Lakeside 2017

[waco]

Two Two thinking that myself ?

[NeilWatson]

Hurry 7.66

[Islander15]

If his average was set at 7.44 before the season and any team could have opted to try and utilise him on that figure, no one can complain.

But if i was to be neutral on this i would have to admit i would have assessed his realistic working average to be nearer the nine point mark, maybe 8.50 as a minimum.

Connor Dugard says he was told Hurry's average was much higher than that at the start of the season.

 

What injury has George Hunter sustained? Please advise.

It appears that Mason is wondering exactly the same (that's off Twitter for Gustix)!

 

Hurry 7.66

Are we going to get an explanation as to how that's been arrived at? It seems convenient that it's only a little bit more than the 7.44 hence dropping Hunter for a 3.00 rider accommodates the change. Edited May 26, 2017 by Islander15

[Dickie Head]

If Hunter has been binned, the IOW should dive in right away.

[Halifaxtiger]

 

Are we going to get an explanation as to how that's been arrived at? It seems convenient that it's only a little bit more than the 7.44 hence dropping Hunter for a 3.00 rider accommodates the change.

 

Its not so much a matter of what his average is but how they arrived at it.

 

Based upon his past EL plus amendment, 7.66 is a joke.

[Alex2000]

From the outside I think this has been handled really badly by lakeside never mind the fact hurry is no NL rider and is not going to develop in any way shape or form. Nothing against hurry but always been against him making a comeback just as the nl is becoming less stagnated.

[Islander15]

 

Its not so much a matter of what his average is but how they arrived at it.

 

Based upon his past EL plus amendment, 7.66 is a joke.

True, I just meant we've had no explanation of 7.44 let alone 7.66 and that figure just happens to fit with dropping Hunter to get Hurry in, now that people have complained at 7.44 being too low. Either/both averages need an explanation as they both seem figures plucked from nowhere.

[berniev123]

If the 7.66 is correct it is the joke of the year in Speedway terms.

 

Can someone now get Screeny, Hall, Stoney, Les Collins , Phil Collins to name but a few back in a 2017 team on the same figure????????????

The mighty Mark Robinson when he rode at #7 for Cradley in about 1990 had a 2.56 (approx.) average and was saddled with a 9 plus average in the 2011 NL and that stopped his comeback!

How about low ability foreigners on the same 7.66 or there about assessed average like Rye House did back in the day when they forced non British riders being allowed in our 2nd Division and started the rot?

I fear for the NL/CL as this could be the tipping point to a semi pro NL and a proper designated 3rd Division.

 

I could go on but...................I hope Cook and Tatum are proud of the professional 'cheating' that they are doing. Rant over, back to the side lines I go!

Edited May 26, 2017 by berniev123

[liam]

Don't see why any blame lays with Cook or Tatum for his average? Wasn't them that decided it.

[berniev123]

Don't see why any blame lays with Cook or Tatum for his average? Wasn't them that decided it.

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[liam]

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What professional cheating are they doing?

[marko]

From the outside I think this has been handled really badly by lakeside never mind the fact hurry is no NL rider and is not going to develop in any way shape or form. Nothing against hurry but always been against him making a comeback just as the nl is becoming less stagnated.

 

And Mason was? Hurry has far more to offer younger riders in terms of advice than career reserve Mason ever could.

 

And Liam your spot on, its not Lakeside who decided Paul's average, its the SCB, Lakeside merely are taking advantage of shall we say a judgement of error on the control boards part and if anyone thinks others clubs would not have done the same given the chance they are deluded because promoters are all as bad as each other when it comes to putting their club first.

 

I'm starting to understand how Poole fans feel now as every move they make is dissected under a microscope.

[liam]

If and I emphasise the word IF

 

If, Hurry was given a higher average pre-season (as quoted to other clubs) he surely cannot in the month of May have a lower average than that figure.

 

It defies commonsense for such a thing to happen.

 

Oh!!! It's speedway, I forgot.

Didn't Cook say the average agreed was 7.44 and that's why he is disappointed it's being pushed up?

[teaboy279]

Why when he has been told that Hurrys average dosent fit by the bspa, is he knowingly taking an illeagal team all the way to stoke when any points earn will get deducted anyway? Or the match referee will not allow him to ride.

[Islander15]

Why when he has been told that Hurrys average dosent fit by the bspa, is he knowingly taking an illeagal team all the way to stoke when any points earn will get deducted anyway? Or the match referee will not allow him to ride.

I fear that because this is the NL it'll get brushed under the carpet again. But for the integrity of the league, I hope not.

Edited May 26, 2017 by Islander15

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[marko]

I feel that Lakeside are determined one way or another to get Paul in even if it means releasing another rider on a temporary basis.

I don't think other clubs will be able to argue with that unless their gripe is about us replacing a forty something with another forty something.

[Loyal hammer]

Lakesides team is legal. Refer to the team declarations on the speedwaygb website. Hurry comes in on 7.66 and Spooner has been signed on a 3.00 to replace Hunter. Team under points limit.

[Halifaxtiger]

Don't see why any blame lays with Cook or Tatum for his average? Wasn't them that decided it.

 

You could say that they are trying to get a rider in on an average that is way below what it should be but essentially I agree.

 

If anyone is unhappy with that average (and plenty are) there is only the NL & the BSPA to blame.

 

I fear that because this is the NL it'll get brushed under the carpet again. But for the integrity of the league, I hope not.

 

That got blown apart with the Harland Cook decision, if it ever existed before hand.

 

I feel that Lakeside are determined one way or another to get Paul in even if it means releasing another rider on a temporary basis.

I don't think other clubs will be able to argue with that unless their gripe is about us replacing a forty something with another forty something.

 

I don't have an issue with a 40 year old riding with a young team. No-one says anything critical about Armstrong (quite the opposite, in fact, and rightly so).

 

Its about an average that makes no sense and which will not be explained or justified, so everyone has a right to believe that it is a crooked ruling covered up by secrecy.

Lakesides team is legal. Refer to the team declarations on the speedwaygb website. Hurry comes in on 7.66 and Spooner has been signed on a 3.00 to replace Hunter. Team under points limit.

 

Its only legal because the NL have ruled a 7.66 average.

 

How they have calculated that is anyone's guess, but it certainly bears no relation to his previous one and the usual method of conversion.

 

Legal maybe, but corrupt and crooked with it.

[Loyal hammer]

I appreciate its legal because of the averages Halifaxtiger but Lakeside haven't decided Paul Hurry's average. The authorities and the league coordinator are responsible for validating and verifying the averages. I enjoy reading your posts as i can see you're a fair minded fan, as am I, and even I'm hard pushed to fathom how 7.66 has been calculated but this is for Mr Morrish to clarify, not Cook.

Edited May 27, 2017 by Loyal hammer