Crazy robin Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Your parents must be very proud of you - you are a gift that just keeps giving! Not sure his parents have let him have the big bedroom yet as his Poole duvet & curtains would be to big. That as well as his photo's of Matt Ford on the walls😉😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Not sure his parents have let him have the big bedroom yet as his Poole duvet & curtains would be to big. That as well as his photo's of Matt Ford on the walls He'd also have to remove all those love hearts he drew on the walls with SM 4 MF written all over them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think its fair to say that if the averages hadn't been 'factored' (I think thats the right word?!), Chris would have been included in Poole's 1-7 as usual and not looked anywhere else.Hmm, I'm not so sure. It is a very handy excuse and in Matt's interview he did seem to suggest the personal problems had quite a bearing on the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubichair Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Don't see any reason why holder wouldn't be at lynn for a few years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Don't see any reason why holder wouldn't be at lynn for a few years!Dont you want Iversen back when he is available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Dont you want Iversen back when he is available?I think we'll try to fit them both in 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 How, when the league gets weaker every year? Lucky to fit one in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't get all this crap about averages being the reason Holder was not signed by Poole. When someone who has served the club so well, been a legion for more years than one can remember, been an inspiration to so many, top scored most seasons, at any other club he would have been the first name on the sheet. even had the average been doubled. Whatever reasons behind the thinking, it had nothing to do with his average. Especially with the heat format going back to when the heat leaders were the most important rider in the team. Its all very good having strong reserves but that not that important any more. Riders like KK and Andersen are OK, but they are also moody riders and have more oft days than most. These two cannot be compared to the quality of Holder. It is for this reason I feel there is more to it than we know. Could it be Finance?, Could it be Personalities?, Could it be Attitude? It could be a number of things . I know at Lynn we would've moved Heaven and Earth to have Niels in our team on even a bigger average than Chris. so it was surmountable. We have benefitted from Poole not wanting Chris and he'll be made most welcome here.. Had this event had happened here at Lynn with Niels the fans would have been in uproar that he was allowed to go. I'm amazed, most of the Poole fans have just accepted it as the right thing to do, because Matt Ford said so. As a Kings Lynn Supporter I like to say a big Thank You to Matt Ford , whatever the reasons were.... A Happy Christmas to you all...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't get all this crap about averages being the reason Holder was not signed by Poole. When someone who has served the club so well, been a legion for more years than one can remember, been an inspiration to so many, top scored most seasons, at any other club he would have been the first name on the sheet. even had the average been doubled. Whatever reasons behind the thinking, it had nothing to do with his average. Especially with the heat format going back to when the heat leaders were the most important rider in the team. Its all very good having strong reserves but that not that important any more. Riders like KK and Andersen are OK, but they are also moody riders and have more oft days than most. These two cannot be compared to the quality of Holder. It is for this reason I feel there is more to it than we know. Could it be Finance?, Could it be Personalities?, Could it be Attitude? It could be a number of things . I know at Lynn we would've moved Heaven and Earth to have Niels in our team on even a bigger average than Chris. so it was surmountable. We have benefitted from Poole not wanting Chris and he'll be made most welcome here.. Had this event had happened here at Lynn with Niels the fans would have been in uproar that he was allowed to go. I'm amazed, most of the Poole fans have just accepted it as the right thing to do, because Matt Ford said so. As a Kings Lynn Supporter I like to say a big Thank You to Matt Ford , whatever the reasons were.... A Happy Christmas to you all...... How many league titles have Kings Lynn won? How many league titles have Poole won? No need for Poole fans to be in uproar. We have a stronger team without Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't get all this crap about averages being the reason Holder was not signed by Poole. When someone who has served the club so well, been a legion for more years than one can remember, been an inspiration to so many, top scored most seasons, at any other club he would have been the first name on the sheet. even had the average been doubled. Whatever reasons behind the thinking, it had nothing to do with his average. Especially with the heat format going back to when the heat leaders were the most important rider in the team. Its all very good having strong reserves but that not that important any more. Riders like KK and Andersen are OK, but they are also moody riders and have more oft days than most. These two cannot be compared to the quality of Holder. It is for this reason I feel there is more to it than we know. Could it be Finance?, Could it be Personalities?, Could it be Attitude? It could be a number of things . I know at Lynn we would've moved Heaven and Earth to have Niels in our team on even a bigger average than Chris. so it was surmountable. We have benefitted from Poole not wanting Chris and he'll be made most welcome here.. Had this event had happened here at Lynn with Niels the fans would have been in uproar that he was allowed to go. I'm amazed, most of the Poole fans have just accepted it as the right thing to do, because Matt Ford said so. As a Kings Lynn Supporter I like to say a big Thank You to Matt Ford , whatever the reasons were.... A Happy Christmas to you all...... I must agree with you I'm disappointed that Chris is not at poole I don't think average's had very much to do with it either anyway I've said before your gain our lose await the usual suspect to say we are wrong. happy Christmas as welltypical crap reply already I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I must agree with you I'm disappointed that Chris is not at poole I don't think average's had very much to do with it either anyway I've said before your gain our lose await the usual suspect to say we are wrong. happy Christmas as well typical crap reply already I see Yep, typical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Yep, typical! You know what you get with Shovlar its the same old tripe trotted out, along with Starman and Gater1 (or MonsterDaz depending on what day it is) they all annoy the true genuine Poole fans out there with what they post. You can tell how rattled the 3 of them are as they continually post on either the Kings Lynn thread or the Chris Holder thread and their comments are always the same old garbage about how wonderful Poole are. Blinkered blue tints they are called. Thank christ there