Gemini Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Who is Dick? Tom and Harry's brother? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 He won't have that average for long though, so expect some early changes from the Robins. Shrewd IMO... Not if talks true that once teams are made up to 50 for original team building, a different average is brought in for team changes. If true then I think that's a great idea to stop manipulation of the rules 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Not if talks true that once teams are made up to 50 for original team building, a different average is brought in for team changes. If true then I think that's a great idea to stop manipulation of the rules Why is it manipulation of the rules? Saddling someone with a 13+ average is just plain stupid and no one could ever achieve that since 12 is a 4 ride max! I think it is fair to say that Swindon won't finish with their starting 7 and I have no problem with that because the riders they will have will be a strong force! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Not if talks true that once teams are made up to 50 for original team building, a different average is brought in for team changes. If true then I think that's a great idea to stop manipulation of the rules This would be another rule that would need great thought. To speculate, say they lowered the average to 45, then a say 10 point rider was genuinely injured. Would they have to replace him with a 5 ? I know it's not so simple as that as averages are a minefield, but it is one scenario that could arise. Swindon have stuck with their contracted rider exactly as Poole have done - with Hans (unofficially)!! Hardly a like for like comparison Skidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 He won't have that average for long though, so expect some early changes from the Robins. Shrewd IMO... Loving the avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) The principle is the same Baz. I wasn't arguing abilities. What I think is a bit silly is lots of fans thinking the 50 point limit will remain after the first set of official new averages. Bearing in mind these BSPA changes have been made primarily to save money (again) and to bring the leagues closer together in abilities, then anyone believing that teams will strengthen by bringing in some top averaged foreign riders is in cloud cuckoo land imo. Yes I'm sure there will be team changes but any single rider change (through injury or whatever) will be done on a like for like average as at present. If teams look to make multiple changes all at once then the new team building average will come into play. What nobody knows at the moment (including the BSPA probably) is what that new team average will be. If the BSPA are consistent than the Prem limit will drop to the Championship level of 40 points. Alternatively they could look at all the Championship averages after the first set of new figures and set the Premiership figure equivalent to the highest Championship team figure, or similar. eg if the best Champ team has increased its team average from 40 up to say 43, then 43 becomes the new reduced Prem average down from 50?! The sooner BSPA clarify that the better for everyone so that more argument and debate may ensue!!! Edited November 12, 2016 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The principle is the same Baz. I wasn't arguing abilities. What I think is a bit silly is lots of fans thinking the 50 point limit will remain after the first set of official new averages. Bearing in mind these BSPA changes have been made primarily to save money (again) and to bring the leagues closer together in abilities, then anyone believing that teams will strengthen by bringing in some top averaged foreign riders is in cloud cuckoo land imo. Yes I'm sure there will be team changes but any single rider change (through injury or whatever) will be done on a like for like average as at present. If teams look to make multiple changes all at once then the new team building average will come into play. What nobody knows at the moment (including the BSPA probably) is what that new team average will be. If the BSPA are consistent than the Prem limit will drop to the Championship level of 40 points. Alternatively they could look at all the Championship averages after the first set of new figures and set the Premiership figure equivalent to the highest Championship team figure, or similar. eg if the best Champ team has increased its team average from 40 up to say 43, then 43 becomes the new reduced Prem average down from 50?! The sooner BSPA clarify that the better for everyone so that more argument and debate may ensue!!! I don't believe that has ever happened before the avergae limit has stayed the same throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I don't believe that has ever happened before the avergae limit has stayed the same throughout the season. The only way that the team total could stay at 50 points would be if Premiership averages were multiplied by 1.4 throughout the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The only way that the team total could stay at 50 points would be if Premiership averages were multiplied by 1.4 throughout the season. Seems the most sensible option IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Robert72 - it is a disgrace what you said about Darcy. Don't feed him. Edited November 12, 2016 by tyretrax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 You trying to be clever or just want to post in utter bad taste? Dick. Speaking of which how's Starman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Speaking of which how's Starman Why what do you know that i don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) what do you know that i don't know. Quite a lot, I imagine. Edited November 12, 2016 by Nellie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I don't believe that has ever happened before the avergae limit has stayed the same throughout the season.But they haven't ever applied this x 1.4 before. The logical thing is that limit us dropped to 43 after first set of greensheets and the new averages used force declarations. The other rule I would suggest is that the exemption to points limit if replacing a rider with a lower averaged rider be removed, so any changes must still remain within the 43 points. What this means is on average every team shedding 15% off their averages - so Doyle averaging 11+ would be doing his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Tom and Harry's brother? Possibly. So are there only 3 DICKS on this forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Robert72 - it is a disgrace what you said about Darcy. So it's a disgrace to say ricky ashworth deserves to be looked after more than someone who can afford a house on the Gold Coast and a luxury holiday to vegas, I think it's a disgrace people like you would prefer to support a foreigner over a brit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 The heavily disabled young man who gave his future and freedom away for our sport. Dick. He didnt do it for the sport!! He did it because he found something he was good at and someone who pay him to do it.. Dick He didnt do it for the sport!! He did it because he found something he was good at and someone who would pay him to do it.. Dick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 He didnt do it for the sport!! He did it because he found something he was good at and someone who pay him to do it.. Dick What a nasty pig you are. I found a career that I am very good at and somebody to pay me to do it too. I still give 110% percent. Darcy gave far more to the sport than he took from it, and in the end the sport took from him everything he had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 What a nasty pig you are. I found a career that I am very good at and somebody to pay me to do it too. I still give 110% percent. Darcy gave far more to the sport than he took from it, and in the end the sport took from him everything he had. You talk as if DW died, maybe you should take a look at alex zanardi and what he has done since his horrific accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 You talk as if DW died, maybe you should take a look at alex zanardi and what he has done since his horrific accident. No I talk as if Darcy can't even play on a games console anymore. The poor guy went from traveling the world and making big money to being able to do f*ck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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