Daniel Smith Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Well how about people start debating rather than slating us off before a wheel is turned. It's their opinion to which they're entitled to. Also imo Somerset look dreadful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Haha i'm going to love us shutting a lot of you up next season especially Poole. What gives you the right to downgrade us before a wheel has even turned?Can't see somerset getting anywhere near poole with that line up Allen is probably the only decent signing. Should of got a 2.00 rider instead of graversen and used the 1.80 up on a number 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Hate to tell you this but Poole should wie te floor with this Somerset side. 60+ at Wimborne Road. Where are the heat winners going to come from? At Somerset obviously closer but no one to touch KK and the rest should enjoy the open spaces of the track, which they know well. One thing for sure. Two very big crowds. I do wish Gary May all the best but he will have his work cut out to avid humiliating thrashings on the road. If you want to believe that then fine. Think you will discover pretty quickly Poole on paper and on track are a far superior team. Struggling to see where Somerset will get heat advantages. Poole were supposed to wipe the floor with everyone last season were they not? How did that work out for you? Tungate has found a home at Somerset and there was a massive difference in him here. Grajczonek been a heat leader in the Elite so should be able to in a watered down league. Hougaard in a very poor Liecester side where the riders were clearly not happy, scored 16 on his last OTA visit. Starke easily capable of beating other second strings in the league. Wright same as Starke, keep in mind their partnership held them back as well. Allen best reserve in the league so far, yes better than Klindt too, if you disagree you clearly haven't seen him last season. Graversen yes we are all shocked but don't forget he is racing against 2.00 reserves. Edited December 5, 2016 by Brummie Rebel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Poole were supposed to wipe the floor with everyone last season were they not? How did that work out for you? Tungate has found a home at Somerset and there was a massive difference in him here. Grajczonek been a heat leader in the Elite so should be able to in a watered down league. Hougaard in a very poor Liecester side where the riders were clearly not happy, scored 16 on his last OTA visit. Starke easily capable of beauting other second strings in the league. Wright same as Starke, keep in mind their partnership held them back as well. Allen best reserve in the league so far, yes better than Klindt too, if you disagree you clearly haven't seen him last season. Graversen yes we are all shocked but don't forget he is racing against 2.00 reserves. Doesn't matter how you dress it up that team won't challenge Poole or even the old codgers at Rye House. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Poole were supposed to wipe the floor with everyone last season were they not? How did that work out for you? Tungate has found a home at Somerset and there was a massive difference in him here. Grajczonek been a heat leader in the Elite so should be able to in a watered down league. Hougaard in a very poor Liecester side where the riders were clearly not happy, scored 16 on his last OTA visit. Starke easily capable of beauting other second strings in the league. Wright same as Starke, keep in mind their partnership held them back as well. Allen best reserve in the league so far, yes better than Klindt too, if you disagree you clearly haven't seen him last season. Graversen yes we are all shocked but don't forget he is racing against 2.00 reserves. Graversen isn't racing against 2pts as there are no protected heats this year so will have races against heat leaders. Even when you look at him against most of the other reserves names so far this year he looks very weak e.g Bates, Klindt, Clegg, Sarjeant Edited December 5, 2016 by mdmc82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Riding in the EL last year for Swindon - Tungate was a late replacement for the absent Dakota North. He started poorly and was on the verge of being dropped but rode through this bad form at reserve and that was the catalyst he needed to raise his game. However both he and Josh G went missing more often than you would want or expect and now they are the top 2 in this team. While I like them both - Zummerzet will need a bucket load of luck next season. One thing that was consistent about the 2016 Roobins was their inconsistency and this was mainly down to these two riders. Poole and Rye House stand out from the rest. This isn't last years Elite League, not many teams will win at the OTA. All of the 2016 guys are formidable at home and all have experience away. . Not sure how many of 2016 Elite guys have done many laps at our place. Doyle, obviously . After that not sure. Lindgren and Andersen are quality I agree, but the rest of Poole and Wolves I'm not that impressed with tbh. For sure our guys need to be on it from the start as will all the teams, new league set up , step up in class for us, bring it on COYR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 People are doing just that. You got arsey with them. To be fair to Brummie Rebel there's not much 'debating' going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 a proper master stroke in signing jan graverson . rafa knopka is still looking for a premier club . well done gazza . cant be many more rabbits left in the hat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 To be fair to Brummie Rebel there's not much 'debating' going on No there isn't and i'm not getting arsey i'm sticking up for my team, that's what us Rebels do. I think there is a lot of potential in this side and personally Kasprzak apart not too far from the Poole side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbros Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think that both Somerset and Coventry are basically Championship sides. Somerset should be handy around the OTA as they have the basis of last seasons septet so they should be hard to beat at home. Allen starting at reserve is going to be a trump card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzAssStar Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Also imo Somerset look dreadful Sorry can't agree with you ................ they look far worse than that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 No there isn't and i'm not getting arsey i'm sticking up for my team, that's what us Rebels do. I think there is a lot of potential in this side and personally Kasprzak apart not too far from the Poole side. I think you must be dilussional if you think anybody will beat Poole to the league title at this stage of the game. For what it's worth I don't think we are going to be winning many trophies but I'm looking forward to some epic meetings at the Oak Tree with some of the top riders in the country visiting. I think we will take some beating at the OTA still, although may struggle at certain away tracks. Great news that we are away to Poole on good Friday, that's pencilled in the diary already. I think that both Somerset and Coventry are basically Championship sides. Somerset should be handy around the OTA as they have the basis of last seasons septet so they should be hard to beat at home. Allen starting at reserve is going to be a trump card. That is the big strong point with our side - that we will have a very handy reserve all season long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Hmm, I would have expected Somerset to put out a better line up tbh. They do know they have moved up a league, right? As for Chris Holder signing for them, not very likely with them being a Friday night track. Was more likely to be at KL imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 That's not a very good side. Fair play to Somerset assuming they've assembled it within their means however. I can see them being near the foot of the table though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 . Allen is better than Klindt trust me. I do agree that people are writing this team off unfairly and it isn't that bad. However your post is very optimistic and if your talking about Allen beating a rider who scored a 21 point maximum in the EL last year, I think you have stepped over the reality line into the fantasy zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Poole were supposed to wipe the floor with everyone last season were they not? How did that work out for you? Tungate has found a home at Somerset and there was a massive difference in him here. Grajczonek been a heat leader in the Elite so should be able to in a watered down league. Hougaard in a very poor Liecester side where the riders were clearly not happy, scored 16 on his last OTA visit. Starke easily capable of beating other second strings in the league. Wright same as Starke, keep in mind their partnership held them back as well. Allen best reserve in the league so far, yes better than Klindt too, if you disagree you clearly haven't seen him last season. Graversen yes we are all shocked but don't forget he is racing against 2.00 reserves. Tungate vs KK= KK easily everyday still a very good rider Grajczonek there is a reason why he doesn't ride for us vs Hans= Hans is still a much better rider Hougaard vs Kurtz= Good signing and will be there or there about vs Brady depends how Brady kicks on Starke vs Holder= Holder has 7.16 average for a reason and will have better gear Wright vs Newman= More times than not Newman wins Allen vs Klindt= Best reserve ahhahahahahaa where have you been. Klindt is on par with your third heat leader well they were last season Graversen vs Shanes= Yes you win than one but shanes will come for you. So its Poole 5, Rebels 1, Draw 1= Which to me equals a thrashing. No there isn't and i'm not getting arsey i'm sticking up for my team, that's what us Rebels do. I think there is a lot of potential in this side and personally Kasprzak apart not too far from the Poole side. There isn't a lot of potential they are all riders who have had there chance with bigger clubs, Josh G, Tungate, Wright and Starke and well none of them really made an effort and well every rider can chose where to ride in this day. To think you all thought you were getting Holder. You have 3 heat leaders who are the same as 1 heat leader and 2 2nd strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think you must be dilussional if you think anybody will beat Poole to the league title at this stage of the game. Didn't say that we were going to beat them to the title but I do not believe that we are going to get walked over at all. Kasprzak apart I do not think there is much between us. Take out Kasprzak and Tungate and the rest of the side is pretty similar. Andersen vs Grajczonek, Kurtz vs Hougaard, Holder vs Starke, Newman vs Wright, Klindt vs Allen and Shanes vs Graversen. I don't think there is that much between us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I do agree that people are writing this team off unfairly and it isn't that bad. However your post is very optimistic and if your talking about Allen beating a rider who scored a 21 point maximum in the EL last year, I think you have stepped over the reality line into the fantasy zone. I don't think there is much between them the difference is Allen is getting better and Klindt has found his level. Jake top scored for the Aussies at the U21 SWC ahead of both Kurtz and Jack Holder so he's no mug. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tungate vs KK= KK easily everyday still a very good rider Grajczonek there is a reason why he doesn't ride for us vs Hans= Hans is still a much better rider Hougaard vs Kurtz= Good signing and will be there or there about vs Brady depends how Brady kicks on Starke vs Holder= Holder has 7.16 average for a reason and will have better gear Wright vs Newman= More times than not Newman wins Allen vs Klindt= Best reserve ahhahahahahaa where have you been. Klindt is on par with your third heat leader well they were last season Graversen vs Shanes= Yes you win than one but shanes will come for you. So its Poole 5, Rebels 1, Draw 1= Which to me equals a thrashing. There isn't a lot of potential they are all riders who have had there chance with bigger clubs, Josh G, Tungate, Wright and Starke and well none of them really made an effort and well every rider can chose where to ride in this day. To think you all thought you were getting Holder. You have 3 heat leaders who are the same as 1 heat leader and 2 2nd strings. Rebel fans knew we wasn't getting Holder that was other people, we realise that because of GP meetings it was unrealistic. Don't forget this is a heavily watered down league. Hougaard is the key imo, Tungate is a different rider for Somerset and Grajczonek has the ability to be a third heat leader. Wright and Starke were held back by their partnership last season and still scored well. Allen was beating some heat leaders last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just looked at some of your team performances on up dates and you have a team of riders who all ride your track very well.Seeing as all the teams are loaded with last years Prem league riders i think you will be bloody hard to beat round your place.Tungate and Grajczonek ride your place far better than they do Swindon so i can see you winning most if not all your home meetings and if you can do that you will be nowhere near the bottom of the league. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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