mdmc82 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) * means each teams required min 2 Brits BELLE VUE ACES 1. Kenneth Bjerre. 9.12 2. Craig Cook* 8.65 3. Max Fricke. 7.25 2. Steve Worrall*. 6.93 3. Rohan Tungate. 4.68 6. Dan Bewley 4.50* 7. Jack Smith 2.05* Total: 43.16 4 Brits KINGS LYNN 1. Troy Batchelor. 7.93 2. Robert Lambert*. (d/u) 7.46 3. Chris Holder. 7.27 4. Kai Huckenbeck 6.17 5. Tomas Jorgensen. 6.08 6. Lewis Rose*. 5.33 7. Simon Lambert* 3.00 Total: 43.24 3 Brits LEICESTER 1. Kim Nilsson. 8.17 2. Danny King*. 6.40 3. Jason Garrity*. 6.00 4. Lasse Bjerre. 5.33 5. Josh Bates* 5.33 6. Kyle Newman* 5.26 7. Erik Riss. 5.07 Total: 41.56 POOLE PIRATES 1. Brady Kurtz. 8.91 2. Hans Andersen 8.29 3. Grzegorz Zengota 7.79 4. Nicholai Klindt. 6.26 5. Jack Holder (d/u). 5.64 6. Paul Starke*. 4.21 7. James Shanes*. 2.11 43.31 2 Brits RYE HOUSE 1. Chris Harris 8.00 2. Scott Nicholls*. 7.33 3. Ben Barker*. 7.21 4. Ricky Well. 6.42 5. Justin Sedgman 5.48 6. Stuart Robson*. 5.36 7. Robert Branford. 3.15 Total: 42.95 5 Brits SOMERSET 1. Richard Lawson. 7.80 2. Josh Grajczonek. (d/u). 7.43 3. Michael Palm Toft. 6.33 4. Charles Wright (d/u) 6.17 5. Cameron Heeps. 5.53 6. Jake Allen 4.93 7. Lewis Kerr. 4.53 42.72 5 Brits SWINDON 1. Jason Doyle. 9.66 2. Nick Morris 9.18 3. David Bellego 7.02 4. Bradley Wilson Dean (d/u) 4.38 5. Dany Gappmaier. 4.00 6. Adam Ellis. 3.80 7. Zach Wajtknecht. 2.94 Total: 40.98 3 Brits WOLVERHAMPTON 1. Freddie Lindgren 10.45 2. Jacob Thorssell. 8.60 3. Rory Schlein. 8.29 4. Sam Masters (d/u) 8.08 4. Adam Skornicki. 7.22 5. Kyle Howarth* (d/u). 6.47 6. Mark Riss. 4.34 7. Nathan Greaves*. 2.25 Total 48.48 3 Brits included 2 D/U rider Edited July 1, 2017 by mdmc82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 According to BSPA site, Doyle is in at Swindon. No mention of average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 According to BSPA site, Doyle is in at Swindon. No mention of average.13.41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 According to BSPA site, Doyle is in at Swindon. No mention of average. Thanks 👍🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Not sure the Doyle thing will happen. Can't see the top GP guys wanting to ride in such a diluted league, and using 25% of the team points one one rider makes teams ridiculously top heavy. Also don't buy the argument of waiting one month until the first Green Sheets, if it is a month, as (a) I'm sure there will be a plan to prevent that, and ( how many riders are going to wait a month for a team place, have to play 'catch up' and may still not be accommodated if the averages don't fit. Is anyone clear on doubling up? Is it allowed? What about foreign riders? Guessing previous will have their average factored up by 1.4, but what about 'new' overseas riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregoryM Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Not sure the Doyle thing will happen. Can't see the top GP guys wanting to ride in such a diluted league, and using 25% of the team points one one rider makes teams ridiculously top heavy. Also don't buy the argument of waiting one month until the first Green Sheets, if it is a month, as (a) I'm sure there will be a plan to prevent that, and ( how many riders are going to wait a month for a team place, have to play 'catch up' and may still not be accommodated if the averages don't fit. Is anyone clear on doubling up? Is it allowed? What about foreign riders? Guessing previous will have their average factored up by 1.4, but what about 'new' overseas riders? That's a very good question as there doesn't seem to be anything about it in yesterday's BSPA release (or did I miss it?). If it does continue then what will be criteria for deciding where the rider rides in the event of fixture clashes. And with the Promotion / Relegation decider at the end of the season, we could well see one club having 'Billy Blogs' in their team whilst the other club has a guest