Rye House 2017

[IronScorpion]

I think the next set are effective Monday August 7th comprising all meetings upto and including the Thursday before (August 3rd)

They include the previous Monday(31st), issued on the Thursday(3rd) & effective Monday(7th) every fortnight.

[NeilWatson]

No you can't.

 

Has to be top 3 scorer on match average.

Reserve can only come in for exclusion or injury.

 

15.14 TOP SCORERS HEAT (Heat 15 in all SGB League Competitions).

15.14.1 Gate Positions are determined by the outcome of the Coin Toss at the start of the Meeting.

15.14.2 The Home Team Manager nominates first, but once nominated these cannot be amended,

except by the Referee should the nomination not conform to the Regulations.

15.14.3 Nominations must be a qualified Rider, determined as either:

a) A Rider in the top 3 of that Meetings Team by current MA (NB. A Team missing one

of the top 3 and using the RR facility) may use the 4

th highest Rider by MA.

or

A Top 3 points scorer (counting the 4 x programmed rides only, including bonus

points) or if one of those top 3 points scorers has already taken 7 rides then the 4

th

highest points scorer becomes a qualified rider. (NB: No facility is available

allowing another rider to be elevated to the qualified list if any of those top 3 points

scorers are unavailable due to be withdrawn or has no equipment).

If a rider is disqualified for an offence under Art 15.3 the Team Manager may choose

either of the following options: -

i) The disqualified rider can start on a 15 metre handicap in c or d (The

opposing team does not change gate positions).

or

ii) Is replaced by a reserve who will start from the same gate position at the

tapes.

In a re-run of heat 15 a non-disqualified rider who is unable to take part may be replaced by a

reserve or another qualified rider.

A reserve CAN be nominated for Ht 15 as a highest scorer. That is confirmed in the rule you quote (15.14.3.b.) Edited July 29, 2017 by NeilWatson

[bigcatdiary]

Blimey!! Another rule I was unaware of. I'm sure there are plenty more.

Looking at the fixtures that's five meetings before the averages change

Their was a lot of changes to the rules this year, supporters can access and download them on the SCB website.

[NeilWatson]

Mondays on a fortnightly basis this season

And last season

 

Why not just have one rule for heat 15 ie put in who you want. Simple

The rule is designed to prevent a beaten team putting in their two lowest scorers.

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Edited July 29, 2017 by NeilWatson

[Lord Skid]

Wouldn't you just love being the other Reserve, knowing your partner is on about 500% more than you.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

They include the previous Monday(31st), issued on the Thursday(3rd) & effective Monday(7th) every fortnight.

cheers IS - I got close ☺

[Starman2006]

Even at reserve really!!!

Not the way he's been riding, no.

[Shadders]

Their was a lot of changes to the rules this year, supporters can access and download them on the SCB website.

...and risk a migraine headache? Pass

[hyderd]

what on earth is happening to British speedway, KK, sinking so low he should be totally ashamed of himself.

[stevebrum]

A reserve CAN be nominated for Ht 15 as a highest scorer. That is confirmed in the rule you quote (15.14.3.b.)

Thanks Neil.

So it would be the score from their 4 rides and not from extra rides that count?

[Blackadder]

I said in my first response to this comment that it's programmed rides only that count.

[NeilWatson]

Thanks Neil.

So it would be the score from their 4 rides and not from extra rides that count?

That's right.

 

If you look at the results sheets on the SGB website (I chose Ipswich v Edinburgh form Thursday, http://www.speedwaygb.co/17results/ipswich_27.07.17_res.pdf ) you can see how the referee checks the team managers' nominations. The red 'ST' column to the right of the scorecards shows the applicable score for Ht 15 nominations.

 

Ipswich made no changes, so their figures are easy to understand.

 

For example, King 3, 1', 3, 2 (four programmed rides) = 9+1 = 10 in ST column, his 5th ride being Ht 15. The same for Heeps, and the other five riders took only their four programmed rides.

 

For Edinburgh, Pickering took 6 rides. His four programmed rides (only three taken) are shown in black - 2, 0, RS, 1' = 4 as per the ST column. The three replacement rides are shown in red and count to his meeting score but not the ST score. So although Pickering was third highest scorer, he was not eligible for Ht 15 as the bulk of his points were scored in replacement rides.

 

If Gambo sees this thread I'm sure he can expand on this, as he wrote the spreadsheet!

Edited July 29, 2017 by NeilWatson

[stevebrum]

That's right.

If you look at the results sheets on the SGB website (I chose Ipswich v Edinburgh form Thursday, http://www.speedwaygb.co/17results/ipswich_27.07.17_res.pdf ) you can see how the referee checks the team managers' nominations. The red 'ST' column to the right of the scorecards shows the applicable score for Ht 15 nominations.

Ipswich made no changes, so their figures are easy to understand.

For example, King 3, 1', 3, 2 (four programmed rides) = 9+1 = 10 in ST column, his 5th ride being Ht 15. The same for Heeps, and the other five riders took only their four programmed rides.

For Edinburgh, Pickering took 6 rides. His four programmed rides (only three taken) are shown in black - 2, 0, RS, 1' = 4 as per the ST column. The three replacement rides are shown in red and count to his meeting score but not the ST score. So although Pickering was third highest scorer, he was not eligible for Ht 15 as the bulk of his points were scored in replacement rides.

If Gambo sees this thread I'm sure he can expand on this, as he wrote the spreadsheet!

Thanks Neil, it's nice to be properly educated about the rules.

[Starman2006]

what on earth is happening to British speedway, KK, sinking so low he should be totally ashamed of himself.

He should be, but i doubt he's even bothered.. He'l just have to ride on reserves money.

Edited July 29, 2017 by Starman2006

[GWC]

what on earth is happening to British speedway, KK, sinking so low he should be totally ashamed of himself.

Rye are a Premier team and I don't think British speedway is responsible for KK's poor form.

[Shadders]

Rye are a Premier team and I don't think British speedway is responsible for KK's poor form.

The responsibility lies solely on his shoulders. I wouldn't take any notice of the negative comments. Most supporters would love to have him at reserve. Whether he cuts the mustard we'll just have to wait and see

[stevebrum]

The responsibility lies solely on his shoulders. I wouldn't take any notice of the negative comments. Most supporters would love to have him at reserve. Whether he cuts the mustard we'll just have to wait and see

I wouldn't want him at Wolves in any capacity.

[Shadders]

I wouldn't want him at Wolves in any capacity.

Well I did say most 😂

[LisaColette]

I wouldn't want him at Wolves in any capacity.

We know!

 

KK's form for Poole could stop them from being in top 4 and his potential form for Rye could stop us being in the top 4!

[SteveLyric2]

That's one of the problems with how some rules are worded by the BSPA/SCB - they can be open to misinterpretation.

 

In this particular case why not have 'heat 15 to be contested by 2 of the top 4 or 5 scorers from each side, based on programmed rides'!? (If r/r or IRR in operation then the highest scoring reserve could be nominated).