Najjer Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Not much to discuss at the moment I think Chris tbh. The team is pretty much what I think most of us expected. Shame no BWD at reserve tho, I think he will find it hard in Swindons top five. I'm following Rohan in Aus to keep me interested as I'm bored silly with Belle Vue and Coventry, and the handbags on the Poole thread. Poole remind me of West Ham FC supporters, fighting each other lol. Or just fighting Starman - Although I think that goes for nearly every team in the Country! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Not much to discuss at the moment I think Chris tbh. The team is pretty much what I think most of us expected. Shame no BWD at reserve tho, I think he will find it hard in Swindons top five. I'm following Rohan in Aus to keep me interested as I'm bored silly with Belle Vue and Coventry, and the handbags on the Poole thread. Poole remind me of West Ham FC supporters, fighting each other lol. Better get used to it. Worst thing Somerset did was to join the Elite League or whatever it's called now. They must be mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Come on all you Rebels supporters - now we are in the top division we need plenty of activity on this forum. My biggest disappointment is the selection Graveson for 2017 I can't see Garys thinking behind that one - time will tell!! quiet without me , innit ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Better get used to it. Worst thing Somerset did was to join the Elite League or whatever it's called now. They must be mad. No Gemini, with Rye House moving up, and Plymouth moving down, they would have been mad to stay in a league where there nearest opponent would have been Peterborough, and every away fixture would have required a huge amount of travelling and the related cost, where virtually every opponent, bar Peterborough & Ipswich are based in the northern half of the country. A league where the prospect of any amount decent away support, in terms of numbers, would have been virtually zero. Moving to the Premiership has not only seen the massive travelling cost reduced, but has brought the prospect of relatively local derbies with Swindon & Poole, with at least 4 or more meetings per season, where the away support should be much more than they have seen at anytime in their years, since 2000, in the Premier & Conference leagues. granted there will be some increased cost from riders wages, but the club has always managed this well in the past, so I would expect that to continue. So no, I can't agree that they are mad to be taking the step up, as the way I see it, there was little left, by the way of financial viability for the club, to stay in the Championship, quite the opposite I'd say. Ask Glasgow why they haven't taken the step up, I think you'll find that had they moved up, they would have been in a similar situation to Somerset, had the Rebels stayed put in the Championship Edited January 11, 2017 by womble53 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 No Gemini, with Rye House moving up, and Plymouth moving down, they would have been mad to stay in a league where there nearest opponent would have been Peterborough, and every away fixture would have required a huge amount of travelling and the related cost, where virtually every opponent, bar Peterborough & Ipswich are based in the northern half of the country. A league where the prospect of any amount decent away support, in terms of numbers, would have been virtually zero. Moving to the Premiership has not only seen the massive travelling cost reduced, but has brought the prospect of relatively local derbies with Swindon & Poole, with at least 4 or more meetings per season, where the away support should be much more than they have seen at anytime in their years, since 2000, in the Premier & Conference leagues. granted there will be some increased cost from riders wages, but the club has always managed this well in the past, so I would expect that to continue. So no, I can't agree that they are mad to be taking the step up, as the way I see it, there was little left, by the way of financial viability for the club, to stay in the Championship, quite the opposite I'd say. Ask Glasgow why they haven't taken the step up, I think you'll find that had they moved up, they would have been in a similar situation to Somerset, had the Rebels stated put in the Championship However if at the end of 2017 Glasgow get promoted & Somerset get relegated, in 2018 both clubs will have the issues of no local derbies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 No Gemini, with Rye House moving up, and Plymouth moving down, they would have been mad to stay in a league where there nearest opponent would have been Peterborough, and every away fixture would have required a huge amount of travelling and the related cost, where virtually every opponent, bar Peterborough & Ipswich are based in the northern half of the country. A league where the prospect of any amount decent away support, in terms of numbers, would have been virtually zero. Okay fair enough as I didn't think of the other teams involved, just what a mess the E.L. is in at the moment. Anyway. I hope it all works out well for Somerset. Have loved visiting there in the past ~ great track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 However if at the end of 2017 Glasgow get promoted & Somerset get relegated, in 2018 both clubs will have the issues of no local derbies!Assuming Glasgow win the league and Somerset were to finish bottom of the Prem, the Rebels current line up would make a mess of Glasgows current team in any sort of play off situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Okay fair enough as I didn't think of the other teams involved, just what a mess the E.L. is in at the moment. Anyway. I hope it all works out well for Somerset. Have loved visiting there in the past ~ great track. British speedway is in a mess, not one league. Do you not follow what the issues other leagues have? Berwick have been struggling for a few seasons, Workington owners have said crowds are an issue, Plymouth have struggled and withdrawn from 2nd tier, national league struggles to complete all fixtures on a virtual annual basis. Yea, it's all the fault of the top flight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 ........stevebrum........Do you not follow what the issues other leagues have? No not really, apart from the occasional look at Peterborough threads as they are the nearest lower division team to me and where I'm more likely to go. I still think the E.L. has been in a bigger mess this close season than any of the others, with doubt about running of almost half of last year's teams. Thankfully Leicester seem to be sorted, although no idea who will be in the team and Belle