Mikebendone Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 you need to take it up with them directly then keep it off the forum as anyone can read this all be it a new supporter if it is god help them this place can be ruthless.. Dont let it spoil the sport you enjoy in Plymouth and the new promotion.. I would guess the people involved with those things are no longer involved.. I dont live in Plymouth any more but had my hand in when i was there defending the in-defensible as in Mr Bowden.. all these things you mention about are nothing to with the new promotion or the people involved with the running of it.. would it be easier to say ( and i know nothing of it so excuse me ) all the money has gone... all the promises have gone... people lied to you.. again i dont know anything of what went on and what was said.. but if you take worst case understand that then move on.. is it that easy ? Once again I say that the out standing feelings are not with the promoters,supporters who put money in buckets ,who gave money monthly ,who helped in many ways .with out closure of these matters will they put there hand in there pockets again to help (it is that easy those who know of the facts of all the money collected in just say how it was spent) CLOSURE it is that easy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Once again I say that the out standing feelings are not with the promoters,supporters who put money in buckets ,who gave money monthly ,who helped in many ways .with out closure of these matters will they put there hand in there pockets again to help (it is that easy those who know of the facts of all the money collected in just say how it was spent) CLOSURE it is that easy!! i would bet my last pound it was wasted.. or it filled the gap between gate money and paying the riders which they didnt do that fully.. i would imagine you will never get a full answer as to where it went and i would bet lies would still be forthcoming.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyham Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 This situation will never be solved one way or the other. Why? Because you have two parties and you have the followers of those two parties. Each will not have a bad word said against the person that they believe is speaking the facts, (rightly or wrongly). Where monitory sums are concerned everyone steps on very thin ice as no matter what one says the other will question it, (again rightly, or wrongly). But most important of all in saying things of a monetary foundation you are laying yourself open to legal proceedings. You will never know or find out everything that you may desire, as every time a so called fact is stated someone will always question it, as there is always two sides to every coin, (pardon the pun). There are so many stories of the past that even if the truth stood up and hit us in the face it would still be questioned. As has been said the new era and new future is ahead of Speedway in Plymouth, and if one thing is certain the people in charge know a hell of a lot more than any of us keyboard political boffins, as to who to trust and what to trust and to defend their interests towards the future. As painful as it may be to all concerned if involved in the past or as an onlooker, the past is the past, there will always be rumour and speculation, that will never go away, Hell will freeze over first. Only we can make the difference and box the past and shelve it for the benefit of Plymouth Speedway of the future. It takes a better and stronger person to accept the situation knowing there may never be answers to certain things and move on. And for the benefit of Plymouth Speedway that is the only path that is open and clear if speedway is to remain in Plymouth and let the pain of the past die once and for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebendone Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 This situation will never be solved one way or the other. Why? Because you have two parties and you have the followers of those two parties. Each will not have a bad word said against the person that they believe is speaking the facts, (rightly or wrongly). Where monitory sums are concerned everyone steps on very thin ice as no matter what one says the other will question it, (again rightly, or wrongly). But most important of all in saying things of a monetary foundation you are laying yourself open to legal proceedings. You will never know or find out everything that you may desire, as every time a so called fact is stated someone will always question it, as there is always two sides to every coin, (pardon the pun). There are so many stories of the past that even if the truth stood up and hit us in the face it would still be questioned. As has been said the new era and new future is ahead of Speedway in Plymouth, and if one thing is certain the people in charge know a hell of a lot more than any of us keyboard political boffins, as to who to trust and what to trust and to defend their interests towards the future. As painful as it may be to all concerned if involved in the past or as an onlooker, the past is the past, there will always be rumour and speculation, that will never go away, Hell will freeze over first. Only we can make the difference and box the past and shelve it for the benefit of Plymouth Speedway of the future. It takes a better and stronger person to accept the situation knowing there may never be answers to certain things and move on. And for the benefit of Plymouth Speedway that is the only path that is open and clear if speedway is to remain in Plymouth and let the pain of the past die once and for all. Just sweep it under the carpet and forget about it,if that is the case then I feel that it would take a lot for me and others to put money in a bucket again. This matter is nothing to do with past promoters,they did not collect the money to save the Devils .The facts are out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 The questions re the collection for the air fence has already been answered months ago on the Proboards. No matter what is thrown at the Fanzone last year, without it we would have no future to discuss now. All the supporters contributions, events and commercial revenues were handed over to the then promotion. Regretfully there continues to be the same group of malcontents who cannot move forward and cowardly hide behind keyboards to snipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 One thing for certain last year no fanzone and we would not of rode last season so i applaud them for that anyways i think "no name"is