Photography Restrictions At Meetings

[DutchGrasstrack]

Yeah you are right with that, but it's more a side subject of this haha....

 

I only state FIM press passes for infield access. Speedway/grasstrack is a dangerous sport and I don't believe that locals know the ins and outs.

 

I have seen many photographers for example laying on the ground taking pics, taking pics on the innerline, etc etc etc.

[falkirkbandit]

 

Nice photos!

I've not seen a yellow Ford Cortina estate for quite a while.....wow!

 

With regard to flash photography, I remember when we used to work on the night forest stages of the RAC Rally. You should have seen the flashguns going off there when the big boys were going through!

 

To be honest, we relied on all these flashguns going off all the time, as it was the only way that you could see what was going on in the stage.

 

You could always tell when you were getting to the tail-enders - there would be hardly any flashes going off.

 

All this flashing didn't seem to bother the drivers too much as I think they were just focussed in their own zone and could block out what they didn't need.

 

 

Cheers! Aye, that Cortina was parked down by our warehouse. When i got back from that days deliveries and saw that, i jumped out of the cab to take a photo on my phone, haha. I remember dad having a yellow Cortina, but not the estate version.

 

I always upload photos to Google+ too. Easier to share if you don't have people on Facebook.

 

Roll on motor sports 2017!

[iris123]

Yeah you are right with that, but it's more a side subject of this haha....

 

I only state FIM press passes for infield access. Speedway/grasstrack is a dangerous sport and I don't believe that locals know the ins and outs.

 

I have seen many photographers for example laying on the ground taking pics, taking pics on the innerline, etc etc etc.

Yes i have seen some crazy stuff.John Bo from Denmark used to stick his camera on the line and shoot using a remote,which is obviously far safer,but not sure what sort of photos he was getting.Not really sure why the need to get so close.

 

I think Güstrow for instance didn't really want any photographer on the inside.I think more and more will go this way.Like i said earlier,possible use of drones to take pics will be used more and more in the future.They will certainly be an issue with invasion of privacy.Also been a few incidents of drones flying near airports,nuclear reactors etc.They would be pretty difficult to control at speedway meetings in towns and cities where someone could be in a car or house nearby and speedway clubs don't really have the time or mone to try and hunt them person down.It is also impossible nowadays to stop people taking photos with their mobiles.I can understand the issue,but it is almost impossible to control now and only getting harder

 

http://www.drone-air.com/services/sports/

 

http://www.roboticstomorrow.com/article/2016/03/using-drones-for-aerial-photography/7753/

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/09/drones_in_sports_they_can_help_coaches_and_athletes_but_also_create_major.html

Edited December 3, 2016 by iris123

[DutchGrasstrack]

Yes i have seen some crazy stuff.John Bo from Denmark used to stick his camera on the line and shoot using a remote,which is obviously far safer,but not sure what sort of photos he was getting.Not really sure why the need to get so close.

 

I think Güstrow for instance didn't really want any photographer on the inside.I think more and more will go this way.Like i said earlier,possible use of drones to take pics will be used more and more in the future.They will certainly be an issue with invasion of privacy.Also been a few incidents of drones flying near airports,nuclear reactors etc.They would be pretty difficult to control at speedway meetings in towns and cities where someone could be in a car or house nearby and speedway clubs don't really have the time or mone to try and hunt them person down.It is also impossible nowadays to stop people taking photos with their mobiles.I can understand the issue,but it is almost impossible to control now and only getting harder

 

Lol John is creative

 

Yeah it's indeed going this way. One Sport for example reduced from 6 to 4 photographers and only 3 in the pits due to Eurosport demands. Also at a longtrack race in Dingolfing earlier this year only FIM press pass holders were allowed on the infield due to the 'insurance policy' they had.

[Tsunami]

 

Well, obviously if someone is filming on a commercial basis without permission then that is understandable.

 

Wow, who is the draconian individual to whom you refer?

Anybody who thinks every punter, that attends and event/activity where they have to pay to go/attend and should not be liable to accept reasonable rules set out and published by the event owner. Children, business and the likes need protection. Could be you !!!

[iris123]

Anybody who thinks every punter, that attends and event/activity where they have to pay to go/attend and should not be liable to accept reasonable rules set out and published by the event owner. Children, business and the likes need protection. Could be you !!!

That is obviously why close up,zoom and video are specifically mentioned.The track photographer/track shop want to sell those action and portrait pics.If everyone can do their own close ups(first time i have seen this mentioned)then no-one buys from the track shop.And obviously Sky pay a lot of money to cover meetings and tracks also have their own man their filming meetings to sell the dvd's....

 

Tbh i don't understand quite why at concert venues they supposedly ban photos,because they aren't selling pics of the band.....But i have been to venues where they have a "no camera" sign,but nowadays people are taking 1,000s of pics inside with their mobiles.Only once at an all seater venue have i seen staff going round and telling people to stop taking photos

 

So i can understand the stance at speedway,though as i say,nowadays it is almost impossible to police unless the stadiums are so empty you can spot people easily,but once drones really take off.........

[steve roberts]

When I used to do shifts at the local Art Gallery the policy was for no photos. It was almost impossible to police what with cameras in mobile phones etc.

[iris123]

I know some tourist places,Semper Opera in Dresden is one that springs to mind,ask for 5 euros or something before you are allowed to take photos.

[Guest]

There have been many speedway cameramen over the years - in the post-war era the best undoubtedly were Wright Wood, Alf Weedon and Mike Patrick.

[f-s-p]

Not one photographer uses flash while shooting from the outside. What are you on about Doug?

I dont even own one, but thats purely a financial stance. Someone will probably know better and tell us, but as my camera shoots 8 times a sec, the isnt a flash that can keep up.