for the very same 'Billy Blogs'. Now that would look rather silly...but then, this is speedway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 That's a very good question as there doesn't seem to be anything about it in yesterday's BSPA release (or did I miss it?). If it does continue then what will be criteria for deciding where the rider rides in the event of fixture clashes. And with the Promotion / Relegation decider at the end of the season, we could well see one club having 'Billy Blogs' in their team whilst the other club has a guest for the very same 'Billy Blogs'. Now that would look rather silly...but then, this is speedway!! As was mentioned on SGB twitter yesterday 'Billy Blogs' would ride for the team or league for which he's an asset. That presumes that doubling up/down will still be allowed?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Not sure the Doyle thing will happen. Can't see the top GP guys wanting to ride in such a diluted league, and using 25% of the team points one one rider makes teams ridiculously top heavy. Also don't buy the argument of waiting one month until the first Green Sheets, if it is a month, as (a) I'm sure there will be a plan to prevent that, and ( how many riders are going to wait a month for a team place, have to play 'catch up' and may still not be accommodated if the averages don't fit. Is anyone clear on doubling up? Is it allowed? What about foreign riders? Guessing previous will have their average factored up by 1.4, but what about 'new' overseas riders? Signed and sealed according to his Twitter, gutted as I wanted him back at Somerset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Not sure the Doyle thing will happen. Can't see the top GP guys wanting to ride in such a diluted league, and using 25% of the team points one one rider makes teams ridiculously top heavy. Also don't buy the argument of waiting one month until the first Green Sheets, if it is a month, as (a) I'm sure there will be a plan to prevent that, and ( how many riders are going to wait a month for a team place, have to play 'catch up' and may still not be accommodated if the averages don't fit. Is anyone clear on doubling up? Is it allowed? What about foreign riders? Guessing previous will have their average factored up by 1.4, but what about 'new' overseas riders? If he's signed a contract on the same points money or better than last year he'd be foolish not to ride in what is a weaker league where he will undoubtedly clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Not sure the Doyle thing will happen. Can't see the top GP guys wanting to ride in such a diluted league, and using 25% of the team points one one rider makes teams ridiculously top heavy. Also don't buy the argument of waiting one month until the first Green Sheets, if it is a month, as (a) I'm sure there will be a plan to prevent that, and ( how many riders are going to wait a month for a team place, have to play 'catch up' and may still not be accommodated if the averages don't fit. Is anyone clear on doubling up? Is it allowed? What about foreign riders? Guessing previous will have their average factored up by 1.4, but what about 'new' overseas riders? Tbf in the mid 80s Oxford would have used 25% of their team building allowance on Hans, and it worked out ok for them. And that was before the introduction of the nominated heat, which means a star number one is more valuable as they can take 5 rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) AS BSPA have released the final averages for the year, here's the EL converted averages. Remember these are not valid if the rider has a PL average. Surname Forenames Club/s Effective Converted Doyle Jason Swindon 9.58 13.412 Iversen Neils KingsLynn 9.04 12.656 Holder Chris Poole 8.95 12.53 Jonsson Andreas Lakeside 8.45 11.83 Kasprzak Krzysztof Coventry 7.91 11.074 Zagar Matej BelleVue 7.48 10.472 Cook Craig BelleVue 7.37 10.318 King Danny Coventry 7.22 10.108 Lindgren Fredrik