are a few decent Poole fans out there (foreverblue rayc among them) who understand the possible implications of Holder not riding for them and realise how strong Kings Lynn are and the threat they pose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think we'll try to fit them both in Haha! good luck with that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubichair Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) I think we'll try to fit them both in can try squeeze them in lol Edited December 19, 2016 by hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I must agree with you I'm disappointed that Chris is not at poole I don't think average's had very much to do with it either anyway I've said before your gain our lose await the usual suspect to say we are wrong. happy Christmas as welltypical crap reply already I see Crap reply? I explained the exact reasoning why Holder was dropped in favour of KK on another thread. The extra points made available by using KK outweigh retaining Holder, who didn't help himself last season with personal problems and the drunken arrival at a sponsors party. I am a Holder fan and will continue to support him in the GPs but no rider is bigger than the club. Poole stand a much better chance of winning the league with the team Matt Ford has put together than a team that would have included Holder.Holders inclusion would have meant two very weak reserves. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't get all this crap about averages being the reason Holder was not signed by Poole. When someone who has served the club so well, been a legion for more years than one can remember, been an inspiration to so many, top scored most seasons, at any other club he would have been the first name on the sheet. even had the average been doubled. Whatever reasons behind the thinking, it had nothing to do with his average. Especially with the heat format going back to when the heat leaders were the most important rider in the team. Its all very good having strong reserves but that not that important any more. Riders like KK and Andersen are OK, but they are also moody riders and have more oft days than most. These two cannot be compared to the quality of Holder. It is for this reason I feel there is more to it than we know. Could it be Finance?, Could it be Personalities?, Could it be Attitude? It could be a number of things . I know at Lynn we would've moved Heaven and Earth to have Niels in our team on even a bigger average than Chris. so it was surmountable. We have benefitted from Poole not wanting Chris and he'll be made most welcome here.. Had this event had happened here at Lynn with Niels the fans would have been in uproar that he was allowed to go. I'm amazed, most of the Poole fans have just accepted it as the right thing to do, because Matt Ford said so. As a Kings Lynn Supporter I like to say a big Thank You to Matt Ford , whatever the reasons were.... A Happy Christmas to you all...... I agree that it was obviously possible to fit Chris in to the Poole team and their were well documented issues apart from his average but i think we have a stronger team without him. He will certainly be missed at Wimborne Road but happy for him that he has got a ride in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I agree that it was obviously possible to fit Chris in to the Poole team and their were well documented issues apart from his average but i think we have a stronger team without him. He will certainly be missed at Wimborne Road but happy for him that he has got a ride in the UK. Exactly. Sentiment doesn't win titles. We could have ended up with a team like Swindons with Doyle taking up far too many points. Those extra points we had to play with made all the difference and anyone with an idea of putting out a strong balanced team can surely see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't get all this crap about averages being the reason Holder was not signed by Poole. When someone who has served the club so well, been a legion for more years than one can remember, been an inspiration to so many, top scored most seasons, at any other club he would have been the first name on the sheet. even had the average been doubled. Whatever reasons behind the thinking, it had nothing to do with his average. Especially with the heat format going back to when the heat leaders were the most important rider in the team. Its all very good having strong reserves but that not that important any more. Riders like KK and Andersen are OK, but they are also moody riders and have more oft days than most. These two cannot be compared to the quality of Holder. It is for this reason I feel there is more to it than we know. Could it be Finance?, Could it be Personalities?, Could it be Attitude? It could be a number of things . I know at Lynn we would've moved Heaven and Earth to have Niels in our team on even a bigger average than Chris. so it was surmountable. We have benefitted from Poole not wanting Chris and he'll be made most welcome here.. Had this event had happened here at Lynn with Niels the fans would have been in uproar that he was allowed to go. I'm amazed, most of the Poole fans have just accepted it as the right thing to do, because Matt Ford said so. As a Kings Lynn Supporter I like to say a big Thank You to Matt Ford , whatever the reasons were.... A Happy Christmas to you all...... No question of Holder's quality - his average alone demonstrates that. But your comments about KK and Hans being 'moody', seem to indicate that Holder isn't and doesn't have any 'off' days?! I hope you and he and Poole have a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Crap reply? I explained the exact reasoning why Holder was dropped in favour of KK on another thread. The extra points made available by using KK outweigh retaining Holder, who didn't help himself last season with personal problems and the drunken arrival at a sponsors party. I am a Holder fan and will continue to support him in the GPs but no rider is bigger than the club. Poole stand a much better chance of winning the league with the team Matt Ford has put together than a team that would have included Holder.Holders inclusion would have meant two very weak reserves. No thanks. But is there any difference between Pooles reserves and Lynns? Klindt should be better than Huckenbeck but it isnt a guarantee now that Kai has had a years experience over here now and will be riding in easier races. Holder v KK - Holder Lambert v Hans - Lambert Batch v Kurtz - Batch Porsing v Holder - Holder Rose v Newman - Newman (though Rose is very close) Huckenbeck v Klindt - Klindt Bailey v Shanes - level So 2 very closely matched teams and blatantly obvious that Poole could have used Holder and still been very strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 But is there any difference between Pooles reserves and Lynns? Klindt should be better than Huckenbeck but it isnt a guarantee now that Kai has had a years experience over here now and will be riding in easier races. Holder v KK - Holder Lambert v Hans - Lambert Batch v Kurtz - Batch Porsing v Holder - Holder Rose v Newman - Newman (though Rose is very close) Huckenbeck v Klindt - Klindt Bailey v Shanes - level So 2 very closely matched teams and blatantly obvious that Poole could have used Holder and still been very strong don't agree with you on rose and Newman kyle is far better than Lewis at the moment just our opinion's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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