 

Drones are a HUUGE safety risk and should be banned in all motorcycle sport.

[iris123]

Not one photographer uses flash while shooting from the outside. What are you on about Doug?

I dont even own one, but thats purely a financial stance. Someone will probably know better and tell us, but as my camera shoots 8 times a sec, the isnt a flash that can keep up.

 

Drones are a HUUGE safety risk and should be banned in all motorcycle sport.

Flash works the same on the inside of the track and on the outside.Are you also saying no one shoots flash on the insidebecause it is too slow?

 

I personally think drones are a big danger to our society as a whole,not only to motorsports,but governments are being far too slow to clamp down on them and probably it will now be closing the door after the horse has bolted

[SCB]

I've taken photos at Newport, Swindon, Coventry, Peterborough and Belle Vue and never had any problems. You'd think after taking all them photos I'd have at least one decent photo but amazingly not!

[f-s-p]

Flash works the same on the inside of the track and on the outside.Are you also saying no one shoots flash on the insidebecause it is too slow?

 

I personally think drones are a big danger to our society as a whole,not only to motorsports,but governments are being far too slow to clamp down on them and probably it will now be closing the door after the horse has bolted

There are plenty good photographers and people who know better than me, but me thinks flash is useless while photographing speedway.

 

Drones might drop and cause serious damage. My thinking stops there.

[Tsunami]

I've taken photos at Newport, Swindon, Coventry, Peterborough and Belle Vue and never had any problems. You'd think after taking all them photos I'd have at least one decent photo but amazingly not!

Ha Ha.

Despite what Newcastle Speedway posts on this subject, it really is to protect others interests. It is broadcast over the tannoy during the meeting, but there are stacks of fans who still take odd shots, especially as the riders having been interviewed as a team after heat 15 are encouraged to mix with the fans and have private pictures taken. Mrs Lambert films her sons every ride, presumably for analysis and scrapbook, my juniors are always being filmed and their races are posted on Facebook every week. So it can be seen it is not enforced strictly, but the stance has to be made to deter the outside photographers becoming a problem, and more importantly stop the introduction of apps like Periscope which is live update for non attendees. That will never be allowed.

On request, fan photographers have been invited to shoot pre meeting in the pits, and also shadow our own resident photographer Steve Brock and receive advice and instructions.

Edited December 4, 2016 by Tsunami

[topaz325]

There are plenty good photographers and people who know better than me, but me thinks flash is useless while photographing speedway.

Drones might drop and cause serious damage. My thinking stops there.

Yes in decent light flash is not necessary.

Ha Ha.

Despite what Newcastle Speedway posts on this subject, it really is to protect others interests. It is broadcast over the tannoy during the meeting, but there are stacks of fans who still take odd shots, especially as the riders having been interviewed as a team after heat 15 are encouraged to mix with the fans and have private pictures taken. Mrs Lambert films her sons every ride, presumably for analysis and scrapbook, my juniors are always being filmed and their races are posted on Facebook every well. So it can be seen it is not enforced strictly, but the stance has to be made to deter the outside photographers becoming a problem, and more importantly stop the introduction of apps like Periscope which is live update for non attendees. That will never be allowed.

On request, fan photographers have been invited to shoot pre meeting in the pits, and also shadow our own resident photographer Steve Brock and receive advice and instructions.

Double standards thought all photos were Godspeed copyright

 

I never take photos at Speedway

I never break the speed limit

I never park on double yellow lines

[f-s-p]

Yes in decent light flash is not necessary.

 

yellow lines

Yeah you kind of caught me there as over here we dont have meetings under floodlights. BUt even the GP's I've done indoors, cant remember seeing a flash used. Will stick to the opinion of flash not being able to keep up with the camera though... = )

[SCB]

Ha Ha.

Despite what Newcastle Speedway posts on this subject, it really is to protect others interests. It is broadcast over the tannoy during the meeting, but there are stacks of fans who still take odd shots, especially as the riders having been interviewed as a team after heat 15 are encouraged to mix with the fans and have private pictures taken. Mrs Lambert films her sons every ride, presumably for analysis and scrapbook, my juniors are always being filmed and their races are posted on Facebook every well. So it can be seen it is not enforced strictly, but the stance has to be made to deter the outside photographers becoming a problem, and more importantly stop the introduction of apps like Periscope which is live update for non attendees. That will never be allowed.

On request, fan photographers have been invited to shoot pre meeting in the pits, and also shadow our own resident photographer Steve Brock and receive advice and instructions.

I remember asking Tim Stone about 15 years ago if I could tale photos and his answer was "if you not taking them for money you can do what you like until I say otherwise". I always got the impression the clause/warning is there in case they want to stop someone rather than because they want to stop someone and that makes sense - especially with the periscope thing!

Edited December 4, 2016 by SCB

[stevehone]

Peterborough always heaving with photographers

[iris123]

By coincidence i saw this today.A drone that automatically follows someone.Could have one rider with whatever it follows or wonder if it would be possible(eventually surely)to have 4 following the 4 riders.

 

https://www.airdog.com/

[Guest]

There have been many speedway cameramen over the years - in the post-war era the best undoubtedly were Wright Wood, Alf Weedon and Mike Patrick.

 

Two young photographers from the mid-1950s to early-1960s who promised much were John Goldfinch (a cousin of Wimbledon rider Gil Goldfinch) and Len Birch. Sadly both moved away from speedway into other photographic realms.

So far as John Goldfinch is concerned, I especially remember him doing 'at home' style features for 'Speedway Star' on Phil Bishop, Graham Warren and Ron How sometime in the late 1950s-early 1960s era.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Guest