Ben91 Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I don't think it was ever out of the long grass, but if people are going to seriously talk about David Mason then Leigh Lanham is a far better bet, to do exactly the same sort of job only better ( that is better but stil boring). The punters are not going to come through the turnstiles to so some 40 year old, pop out the gate and trundle round the white line like a mobile road block. We need some young blood with the talent to improve not get worse. No more talk of David Mason please, don't even joke about it. Under 25's only. You can't fit Lanham in now. However if you'd signed Lanham instead of Morley for example you'd have a better rider on a lower average, Lanham averaged 4.34 in the Premier League last season compared to Morley's 3.85 while Lanham's NL average would be 8.68 compared to Morley's 9.22. This would also leave more points to play with lower down the order meaning David Mason's name wouldn't even be in the frame. As a standalone NL club you have to look to win, not solely develop riders. With Wajtknecht, Bowtell and Hunter, plus whoever the two reserves may be there will be plenty of younger riders at Lakeside next year, one older rider leading from the front would only be a help to the younger team members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Who will the punters come through the turnstiles to see? I think Lanham would do a decent job.I know what you are saying. I agree he would put points on the board but every lap would be the same, round the white line on the bend, drift out to the fence on the straight to stop the outside run then back to the white line on the next bend. It is sooooo boring. Mason would be even worse. I just feel they need riders who are prepared to grab a handful of throttle and go for it even if they fall off in the process, as long as they gradually learn to stay on and improve over the season, which they should under Kelvins guidance.. Edited December 31, 2016 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I know what you are saying. I agree he would put points on the board but every lap would be the same, round the white line on the bend, drift out to the fence on the straight to stop the outside run then back to the white line on the next bend. It is sooooo boring. Mason would be even worse. I just feel they need riders who are prepared to grab a handful of throttle and go for it even if they fall off in the process, as long as they gradually learn to stay on and improve over the season, which they should under Kelvins guidance..Iam not sure what the standard is like now if Iam being honest but all I would like to see is four riders racing and not falling off. If the racing is good that's what will make people go, when I watched it last time I didn't enjoy the standard of racing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I would rather us sign riders under 25 or riders with a total of less than 8 years experience in the sport, i would not able to support a David Mason esk type of signing, its goes against the spirit of the Division. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 NL speedway is by far the most entertaining you will not be disappointed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 NL speedway is by far the most entertaining you will not be disappointed Have to agree, A little bit slower yes & some will fall off a few times. Just give it time & those who were falling off slowly will get quicker & stop on for longer as the season goes on.Watching a young rider improve week on week in front of you must be just as rewarding as watching 4 riders going flat out following each other evenly spaced apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Quite agree EIA. Like it or not the NL is essentially a training league and since the rules have been tightened it has started producing lots of good quality two and three pointers for the PL (Championship). I would like to see over a period of time older riders phased out so that eventually each team has just one 'old hand' and six youngsters, six riders who have the potential to ride at a higher level. I think NL matches are more attractive with more exciting teenage talent in the two sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Have to agree, A little bit slower yes & some will fall off a few times. Just give it time & those who were falling off slowly will get quicker & stop on for longer as the season goes on.Watching a young rider improve week on week in front of you must be just as rewarding as watching 4 riders going flat out following each other evenly spaced apart. Agree as well. I'm an EL snob by nature however I've seen some very entertaining meetings in the NL over the past 2 seasons, primarily at Birmingham. Likewise amateur and MDL standard racing has its moments also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARRYH Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I have seen a few of you mention Shane. Just to let you all know Shane has made the decision not to start the season as he is not healed enough to hand on heart say he will be ready for start of season. He plans to get on a bike when his broken leg has healed totaly and take it from there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 All the best to Shane for a full recovery,,very sensible giving things time to be fully healed before riding again.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ben Morley is riding in the Rob Woffinden memorial meeting this coming saturday in Australia ,,Good luck Ben and stay safe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Next signing announced tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I'm looking forward to this should make for some interesting reading tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I'm looking forward to this should make for some interesting reading tomorrow Take a guess then Alex 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Would like Stoneman,,but I have feeling it may be Mason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thats magic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thats magic!!don't you mean tragic!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Quite agree EIA. Like it or not the NL is essentially a training league and since the rules have been tightened it has started producing lots of good quality two and three pointers for the PL (Championship). I would like to see over a period of time older riders phased out so that eventually each team has just one 'old hand' and six youngsters, six riders who have the potential to ride at a higher level. I think NL matches are more attractive with more exciting teenage talent in the two sides. Quite agree EIA. Like it or not the NL is essentially a training league and since the rules have been tightened it has started producing lots of good quality two and three pointers for the PL (Championship). I would like to see over a period of time older riders phased out so that eventually each team has just one 'old hand' and six youngsters, six riders who have the potential to ride at a higher level. I think NL matches are more attractive with more exciting teenage talent in the two sides. In an ideal world one old hand & six younger riders? Don't think that would be possible, yes some younger riders but, no all of the older guys have had the breaks to make a step up or didn't start young. A general mix is the way it is & i think will always be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 In an ideal world one old hand & six younger riders? Don't think that would be possible, yes some younger riders but, no all of the older guys have had the breaks to make a step up or didn't start young. A general mix is the way it is & i think will always be that way. But if a bloke has been riding 20 years and is not only still in the bottom league but on the way down as well, (as in the case of Davd Mason ) it's difficult to see what he can offer, and more importantly how many punters he is likely to pull through the turnstiles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 My guess and it's educated is D_ _ _ _ M_ _ _ _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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