Hunters Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 When this was being discussed on the kent site a couple of weeks ago, a few of us thought it was 31st July, but Connor Dugard posted saying the end of August. If that is so then Joe Jacobs is indeed the answer. Without a club and on his web site last week says he is anxious to get a new team place. I would imagine Connor knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Jacobs got given a new Championship average of like 4.6 something. So his NL average is double tha as his 8.63 NL average isn't current (it was attained in 2015). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Jacobs got given a new Championship average of like 4.6 something. So his NL average is double tha as his 8.63 NL average isn't current (it was attained in 2015). That does not leave many options then, perhaps Greaves or Bailey whose championship clubs do not ride at home on Saturday. An outside chance is to get Danny Spiller back for a couple of months now exam time is over. Only 6.6 but probably improved by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Unfortunately think it'll be guests or r/r with the limited options,and reckon if Cradley don't make the playoffs,Danny Ayres will become a 'regular'if we get to the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 As I understand it the cut off is only the late September date for completed matches to determine the play off competitors. At the last main AGM there was a new rule introduced stating that there could be no re- declarations after July 31st . (I believe this was to stop some of the former Elite short term manipulations for the play off's Hancock/Poole, Woffendon/Wolves Etc. I don't recall any announcement relating to the NL but I think they are operating to it. Jayne at Buxton will know more than me so she might give us an informed answer if we ask her kindly. As you asked so nicely The cut off was originally the 31st July in line with the other leagues but it has reverted to the 28th August to take effect for the 31st August. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 i'm sure i've read in the s/star in the last few weeks that spiller has chosen to represent germany so wouldn't that now prevent him riding N.L. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 As you asked so nicely The cut off was originally the 31st July in line with the other leagues but it has reverted to the 28th August to take effect for the 31st August. Thank you Jayne it is nice to know there is someone on the inside who is happy to communicate with us. No doubt why so many want to see Buxton do well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Unfortunately think it'll be guests or r/r with the limited options,and reckon if Cradley don't make the playoffs,Danny Ayres will become a 'regular'if we get to the finals. So Danny Ayres gets 2 cracks at winning the league ??? What a farce ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 So Danny Ayres gets 2 cracks at winning the league ??? What a farce ! I suppose similar to Shanes and Davey last year for Birmingham, had a second chance to help win the league. Happens all the time in all leagues every year,right or wrong. Actually having brought up Shanes, maybe he would be willing ride in the nl again for the rest of the season. Think he'd fit average wise but grass track/long track commitments could be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 With fixtures coming up does anyone have or heard of any dates for the kent match the NL one as that will be important to both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 With fixtures coming up does anyone have or heard of any dates for the kent match the NL one as that will be important to both sides. The way they are getting behind on fixtures it would not surprise me if they made the Kent NL and NT a double header as they did with Mildenhall in 2015. If I remember rightly they charged £18. That should mean an attractive day out for a lot of Kent fans. With 30 heats, a decent size crowd and good atmosphere, plus two very close matches judging by the KO cup not so long ago. What more can a true speedway fan ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 The NT match is now the 26th Aug, with the NL one as you say on the 16th Sept.They always try to avoid double headers if possible,and as its a bank holiday weekend wonder if Eastie have any grass track clashes with some of their riders,hence leaving the more important league match to the 16th when they have a full team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 The NT match is now the 26th Aug, with the NL one as you say on the 16th Sept.They always try to avoid double headers if possible,and as its a bank holiday weekend wonder if Eastie have any grass track clashes with some of their riders,hence leaving the more important league match to the 16th when they have a full team. Playing devils advocate here but at this stage of the season why is the NL meeting more important? Wouldn't Eastbourne take satisfaction out of knocking their local rivals out of a trophy competition that if the result goes Kent's way at Arlington then they'll probably win the whole thing. Plus seeing as Eastbourne will make the play-offs regardless of the league fixture result and if they slip up and Kent make the play-offs too it could make for 2 very attractive meetings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Playing devils advocate here but at this stage of the season why is the NL meeting more important? Wouldn't Eastbourne take satisfaction out of knocking their local rivals out of a trophy competition that if the result goes Kent's way at Arlington then they'll probably win the whole thing. Plus seeing as Eastbourne will make the play-offs regardless of the league fixture result and if they slip up and Kent make the play-offs too it could make for 2 very attractive meetings! I suppose one they have a chance of winning, the other no chance, but I'm sure Eastie won't want to lose their unbeaten home record this year especially to Kent even if it's in the NT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 The NT match is now the 26th Aug, with the NL one as you say on the 16th Sept.They always try to avoid double headers if possible,and as its a bank holiday weekend wonder if Eastie have any grass track clashes with some of their riders,hence leaving the more important league match to the 16th when they have a full team. Well it looks like they will have no choice but a double header because they are riding every Saturday from next week until cut off date which I believe is Sept 25th. We still have to fit in the rained off fixture with IOW. It seemed logic to me to make it Kent for the obvious reasons rather than two different teams. The only reserved date is Sept 30th if they extend the deadline but if that fixture is not met in time it could make the difference between finishing 1st or 2nd and having choice of Semi opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Well it looks like they will have no choice but a double header because they are riding every Saturday from next week until cut off date which I believe is Sept 25th. We still have to fit in the rained off fixture with IOW. It seemed logic to me to make it Kent for the obvious reasons rather than two different teams. The only reserved date is Sept 30th if they extend the deadline but if that fixture is not met in time it could make the difference between finishing 1st or 2nd and having choice of Semi opponents. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Isle of Wight fixture at the end of October when the play-offs and cups are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised to see the Isle of Wight fixture at the end of October when the play-offs and cups are done. You could be right, I still think BV will come top anyway, so wouldn't make any difference if Eastie come 2nd/3rd or 4th, as BV will probably not pick us in the semi's anyway. It still annoys me every year that we get to this point and already are worrying about getting fixtures in having had so few over the summer. Got all the KO cup fixtures, playoffs to fit in, only takes a wet September/October, and we'll be keeping fingers crossed that the 31st October is dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 You could be right, I still think BV will come top anyway, so wouldn't make any difference if Eastie come 2nd/3rd or 4th, as BV will probably not pick us in the semi's anyway. It still annoys me every year that we get to this point and already are worrying about getting fixtures in having had so few over the summer. Got all the KO cup fixtures, playoffs to fit in, only takes a wet September/October, and we'll be keeping fingers crossed that the 31st October is dry. It annoys me as well but lots of clubs end up in the same situation every year! Yet others never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Two Saturdays are ruled out in August because of stocks cars at the stadium. Also, you wouldn't want to run on the third Saturday of the month because it is Eastbourne air show today. Chaos across a wide area around the resort this morning and will be even worse when it ends. Such traffic jams would put people off from going to speedway and many fans could well be down at the seafront, in any case. Use an occasional Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 So why where not the Good Friday challenges against Lakeside League Matches? They often were in the Elite days. Stock cars have always been there and in Elite days they had either 14 or 16 home matches plus a KO Cup or two before the end of September. This year we have only 10 NL plus 2 NT and 1KO over the same period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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