont increase. Heeps and Newman are perrineal second strings cant see any improvement there Hume and Mountain will average between 2.50-3 do no great shakes there either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 So King had one good meeting on a shocking track? I dont think he will increase his average nor will he be the top number 1 in the league. Schlein could increase but several bad injuries will catch up with him. Covatti wont increase. Heeps and Newman are perrineal second strings cant see any improvement there Hume and Mountain will average between 2.50-3 do no great shakes there either Perhaps you should look for a different sport to follow Phillip? Speedway definitely isn't for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) So King had one good meeting on a shocking track? I dont think he will increase his average nor will he be the top number 1 in the league. Schlein could increase but several bad injuries will catch up with him. Covatti wont increase. Heeps and Newman are perrineal second strings cant see any improvement there Hume and Mountain will average between 2.50-3 do no great shakes there either Do you watch speedway at all? King will 100% be in the top 3 of the averages, only Cook was higher last year and im not worried if he doesnt increase his average as 9.50 will be just fine Yep Schlein is a risk Covatti didnt improve on a track that doesnt suit, now he has what should be a better track for him. Heeps is not likely to improve but will probably be the best 5th in the averages rider in the league. Newman has every chance to kick on as a second string and brings his elite league form. And your comments on Hume and Mountain are laughable. Edited December 11, 2016 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Do you watch speedway at all? King will 100% be in the top 3 of the averages Yep Schlein is a risk Covatti didnt improve on a track that doesnt suit, now he has what should be a better track for him. Heeps is not likely to improve but will probably be the best 5th in the averages rider in the league. Newman has every chance to kick on as a second string and brings his elite league form. And your comments on Hume and Mountain are laughable. I watch more than you by your own comments. Cook, Lambert, Worrall x2 Graj. will all average more Thats been said about Covatti and Newman every season and never happened. Mountain has had a massive injury amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Perhaps you should look for a different sport to follow Phillip? Speedway definitely isn't for you. Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highlyYou're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 You're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. Cant debate why just resort to calling someone a troll. To suggest Ipswich will be top 3 is laughable your either a troll or a child ill guess at the second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Can't see why phillipsr's comments make him a troll. Ipswich have some really good riders in their 1-5, but they probably don't have much (if any) improvement in them. Schlein is a gamble that could pay huge dividends or blow up in their face. The reserves are decent. I don't think they will be bottom three but they look overrated to me. I hope they do well, but it is perfectly valid to have doubts about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Much of what's best been said about Schlein was said about Kerr last year and he was quickly dropped by the witches, I think Covatti, Newman and Heeps have found their level, both the youngsters have age on their side and should improve whilst King is a class act at this level but unlikely to add much if anything at all. It's not a bad side but the real gamble is Schlein, if he comes good they could shine but if he doesn't the tail could wag a bit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Can't see why phillipsr's comments make him a troll. Ipswich have some really good riders in their 1-5, but they probably don't have much (if any) improvement in them. Schlein is a gamble that could pay huge dividends or blow up in their face. The reserves are decent. I don't think they will be bottom three but they look overrated to me. I hope they do well, but it is perfectly valid to have doubts about them.Of course he's trolling!! He has a dislike for Ipswich despite his denials which you probably aren't aware of. Whether this Ipswich team is rated as favourites or not is irrelevant. Some will rate them as favourites, other like yourself, may not see what the fuss is about and think they're overrated. But one thing this team isn't as it stands, is a bottom 3 team. That's just ridiculous. He even had Edinburgh higher who at the time had only named three riders. Much of what's best been said about Schlein was said about Kerr last year and he was quickly dropped by the witches, I think Covatti, Newman and Heeps have found their level, both the youngsters have age on their side and should improve whilst King is a class act at this level but unlikely to add much if anything at all. It's not a bad side but the real gamble is Schlein, if he comes good they could shine but if he doesn't the tail could wag a bit. TBF Kerr was a victim of the numbers game as much as anything else. Barker had suddenly become available and Ipswich as a team were underperforming. Something had to be done to try and improve and Kerr was the unlucky one although thankfully he was soon snapped up by Scunthorpe. With the greatest of respect to Kerr also, he doesn't have the same pedigree as Schlein. Would you have been happy to take him at Peterborough? Best case scenario is he lives up to his pedigree and pushes King for the number 1 race jacket, worse case scenarios he doesn't look the same rider as previous years but even then IMO a 7 point average looks modest. I honestly don't see a "gamble" of any sort. Time will tell. Edited December 11, 2016 by Catch22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 1. Sheffield 2. Glasgow 3. Newcastle 4. Peterborough5. Ipswich 6. Edinburgh 7. Redcar8. Workington 9. Berwick10. Scunthorpe The two big wildcards for me are Rory Schlein and Lewis Bridger. Don't know how Schlein will go after his injuries and Berwick will live and die by which Lewis Bridger shows up. If he gives it 100% I think Berwick could move up and challenge for the final play off spot. Edited December 11, 2016 by AlanF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Cant debate why just resort to calling someone a troll. To suggest Ipswich will be top 3 is laughable your either a troll or a child ill guess at the secondYour grammatical errors explains everything perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Why can't the guy have an opinion?...and it's a forum not a CV so who cares about grammar!?...what are you..a headmaster? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Why can't the guy have an opinion?...and it's a forum not a CV so who cares about grammar!?...what are you..a headmaster? Too many on here resort to this type off thing spelling , grammar etc, it to me is a sign that they have no other form off attack so they resort to this old chestnut. Sad & pathetic really. You're either blatantly a troll, or you're absolutely clueless when it comes to Speedway. Everyone will have an opinion, some will rate Ipswich as favourites, some will rate Sheffield or Glasgow as favourites. But to suggest that this Ipswich team will be bottom three then like I say you're either completely clueless, or trolling. I would say he was forming his opinion which he is entitled too as much as you have yours. Just because you don't like it or agree with it he is still entitled to it i think he is being generous i would say bottom two but that is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Miller Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Eh? The averages say otherwise. And unlike those others you mentioned who by the way also look cracking prospects, Hume has only been riding Speedway for two years after switching from trials. I saw Hume sit on a Speedway bike for the very first time in 2014 at Coventry when he was offered a spin and the progress he's made in such a short space of time is very impressive. He put nearly 4 points on his average for Birmingham this year from the main body of the side, not reserve. I'll have a bet with you that Hume will end next season with a higher average than the other 3 you mentioned. You're severely underrating this lads potential. Edited December 11, 2016 by Windy Miller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I watch more than you by your own comments. Cook, Lambert, Worrall x2 Graj. will all average more Thats been said about Covatti and Newman every season and never happened. Mountain has had a massive injury amd Hume isnt close to Smith, JPB, Bacon etc Why because i dont rate this Ipswich side that highly Cook maybe, Lambert doubtful but you expect both Worralls and Grazjoneck to average higher than Danny King??? Have an opinion for sure but have some realism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Too many on here resort to this type off thing spelling , grammar etc, it to me is a sign that they have no other form off attack so they resort to this old chestnut. Sad & pathetic really. I would say he was forming his opinion which he is entitled too as much as you have yours. Just because you don't like it or agree with it he is still entitled to it i think he is being generous i would say bottom two but that is my opinion. Don't even know where to start with this one, yours is even worse!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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