brianbuck Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 The points limit based on averages was a good idea in principle but long experience has shown that it isn't working. A better option would be a grading system but this would need totally independent graders to operate it and they should have the authority to re-grade any rider whose grade is obviously wrong. Personally, I can't see this ever being acceptable to many promoters so we are pretty much stuck with the present system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Carr dropped by Berwick, so Birmingham's move is now legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 As far as I can make out (from what Stanley Unwin has written in the rule book!) this move has always been legit. The only difficulty being that Carr's changed average was issued last Thursday but doesn't take effect until today. Therefore, as I see it, the BSPA MC could (and apparently did) approve it, but it would not be effective until this morning. I really can't see why people should feel the need to challenge this. If a club loses a rider through a long-term injury such as Birmingham have in this instance, then why on earth should they be denied the opportunity of taking on a replacement when there is the opportunity to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 ...I really can't see why people should feel the need to challenge this. If a club loses a rider through a long-term injury such as Birmingham have in this instance, then why on earth should they be denied the opportunity of taking on a replacement when there is the opportunity to do so? If you think that this is bad, just wait 'til you see what develops on the Poole thread in the Premiership section now that the Pirates might have to replace KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Well last season we made zero changes season before we only made changes as reserve. Now 3 meetings into the season we have already made 2 enforced changes.. Unfortunately our problem will be when layne goes into the main body and leek and roberts are the reserve pairing.There really gonna struggle to score points but as always we will give them as much support as we can from the terraces and hopefully they improve as the weeks and months go by if they can score 6+ between them a meeting we have a chance of winning.. So onwards and upwards hopefully we can still nick 4th place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 JPB is taking a break from the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) JPB is taking a break from the sportGutting news for Brummies fans and British speedway. Maybe Hall can finally be fitted into the NL on his large average, with JPB currently on 11.27. Equally unless Jack comes back this season he's made himself unemployable in the NL unfortunately. Edited June 2, 2017 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Gutted if hes taking a break from us but i think it will just be Sheffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Looks like our old friend Adam Ellis could return for the rest of the season then fits in lovely.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Gutting news for Brummies fans and British speedway. Maybe Hall can finally be fitted into the NL on his large average, with JPB currently on 11.27. Equally unless Jack comes back this season he's made himself unemployable in the NL unfortunately. Catch 22 for him. His average is false because it covers a very easy start. Home to Kings Lynn, Plymouth and Buxton, away to Kings Lynn and Stoke. Such weak opposition. If he packs up now Brumm will have a massive gain being able to use so many points which no doubt will cause a lot more argument but he will be saddled with an average that will make it very unwise to include him in future declarations this year or next year. I suspect Red & Yellow is right and he is only a bit depressed with the championship which seems to have been a bit tough for him. I wonder if it is Sheffield who have initiated this? The next match is Wednesday so we should know soon. Looks like our old friend Adam Ellis could return for the rest of the season then fits in lovely.. Now that would start a riot, he has a 7.64 Premiership average. Even the BSPA could not justify that. JPB will change is mind after a couple of days thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies_Ste Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 From Brummies main site BIRMINGHAM boss Graham Drury says he'll stand by club No.1 Jack Parkinson-Blackburn every step of the way - with a potential ban looming.It comes after the 16-year-old informed his parent club Sheffield that he wished to take a temporary step back from Championship racing.It's been a tough introduction to life in the second tier for Parkinson-Blackburn who has scored just one point in his last two meetings for the Tigers.Parkinson-Blackburn is keen to re-build his confidence riding for the Brummies in the National League where he has scored 72 points from their five meetings so far.However, the sport's governing body may not allow that to happen."There's talk that Jack could potentially face a 28 day racing ban for withholding his services for Sheffield - but realistically that's not entirely the case," Drury explained."Jack has spoken to the promoters at Sheffield and has explained how much racing in the Championship is affecting him right now."He had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction after their meeting against Edinburgh on Thursday, after failing to score from three rides, and told them later on the night that he wanted to take a break from racing."By his own admission it's been a lot harder than he imagined - but finishing last isn't