correct time to "let it go"and get behind the new regime👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just sweep it under the carpet and forget about it,if that is the case then I feel that it would take a lot for me and others to put money in a bucket again. This matter is nothing to do with past promoters,they did not collect the money to save the Devils .The facts are out there? Dear Mikebendone, and all other likeminded supporters, we hope you enjoy the spectacle that the new promotion will be showing you this season and beyond, although there seems to be some discontent within the followers, we hope you are able to join in the fun. As New promoters, we felt we needed some support and have received support, there was no "buckets " of cash to collect and we have to move forward . If you feel you would like to assist please do so, if you feel you don't want to assist that is also fine , we are starting on the back foot, and realise this will be the season that we need to show our abilities to enable Plymouth Speedway to thrive in the future. We look forward to seeing all of you on our first meeting on the 14th of April. Hopefully As well as good Friday we hope it will be a GREAT Friday.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 This evening I have had a long conversation with Ashley Taylor. In order to clarify, all moneys from the Fanzone were paid into the Penninsula Promotions Ltd account to maintain operations or payments to guest riders for fees . As stated before, the monies collected for the air fence are held by the Fanzone until clarification of ownership is complete. We are hoping that will then be able to clear this amount to be paid into the new fence fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 This evening I have had a long conversation with Ashley Taylor. In order to clarify, all moneys from the Fanzone were paid into the Penninsula Promotions Ltd account to maintain operations or payments to guest riders for fees . As stated before, the monies collected for the air fence are held by the Fanzone until clarification of ownership is complete. We are hoping that will then be able to clear this amount to be paid into the new fence fund. Thats good that monies raised last season by the fanzone will also help towards the new airfence this season highlighting how invaluable their efforts were and those fans who supported them in all the fund raising events they organised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Thats good that monies raised last season by the fanzone will also help towards the new airfence this season highlighting how invaluable their efforts were and those fans who supported them in all the fund raising events they organised. I think to clarify further , It is possible that there may be monies owed for the previous old (slashed) airfence, if so ,the fanzone are looking to award the money to that person, if however the "old" airfence was donated to Plymouth Devils then the airfence collection 2016 can be given towards the New 2017 Plymouth Devils Airfence Fund. #### How devishly awkward #### 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebendone Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think to clarify further , It is possible that there may be monies owed for the previous old (slashed) airfence, if so ,the fanzone are looking to award the money to that person, if however the "old" airfence was donated to Plymouth Devils then the airfence collection 2016 can be given towards the New 2017 Plymouth Devils Airfence Fund. #### How devishly awkward #### Just got back in from a meeting,thank you Mark now that the facts are there on the matter of the air fence money (for me this matter is now closed) I will be following the Devils at home and away for the 2017. So look forward to seeing you at meetings. All the very best wishes to the new promoters and the team for 2017. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks Mike, Delighted that you remain a Devil. I sincerely hope you have a great time at the SBA and your journeys away are safe and trouble free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 culd be a good idea to have a word with Brian ANNEAR at ST BLAZY MOTORCYCLES ABOUT HOW HE WAS ABLE TO TAKE 1/2 PAGE ADVERTS IN DAILY MIRROR BY PLAYING THE ADVERTISING DEPARTMENT, HE TOOK THE PART OF THE PAGE THEY HADNT SOLD AT PREMIUM RATES THE DAY BEFIRE PUBLICATION AND SO THEY DIDNT HAVE A BLANK SPACE ON THE PAGE THINGS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 pardon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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roguetrader Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Surely Plymouth have missed a trick by losing Matt Bates to Eastbourne. I know points limits are just that but in terms of putting together a balanced side you have to think they have got this wrong. Maybe time will tell. Will be interesting to see who the 7th rider is on Friday. I suspect Plymouth will have a long tail..... Still great to still have them in the League still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Surely Plymouth have missed a trick by losing Matt Bates to Eastbourne. I know points limits are just that but in terms of putting together a balanced side you have to think they have got this wrong. Maybe time will tell. Will be interesting to see who the 7th rider is on Friday. I suspect Plymouth will have a long tail..... Still great to still have them in the League still. If they'd have signed him though, what 7 pointer is out there to effectively replace Compton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 If they'd have signed him though, what 7 pointer is out there to effectively replace Compton? To replace Compton? Reckon my Nan would do a similar job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebendone Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 To replace Compton? Reckon my Nan would do a similar job Not long to find out now,just over a week and the first meeting.I look forward to the first home and away meeting. What every they do, lets try and support speedway at the SBA win or lose. The promoters have given us the track and new air fence,The SBA looks clean an tidy,so all we need now is good dry weather and supporters to come and watch. Best of luck to the team for 2017. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Rob Parker is signed. So the Devils will always have 2 useful reserves with a superb number 1, even if the 2-5 looks suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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