Vue will hopefully have good news this week, which leaves Coventry ~ heaven knows what's happening with them. At least Swindon have the old stadium to use this year should the new one not materialize. I can't remember saying it was all the fault of the top flight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 No not really, apart from the occasional look at Peterborough threads as they are the nearest lower division team to me and where I'm more likely to go. I still think the E.L. has been in a bigger mess this close season than any of the others, with doubt about running of almost half of last year's teams. Thankfully Leicester seem to be sorted, although no idea who will be in the team and Belle Vue will hopefully have good news this week, which leaves Coventry ~ heaven knows what's happening with them. At least Swindon have the old stadium to use this year should the new one not materialize. I can't remember saying it was all the fault of the top flight though. Peterborough another team that has had lots of issues! You only mentioned the EL (top flight) so I assumed you only meant that that was a issue. Plymouth even started and nearly closed early part of 2016 so there are lots of problems at all levels. It doesn't matter which league has the most problems. What we know is that several clubs throughout the sport have struggled for a few seasons and throughout this close season. For every success story like Rye House or Glasgow there is one in trouble like Leicester or Plymouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Assuming Glasgow win the league and Somerset were to finish bottom of the Prem, the Rebels current line up would make a mess of Glasgows current team in any sort of play off situation. is that because somerset are built to a 50 point limit and glasgow are stuck on the 40 point max . so yes , only one winner there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Tungates current form in oz must be a concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 is that because somerset are built to a 50 point limit and glasgow are stuck on the 40 point max . so yes , only one winner there . Yes correct Jenga, so how would the line ups be sorted for a play off. is that because somerset are built to a 50 point limit and glasgow are stuck on the 40 point max . so yes , only one winner there . Yes correct Jenga, so how would the line ups be sorted for a play off.Tungates current form in oz must be a concernYeah not having a good time at the moment. Still he started slowly last term as well, before really being on it for the second half of the season. Agree though that your number one needs to be on it from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Tungates current form in oz must be a concern Not really - The liklihood is he's riding something that's all abit makeshift so it is what it is. No concerns here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Tungates current form in oz must be a concern "Rohan Tungate 3, D, 2, 3, 3 = 11 Tungate a big off in turn four on lap one after he was leading." in the B final. Not the right outcome but hardly a disaster (as long as he is okay that is). Courtesy of Speedway Updates. What a plonker. Read on a Leicester thread that JS was leading the championship. Lost my link to the Updates site, did a search, clicked on a link. There it was, JS in the lead. Only last year though!!!!! Edited January 11, 2017 by Willowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Yes correct Jenga, so how would the line ups be sorted for a play off. Yes correct Jenga, so how would the line ups be sorted for a play off. Yeah not having a good time at the moment. Still he started slowly last term as well, before really being on it for the second half of the season. Agree though that your number one needs to be on it from the start. Not really - The liklihood is he's riding something that's all abit makeshift so it is what it is. No concerns here. Fair enough at least you guys can actually answer without resorting to a slanging match. On the Poole thread ive remarked how the defending champion is having a poor time of things and basically been shouted down that he isnt but thats the Poole fans for you, your not allowed an opinion lol "Rohan Tungate 3, D, 2, 3, 3 = 11 Tungate a big off in turn four on lap one after he was leading." in the B final. Not the right outcome but hardly a disaster (as long as he is okay that is). Courtesy of Speedway Updates. When was that? He scored 10 in round one and has been off the pace the next 2 rounds. What meeting you looking at? Edited January 11, 2017 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Fair enough at least you guys can actually answer without resorting to a slanging match. On the Poole thread ive remarked how the defending champion is having a poor time of things and basically been shouted down that he isnt but thats the Poole fans for you, your not allowed an opinion lol When was that? He scored 10 in round one and has been off the pace the next 2 rounds. What meeting you looking at? The wrong one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 "Rohan Tungate 3, D, 2, 3, 3 = 11 Tungate a big off in turn four on lap one after he was leading." in the B final. Not the right outcome but hardly a disaster (as long as he is okay that is). Courtesy of Speedway Updates. What a plonker. Read on a Leicester thread that JS was leading the championship. Lost my link to the Updates site, did a search, clicked on a link. There it was, JS in the lead. Only last year though!!!!! In todays meeting he only scored 6 points X,0,2,1,3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimli27 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Gavan i am a big Poole fan and agree with a lot you say and will debate with anybody can i pick on a little thing you on 821 that some Poole fans dont like you having an opinion not being picky mate but some of us are ok which you have said on the Poole thread whoops missed out the word wrote on my last thread before [on 821] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 To be fair to you Gavan the Poole fans your referring to are getting more and more jumpy about any comments, rather hilarious reading there retorts and if I'm being honest totally overreacting at almost anything they disagree with , it's the usual 2 suspects although they seem to have gained another disagreeable individual who used to be not at all blue tinted but has become more and more so recently!! Gave me grief for an off the cuff remark about someone brown nosing but just click the eejits on ignore now!! Talking of idiots what's happened to the turncoat troll lately? Under yet another alias or has it decided to 'support' someone else? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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