ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) IM NOT CONFUSED MR PERRY GOT SMITH IN TO REPLACE A STRUGGLING ALEX WILSON NO CONFUSION HERE .. DRURY HAD NEVER HEARD OF JACK SMITH UNTIL IT WAS SUGGESTED... MR BBUCK what have i said that is untrue ? what have i said that is slandering ? There are other aspects of Drurys management i like just unlike you i dont see things through rose tinted specs.. Edited May 5, 2017 by redandyellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Drury may be a prick but I don't doubt his team management skills at all, his record speaks for itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) So Birmingham's statement basically says that they've been allowed by the MC to include Carr once his average drops. So reading between the lines it is illegal but they've been given special permission to include him once his Championship average falls to 3.00 (but in reality he's hitting something like 1.70). Edited May 5, 2017 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Drury may be a prick but I don't doubt his team management skills at all, his record speaks for itselfThis. Many times over. Probably aid exactly what I think in a lot less words than I could. Got to respect the bloke for always building a decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 So Birmingham's statement basically says that they've been allowed by the MC to include Carr once his average drops. So reading between the lines it is illegal but they've been given special permission to include him once his Championship average falls to 3.00 (but in reality he's hitting something like 1.70). So who will be signing Max Clegg, when his average drops ?, theres a real can of worms being opened up here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 So Birmingham's statement basically says that they've been allowed by the MC to include Carr once his average drops. So reading between the lines it is illegal but they've been given special permission to include him once his Championship average falls to 3.00 (but in reality he's hitting something like 1.70). To be quite frank its about time Birmingham were given something in their favour. Some may recall how we were not allowed to sign Richard Hall (I think) last year to replace the injured Zach. The MC decided that his current average was not applicable and applied an average of several years ago. At the time Birmingham did not make a song and dance about this decision, other than to say they did not understand it. We just got on with the job in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 So Liam's riding tonight at Stoke despite still being on his 4.?? average? His new average comes tomorrow by the way. Does this mean he's allowed to ride for both teams then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 He aint riding for brum tonight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies_Ste Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 So Liam's riding tonight at Stoke despite still being on his 4.?? average? His new average comes tomorrow by the way. Does this mean he's allowed to ride for both teams then? Incorrect Liam's 1st meeting is next Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Incorrect Liam's 1st meeting is next Wednesday I was just asking if he was riding or not as he has signed and you have a meeting that's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 To be quite frank its about time Birmingham were given something in their favour. Some may recall how we were not allowed to sign Richard Hall (I think) last year to replace the injured Zach. The MC decided that his current average was not applicable and applied an average of several years ago. At the time Birmingham did not make a song and dance about this decision, other than to say they did not understand it. We just got on with the job in hand. The difference is the Hall signing was within the current rules (and needed no special MC permission) and should've been ratified. Maybe the MC are attempting to make up for their previously harsh ruling. I therefore await the NL co-ordinator to make a similar move towards the Isle of Wight after being harshly ruled out of signing Harland Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 ... Maybe the MC are attempting to make up for their previously harsh ruling.... The BSPA Management Committee will take ALL factors into account when treating each case on its own merits and deciding on the best interests of British Speedway, which usually means deciding against the wishes of the club you yourself support. Factors include the time of day, whether their wives shouted at them that morning, the windspeed and direction, how bright the sun is shining, the fall of the leaves in their teacups, a roll of the dice, and which tarot cards are laid out on the table in front of them. If it's consistancey, competence and common sense that you're after, you're in the wrong sport ;-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) The BSPA Management Committee will take ALL factors into account when treating each case on its own merits and deciding on the best interests of British Speedway, which usually means deciding against the wishes of the club you yourself support. Factors include the time of day, whether their wives shouted at them that morning, the windspeed and direction, how bright the sun is shining, the fall of the leaves in their teacups, a roll of the dice, and which tarot cards are laid out on the table in front of them. If it's consistancey, competence and common sense that you're after, you're in the wrong sport ;-) Another factor you forgot to mention was whether they were able to board a train at Rugby without buying a ticket in an attempt to fare dodge!! Edited May 6, 2017 by bluejam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 The difference is the Hall signing was within the current rules (and needed no special MC permission) and should've been ratified. Maybe the MC are attempting to make up for their previously harsh ruling. I therefore await the NL co-ordinator to make a similar move towards the Isle of Wight after being harshly ruled out of signing Harland Cook. The problem (as I see it) with all of this is not that they decide one way or another 'in the best interests of speedway'. For me the problem is that they do not EVER explain the decision. Any decision.That fact alone creates the perception that one club or another (usually the one you support.) is getting shafted. Perception is everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just scrap the averages ,problems solved All over the country.Like I said previously some Promoters get away with rule bending others don't .Nothing changes.(all in the interests of the sport obviously ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Quickest way to bankrupt the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Quickest way to bankrupt the sportMost clubs are paying more than they can afford just now so nothing different might bring them to there senses,the riders might also get a fright .Birmingham,Eastbourne,Lakeside Cradley paying silly money to junior riders. Edited May 6, 2017 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 The problem (as I see it) with all of this is not that they decide one way or another 'in the best interests of speedway'. For me the problem is that they do not EVER explain the decision. Any decision.That fact alone creates the perception that one club or another (usually the one you support.) is getting shafted. Perception is everything. Yes explanations would help, but consistency would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Another factor you forgot to mention was whether they were able to board a train at Rugby without buying a ticket in an attempt to fare dodge!! But when a diligent train guard then catches them in the act then you've got something concrete to pin on them. Inconsistent decisions with a lack of explanations and a perception of favouritism isn't so easy to prove. They are the mafia of the sport. Everyone knows that they are as dodgy as hell but no-one has enough on them to stop them from carrying on and getting away with more of the same in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 SCB has summed this situation up perfectly, it's a complete common sense decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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