waiheke1 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 But you can put together a good 40 point team that is better than a poor 50 point team. Bjerre batch sclein Klindt b kurtz 2x2 pointers Vs R worrall garritty b pedersen fricke howarth sarjeant 2 pointer. Both teams built close to the limit. are you saying that 2nd team is guaranteed to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 But you can put together a good 40 point team that is better than a poor 50 point team. Bjerre batch sclein Klindt b kurtz 2x2 pointers Vs R worrall garritty b pedersen fricke howarth sarjeant 2 pointer. Both teams built close to the limit. are you saying that 2nd team is guaranteed to win? I think it's clear what I'm saying. A 2nd tier team won't beat a 1st team tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yes it would. A Prem team is basically a Champ team anyway apart from 1 rider. Every season we have the same topic brought up and it's often the same outcome if inter league matches happen. No doubt we will revisit this when the championship team get stuffed home and away in the relegation meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Steve I would normally agree. and the premises sidecwould start as favourites. BUT look at those sides I built. AND in fact swap fricke and 2pter for summers and Wilkinson. ONE SIDE built to 40 one to 50, and I reckon the first one is stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 The leagues are getting closer and closer, it won't be too long before a good second division team is able to beat a poor top tier one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Just wondering what happens in the play off between the bottom Premiership Team and the top Championship Team if there is a rider or riders who ride for both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Just wondering what happens in the play off between the bottom Premiership Team and the top Championship Team if there is a rider or riders who ride for both? All double-up riders are prioritised to one club, that situation will remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 All double-up riders are prioritised to one club, that situation will remain. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Steve I would normally agree. and the premises sidecwould start as favourites. BUT look at those sides I built. AND in fact swap fricke and 2pter for summers and Wilkinson. ONE SIDE built to 40 one to 50, and I reckon the first one is stronger. The sides you suggest do have an even look about them I agree. However I doubt a team would be built that poorly in the top flight (watch me be shown up on that one!). Everyone says how poor Leicester were this year yet beat the PL runners up Sheffield home AND away in inter league challenges earlier in the season. I will still maintain nothing will be different in 2017! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I wouldn't read too much into Inter League challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I wouldn't read too much into Inter League challenges. It just gives the kind of result I would expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sorry for bringing this topic back but I have a question and probably some important information I have missed. Lets take the scenario of the Swindon 2016 team vs the Somerset 2016 team or to make it less confusing, two double uppers from A Premiership team and the same team two from the Championship team. If the Premiership team come last and the Championship team are first, than who gets the priority of the two riders doubling up and down for the playoff match. If it goes on assets, what happens if both riders are non assets for both clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sorry for bringing this topic back but I have a question and probably some important information I have missed. Lets take the scenario of the Swindon 2016 team vs the Somerset 2016 team or to make it less confusing, two double uppers from A Premiership team and the same team two from the Championship team. If the Premiership team come last and the Championship team are first, than who gets the priority of the two riders doubling up and down for the playoff match. If it goes on assets, what happens if both riders are non assets for both clubs? Neil Watson mentioned this on the Coventry thread - Priority will be with the 'owning' Club, secondly to the rider's Club in the previous season, or finally to the Club from the 'owning' League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 @ Complete waste of time in my opinion as the Championship team won't want to move up and although the league's are closer there is no way a Premiership team should lose to a lower league team over two legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Neil Watson mentioned this on the Coventry thread - Priority will be with the 'owning' Club, secondly to the rider's Club in the previous season, or finally to the Club from the 'owning' League. i also read somewhere( believe it was on the Wolves thread) that when it comes to the play offs, the rider would ride for which ever team he had made the most appearances for that season( which does sort of make sense). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 i also read somewhere( believe it was on the Wolves thread) that when it comes to the play offs, the rider would ride for which ever team he had made the most appearances for that season( which does sort of make sense). Yes that was mentioned also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) And if a team does not accept it's fate will the BSPA put their foot down with a firm hand and impose discipline on the miscreant? For what it's worth, the last time there was a play-off (Wolves and Edinburgh) the same question was raised and CVS said categorically that if Wolves lost they would accept their fate and go down, despite much preferring to run in the top tier. I accept that the relevant team strengths at the time were far wider than they are now (I think Wolves gave their No.8 four rides in the away leg) so Wolves were overwhelming favourites and also appreciate that next year's second-tier champions, if not wanting elevation, might not be, shall we say, overly fired up for the two legs. But it's an answer, of sorts, to your question. And surely the issue would have been raised at the AGM in the first place? Edited December 8, 2016 by Fourentee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 For what it's worth, the last time there was a play-off (Wolves and Edinburgh) the same question was raised and CVS said categorically that if Wolves lost they would accept their fate and go down, despite much preferring to run in the top tier. I accept that the relevant team strengths at the time were far wider than they are now (I think Wolves gave their No.8 four rides in the away leg) so Wolves were overwhelming favourites and also appreciate that next year's second-tier champions, if not wanting elevation, might not be, shall we say, overly fired up for the two legs. But it's an answer, of sorts, to your question. And surely the issue would have been raised at the AGM in the first place? CVS confirmed all clubs are committed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Promotion and relegation between the top leagues will never work unless it is very, very lucrative to be in the top division and that is never going to happen in speedway unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Chris Louis has stated the Ippo side has been put together specifically to win the Championship so that they can operate at the top level in 2018. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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