Wolverhampton 7.21 10.094 Masters Sam Wolverhampton 7.18 10.052 Kennett Eddie Lakeside 7.16 10.024 Andersen Hans Poole 7.15 10.01 Fricke Max BelleVue 7.08 9.912 Lambert Robert KingsLynn 7.08 9.912 Thorsell Jacob Wolverhampton 7.06 9.884 Worrinden Tai Wolverhampton 7.03 9.842 Lindback Antonio Poole 7 9.8 Pedersen Bjarne Poole 6.91 9.674 Nilsson Kim Lakeside 6.88 9.632 Kylmakorpi Joonas Wolverhampton 6.68 9.352 Ulamek Sebastian Leicester 6.6 9.24 Nicholls Scott BelleVue 6.59 9.226 Harris Chris Coventry 6.58 9.212 Kurtz Brady Poole 6.44 9.016 Morris Nick Swindon 6.41 8.974 Klindt Nicolai Leicester 6.36 8.904 BechJensen Mikkel Wolverhampton 6.26 8.764 Hougaard Patrick Leicester 6.22 8.708 Bridger Lewis Lakeside 6.09 8.526 Tungate Rohan Swindon 6.05 8.47 Korneliussen Mads KingsLynn 6.04 8.456 Buczkowski Krzysztof Poole 6.02 8.428 Garrity Jason Coventry 6 8.4 Worrall Steve BelleVue 5.95 8.33 Grajczonek Josh Swindon 5.95 8.33 Wozniak Swymon Leicester 5.91 8.274 Karlsson Peter Wolverhampton 5.91 8.274 Lawson Richard Lakeside 5.83 8.162 Worrall Richie BelleVue 5.82 8.148 Ellis Adam Poole 5.6 7.84 Newman Kyle Poole 5.52 7.728 Lambert Simon KingsLynn 5.47 7.658 Walasek Gregorz Leicester 5.45 7.63 Sedgmen Justin Swindon 5.43 7.602 Watt Davey Poole/Leicester 5.4 7.56 Batchelor Troy KingsLynn 5.26 7.364 Swiderski Piotr Lakeside 5.2 7.28 Jacobs Joe BelleVue 5.14 7.196 Howarth Kyle Wolverhampton 5.13 7.182 Schlein Rory KingsLynn 5.12 7.168 Rose Lewis KingsLynn 5 7 Porsing Nikolas KingsLynn 4.99 6.986 Starke Paul Leicester 4.94 6.916 Auty Josh Leicester 4.9 6.86 Wright Charles Swindon 4.84 6.776 Kerr Lewis Lakeside 4.8 6.72 Roynon Adam Coventry 4.8 6.72 Bates Josh Coventry 4.76 6.664 Summers Aaaron Leicester 4.69 6.566 Woryna Kacper Coventry 4.65 6.51 Barker Ben Coventry 4.54 6.356 Clegg Max Wolverhampton 4.15 5.81 BuskJacobsen Nicolai KingsLynn 4.15 5.81 Sarjeant James Coventry 3.81 5.334 Huckenbeck Kai KingsLynn 3.67 5.138 Nielsen Stefan Swindon 3.67 5.138 Mear Robert Lakeside 3.65 5.11 Wilkinson Carl KingsLynn 3.47 4.858 Branford Robert Lakeside 3 4.2 Lindgren Ludvig Leicester 3 4.2 Morley Ben Lakeside 3 4.2 Morris Ashley Wolverhampton 3 4.2 Edited November 8, 2016 by Col 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Jack Holder confirmed for Poole (7.16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Hans has announced he's at Poole next year. I will add him on to their team list. (10.01) Edited November 10, 2016 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Swindon Speedway @SwindonSpeedway SIGNING | We are delighted to welcome British youngster ADAM ELLIS to the Abbey for 2017! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wakey wakey, Nicholls for Rye House and Fast Freddie for Wolves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wakey wakey, Nicholls for Rye House and Fast Freddie for Wolves! Been working this morning so only just been on 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondGlory Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Davey Watt to Rye House, couldn't find his average, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Davey Watt to Rye House, couldn't find his average, sorry!7.56 I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 With the build up of teams now being weaker due to the inflated averages, you would have thought the admission would have been lower. However Rye House are charging more than some EL teams did last year before it was watered down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Most pl sides were charging only a couple of quid less than El sides last year. Going up to the new top flight it's not surprising if they increase prices, so for anyone to hl have expected an El price decrease is naive in the extreme. The weakening of the league is about cost cutting, reducing the price a couple of quid is just likely to see revenue drop as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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