daveallan81 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 A few more than I'd hoped for unfortunately. 12/04 Southampton v Barry Briggs' Team (Challenge) 43-47 I have a note saying it was Bjorn Knuttson's team squaring up to Briggo's bunch, not Southampton. I also have a result of a 47-43 win for the 'home' team. Southampton programme says 43-47 to Briggs. Confirm the home team name and the result. 14/06 Norwich v Swindon (National League) Postponed Reason for cancellation. 23/06 Eastbourne Cavalcade of Sport - Best pairs won by Trigg (Roy?) and Dugard (Bobby?) Confirm meeting title and winners' forenames. 17/08 Coventry v Southampton (National League) 43-33 I have a note that says this score was amended from 43-35. Confirm that this was the case. 20/08 St. Austell Provincial Riders Championship QR Winner: Cliff Cox Confirm Cox as winner. 31/08 Norwich Festival of Speed Best Pairs event I have three pairs all finishing on 10 points - Nygren & Hedge, Teodorowicz & Trott and Betts & Gooch. Was a winner declared? 04/09 Norwich v Swindon (National League) Postponed rain - not restaged The Norwich file on Speedway Researcher reads "This League fixture was left outstanding when season ended – some have credited Norwich with a walk-over victory & two points for it". The Swindon file states "This League fixture was left outstanding when season ended". SGB website table gives Norwich the league points, but I'd like to confirm that this was indeed the case. 21/09 Belle Vue v Parker's Team (Challenge) 29-49 I've got one note that says it was Jack's team, and another that says it was Mike's. Which one is correct? 24/09 Southampton v Provincial League Select (Challenge) Postponed - rain Confirm date and cancellation. 07/10 Exeter v Tommy Sweetman's Select (Challenge) 40-38 Scheduled to be Wolverhampton but 3 Wolves riders wouldn't ride. What was the reason for this? Weymouth home fixtures (general) I have 4 matches tagged as Southern Area League fixtures - 14/06 Eastbourne, 21/06 New Cross 'B', 26/07 Rye House and 23/08 Hackney. I can't find any other S.A.L. matches staged anywhere. Are these matches just challenges? I also need to confirm this match: 16/08 v Southern Stars and the result 42-36. Individual Events 15/06 Cradley Heath World Championship QR Ivor Brown/Maury Mattingley 21/08 Hackney Provincial Riders Championship QR Ray Cresp/Norman Hunter 24/08 Cradley Heath Provincial Riders Championship QR Ray Cresp/Eric Boocock Were any of these ties settled by run-offs or any other means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 12/04 Bjorn Knuts(s)on's Team 47 Barry Briggs's Team 43, confirmed by my programme and as reported in Speedway Star. 23/06 The Eastbourne meeting was 'The Best Pairs Championship' run as part of a Cavalcade of Sport. Speedway Star confirmed that Bobby (Bob) Dugard and Roy Trigg were the winners, scoring 12 and 2 respectively. 17/08 After New Cross closed, Stan Stevens rode for Southampton at Coventry and scored 2 points. He should not have ridden for Southampton and so his two points were later deducted from the result. 20/08 St. Austell Provincial Riders Championship QR Winner: Cliff Cox Confirm Cox as winner. 20/08 The Researcher website shows Squibb with 13 points and Julian with 11, probably based on the heat details published in Speedway Star. This would be the result of Julian beating Squibb in heat 19, which I think was an error in the Star. However, the Star match report and scorechart states that Squibb scored 14 and Julian 10 and I believe this is correct. There was no run-off for first place and Speedway Star recorded that 'Jimmy Squibb and Cliff Cox were in devastating form to win ..... with 14 points each'. So, there were joint winners, both with 14 points. 31/08 Norwich Festival of Speed Best Pairs event I have three pairs all finishing on 10 points - Nygren & Hedge, Teodorowicz & Trott and Betts & Gooch. Was a winner declared? 31/08 My programme does not record a run-off or other declaration of placings. Speedway Star reported that three pairs all finished level with 10 points, with no winners identified. 21/09 Belle Vue v Parker's Team (Challenge) 29-49 I've got one note that says it was Jack's team, and another that says it was Mike's. Which one is correct? 21/09 My programme indicates that it was Belle Vue v Mike Parker's Select, a team comprising riders from the Provincial League. 24/09 Speedway Star reported the following week that the meeting between Southampton and a 'Pick of the Provincial League' team was rained off. 07/10 Exeter v Tommy Sweetman's Select (Challenge) 40-38 Scheduled to be Wolverhampton but 3 Wolves riders wouldn't ride. What was the reason for this? Wolverhampton won at Exeter in September and a 'revenge' challenge was arranged for 07/10. However, it was reported that 3 Wolves riders decided at the last minute to decline the extra booking and so the opposition became the Tommy Sweetman Select. Rick France, Cyril Francis and Dave Hemus were the missing riders. Weymouth home fixtures (general) I have 4 matches tagged as Southern Area League fixtures - 14/06 Eastbourne, 21/06 New Cross 'B', 26/07 Rye House and 23/08 Hackney. I can't find any other S.A.L. matches staged anywhere. Are these matches just challenges? I also need to confirm this match: 16/08 v Southern Stars and the result 42-36. Weymouth - The programmes and the prior advertisements for these meetings confirm they were all challenge matches. The Southern Area League reference crops up in the Speedway Star results and would have been an error, perhaps by a occasional reporter used to reporting on the Southern Area League in previous years. My programme and the Speedway Star