in the lad's nature and it's not doing his confidence and morale any good whatsoever."It's also affecting him a lot financially as well. He's supported mainly by his grandparents and the outgoings at that level are very high indeed - especially when you're not getting much coming in due to a lack of points as well."But after sleeping on it, Jack decided he didn't want a full break, because he lives for his speedway racing. Therefore, he asked if he could take a few weeks away from Championship racing with the view of going back there refreshed with his confidence rebuilt after what will hopefully be a positive few weeks with Birmingham."He has been flying for us at this level and with a run of good meetings for us behind him, there's no reason why he wouldn't be able to go back to Sheffield with a totally different mindset when he felt ready for the challenge again."He's 16 years of age, he's inexperienced and he needs as much help and support as he can possibly get."Banning him while his confidence is already low would only do more harm than good and I hope the people with the power at the top take everything into account."He is one bright prospect who is a fantastic, natural talent on a speedway bike."It really would be a sorry state of affairs if a star of the future was banned for taking what I feel is a sensible step backwards and it could potentially have an impact on the long term future of his career."While it is a massive leap, I do believe young, English riders should be encouraged to move up to the next level - but only if they are also fully supported if they decide that they need to take one step backwards to move four more forwards further down the line."Throwing them in at the deep end and then punishing them if it doesn't work out isn't the way to go about things in my opinion at all so hopefully common sense will prevail."I tried contacting the Sheffield promotion to discuss the situation once Jack had stated his intention to continue racing with us in the National League. I would like to think they'd be over the moon that he has had a change of heart from his initial decision and that they look forward to inviting him back into their team in the near future when his confidence has come flooding back." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 changed it already it would appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Yeah seems like he'll continue with Birmingham at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Pretty harsh on the kid if he gets a ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 changed it already it would appear Did JPB "change his mind" or was the story/rumour wrong in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Does anyone know whats happening ? As it currently stands JPB cannot ride for us as he is automatically banned as he never rode for sheffield Friday so unfortunately hes change of heart may be too late. Its up to the bspa to see common sense and allow him to ride Wednesday. If not we will/should sign Adam Ellis as a 28 day replacement ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Does anyone know whats happening ? As it currently stands JPB cannot ride for us as he is automatically banned as he never rode for sheffield Friday so unfortunately hes change of heart may be too late. Its up to the bspa to see common sense and allow him to ride Wednesday. If not we will/should sign Adam Ellis as a 28 day replacement ... As far as I can see he will have to serve a 28 day ban. The problem is that he announced to the club on the Thursday night that he needed a break and with Sheffield having a meeting the following day they had to declare that he was withholding his services or find a permanent replacement, which would have been virtually impossible. To not be banned there would need to be a rule change or special dispensation, but doing that could leave maybe future abuse from other clubs. Unfortunately JPB decision has not only impacted on Sheffield but Birmingham as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 As far as I can see he will have to serve a 28 day ban. The problem is that he announced to the club on the Thursday night that he needed a break and with Sheffield having a meeting the following day they had to declare that he was withholding his services or find a permanent replacement, which would have been virtually impossible. To not be banned there would need to be a rule change or special dispensation, but doing that could leave maybe future abuse from other clubs. Unfortunately JPB decision has not only impacted on Sheffield but Birmingham as well. Yep that is also the way i see it too im afraid Unfortunately for Jack its a harsh lesson to learn . So Adam Ellis it is for a Month R/R would be a disaster and Guests at number 1 for Birmingham dont work out that often for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Yep that is also the way i see it too im afraid Unfortunately for Jack its a harsh lesson to learn . So Adam Ellis it is for a Month R/R would be a disaster and Guests at number 1 for Birmingham dont work out that often for some reason Surely bringing Ellis in, who's clearly outgrown the NL, is doing as much harm to the sport as giving JPB dispensation to not get a 28 day ban? If he is banned then the Brummie should use guests, they can have literally anyone in the league. The likes of Boxall, Bowen, Ayres and Roynon aren't going to let the club down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) I think guest is a better shout... you've got Bowen, Clegg, Knight, boxall ect you can have anyone in the league.... Edited June 4, 2017 by Al3x200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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