Birmingham Brummies 2017 Hat Trick

[arnieg]

Don't think you can really say Zach 'switched', he was British under 16 champion (250cc class) in 2013.

[Sings4Speedway]

Don't think you can really say Zach 'switched', he was British under 16 champion (250cc class) in 2013.

Good point. I was actually scratching for positive examples. Didn't include Shanes either as he wasn't a huge success straight away. I guess Tom Perry, Joe Haines, Adam Wrathall & Josh Auty were the last code switchers of note?

[Guest GiveusaB]

Birmingham Brummies will be league champions until we decide we dont want to be ...

What a load of sh#te ! You're making us sound like Poole fans !

And we all know what people think of them !?

 

We've just got a good race track for young riders to develop on and a very good manager in GD !

 

I couldnt give a toss if we won the league or not, I'm just grateful that we have speedway racing in Birmingham!

Edited December 6, 2016 by GiveusaB

[*JJ]

The Woodhulls (twins) looked very impressive at Scunthorpe the other week.

[Dandelion]

The Woodhulls (twins) looked very impressive at Scunthorpe the other week.

Aren't they only like 14?

[*JJ]

Aren't they only like 14?

I don't know ... if they are, they are very good indeed.

[Dandelion]

They are very good, I do agree

[Jayne]

Aren't they only like 14?

no they are 15 and will be in the NL in 2017

[Heathen1984]

They signed for buxton then jayne??

[Islander15]

Drury says he'll be losing '3, potentially even 4' of the 2016 Brummies. One is Perry but the other 2 look like Wajtknecht and Ritchings. So it should be JPB, Smith, Hume and Bacon plus 3 more. I wouldn't be surprised if the one he's undecided on is Bacon because he did so well last year there looks to be the least room for average improvement from him.

[Nathan Mole]

No, Smith should be at Belle Vue if they are running as his family have alot of history their

[gee jay]

No, Smith should be at Belle Vue if they are running as his family have alot of history their

but i thought that last year and he signed for the brummies then.

[Nathan Mole]

Most likely had already signed for Brum before Belle Vue confirmed their place in the NL, so felt he had to be loyal to his contract

[Heathen1984]

Smith wont be at brummies next season I dont think thats why I think they are after greenwood!

[uk_martin]

Now that Lakeside have dropped down into the NL, have they had to relinquish all their riding assets like Birmingham did? If so, is Zach Wajtknecht a free agent again? i.e. NOT under any priority obligation to ride for Lakeside? Would he still be an option for the Brummies on his newly reduced average, I wonder? There's certainly some "unfinished business" to be tidied up I think.

[Islander15]

Now that Lakeside have dropped down into the NL, have they had to relinquish all their riding assets like Birmingham did? If so, is Zach Wajtknecht a free agent again? i.e. NOT under any priority obligation to ride for Lakeside? Would he still be an option for the Brummies on his newly reduced average, I wonder? There's certainly some "unfinished business" to be tidied up I think.

Assets don't really have an obligation to ride for their side and what reduced average are you referring to?

[Nathan Mole]

A team keeps the assets they had, they just cant sign any new assets

[uk_martin]

Assets don't really have an obligation to ride for their side and what reduced average are you referring to?

 

He started 2016 on 9.91 and ended it on 8.59

 

A team keeps the assets they had, they just cant sign any new assets

 

I'm sure I read something by Brian Buck that said that Birmingham were made to forfeit the assets that they had ...

 

Edit - found it

 

 

 

Theoretically, they will, but I would expect them to either come to some kind of arrangement with another club to "keep" their assets for them, or else they would "cash them in" as it were.

 

Birmingham were deprived of the admittedly few assets that they held, when the Brummies dropped down to the National League in 2015 and were also not allowed to retain the four riders who were signed on at the start of the 2015 season when the "no assets" rule was introduced.

Edited December 14, 2016 by uk martin

[Hunters]

As I recall the Lakeside licence is only on hold for a year which implies they keep their assets until next years AGM when they may return to the Senior Leagues. If they don't return then they would lose them and come under NL rules of no assets, which is what happened with Eastbourne. I do not recall all the details but I believe Birmingham did not consider a return and simply folded, subsequently deciding to enter the NL.

The Brum supporters should have a better memory of this than me.

 

The whole concept of no assets for NL is so wrong to me. There are already 17 of last years NL riders In this years Championship and 6 in the Premiership of which just 3 are double up's between the two. Therefore 20 in all (so far) allowing those leagues to replace expensive foreign imports and reducing their cost base.

 

The NL clubs get no compensation for the efforts and cash they have put in to bring most of these lads on, even though they often struggle to keep their own heads above water.

 

Time I think for the NL to get their own Mike Parker and do their own thing, I helped him at Hackney and he would not have put up with it..

[teaboy279]

Pretty sure when Brum folded all thier assets went to the bspa.

When James Shanes signed for Kent both the bspa and Poole referred to kent as his parent club, so not sure what the assets situation is.

I know there is no legal way that assets can be stripped without compensation being paid, so we have to assume the rule applied to new assets. Clubs dropping down have chosen to do so, so may have to sign over thier assets as a condition of joining the league. Although it's anyone's guess, as I have spoken to a promoters and managers and no one is 100 percent certain.