match report confirms that the score on 16/08 was Weymouth 42 Southern Stars 36. Southern Stars included Roy Trigg, Pete Smith and Pete Munday. Individual Events 15/06 Cradley Heath World Championship QR Ivor Brown/Maury Mattingley 21/08 Hackney Provincial Riders Championship QR Ray Cresp/Norman Hunter 24/08 Cradley Heath Provincial Riders Championship QR Ray Cresp/Eric Boocock Were any of these ties settled by run-offs or any other means? I can confirm from my programmes that Brown and Mattingley shared 1st place on 15/06, Cresp and Boccock shared 1st place on 24/08 and Cresp and Hunter did likewise on 21/08, with no deciding race or other method used to split them. Speedway Star confirmed this in the following weeks' reports. Edited November 6, 2016 by BL65 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) It's like being on Speedway Updates only it's 1963! Great work as always, many thanks. Regarding the tied individual meetings, do you concur that Rick France beat Colin Pratt in a run-off for the PLRCQR at Wolverhampton 23/08? Edit to add: Can you confirm these race points for the Northern League, I haven't been able to locate a final table. Edinburgh 260 - 208 Middlesbrough 223 - 242 Newcastle 203 - 261 Sheffield 245 - 220 Edited November 6, 2016 by daveallan81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 It's like being on Speedway Updates only it's 1963! Great work as always, many thanks. Regarding the tied individual meetings, do you concur that Rick France beat Colin Pratt in a run-off for the PLRCQR at Wolverhampton 23/08? Yes, Rick beat Colin in a run off, in a time of 70.6 according to my programme. This was the first meeting at Monmore after the main stand was destroyed by fire, to be subsequently replaced by the structure that overlooks the home straight today. It seemed in those days that it was left to the home promoter to decide whether or not to stage a run-off in the event of a tie for first place. I will have a look to see if I have any information relating to the two Norwich-Swindon queries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) It's like being on Speedway Updates only it's 1963! Great work as always, many thanks. Regarding the tied individual meetings, do you concur that Rick France beat Colin Pratt in a run-off for the PLRCQR at Wolverhampton 23/08? Edit to add: Can you confirm these race points for the Northern League, I haven't been able to locate a final table. Edinburgh 260 - 208 Middlesbrough 223 - 242 Newcastle 203 - 261 Sheffield 245 - 220 Confirmed. The final table, with one point for a match win, half a point for a draw, a point for an aggregate win and half a point for an aggregate tie, was: Sheffield 6 meetings won 4 drew 0 lost 2 Pts 6.5 (245-220) Edinburgh 6 3 1 2 6 (260-208) Middlesbrough 6 2 0 4 3 (223-242) Newcastle 6 2 1 3 2.5 (203-261) The Midland and Southern Leagues also used one point for a win and a bonus point for an aggregate win. Edited November 6, 2016 by BL65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) The Norwich v Swindon meeting scheduled for 14th June 1963 was still being advertised in the programme for the previous Norwich meeting on 8th June. However, at some point after the date the programme for the 8th was printed the Swindon meeting was cancelled and no programme was produced. I presume the cancellation was due to rider unavailability. The Norwich programme for the meeting on 5th October 1963 reported that 'Saturday next sees the final meeting of the season...... Apart from the league match against Swindon, there will be the Kings of Oxford Trophy....' However, the meeting which took place on 12th October was Norwich v The Rest, followed by the Kings of Oxford Trophy. As the Norwich team and track was available, I believe that Norwich were awarded the points as Swindon were unable to complete the fixture. Edited November 7, 2016 by BL65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 A slightly different timeline in the Swindon programmes: 25/5 has the fixture in place for Friday 14th, 8/6 has the fixture now moved to Wednesday 12th, and 15/6 sees it gone completely. The 1/6 programme (v Southampton) may reveal the reason for the initial switch but I agree it looks like an availability issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 A slightly different timeline in the Swindon programmes: 25/5 has the fixture in place for Friday 14th, 8/6 has the fixture now moved to Wednesday 12th, and 15/6 sees it gone completely. The 1/6 programme (v Southampton) may reveal the reason for the initial switch but I agree it looks like an availability issue. Speedway Star 08/06 and 15/06 (which covered the period including 12/06 and 14/06) did not list the meeting in the 'It's a date' fixture list, neither was it included in Philip Rising's 'The week ahead' preview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hi Can I add the following queries to this topic. All are Southampton based. I am after heat details for the following meetings - Challenge Southampton v Provincial League Select on 11th June World Championship Qualifier on 2nd July World Championship Round ? on 23rd July Pride of the South on 27th August Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hi Can I add the following queries to this topic. All are Southampton based. I am after heat details for the following meetings - Challenge Southampton v Provincial League Select on 11th June World Championship Qualifier on 2nd July World Championship Round ? on 23rd July Pride of the South on 27th August Thanks I have sent heat results via email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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