Rye House 2017

[Shadders]

Agree Shadders, Cant say i've ever said ive enjoyed a speedway meeting/football match where my team has lost...

I can't watch any sport as a neutral and enjoy it. As I tell everyone, I'm not a speedway fan, I'm a Rye House fan.

[hammer1969]

I see Chris Harris has been called up for World Cup duty next Saturday, perhaps its's just as well we have no meetings for a few weeks as when we progress to the final , fingers and everything else crossed etc. etc. , sort of joking as a supporter I hope we do well. If the weathers good I may make the trip up to Kings Lynn. I expect Peterborough arent too happy though as he will miss their local derby with Ipswich next Sunday (rules are rules apparently).

[RPNY]

How do we all asses our first season in the op flight? From looking at the results and watching a fair few clips on youtube looks like its been preety good thus far. Would be better with an outright #1 of course. But on the whole seems ok.

[Najjer]

I can't watch any sport as a neutral and enjoy it. As I tell everyone, I'm not a speedway fan, I'm a Rye House fan.

 

I'm the same. I've not watched a single GP this year and not bothering with Cardiff this year either as regardless of atmosphere and occasion, it's not as good as watching my own team ride.

[Shadders]

I'm the same. I've not watched a single GP this year and not bothering with Cardiff this year either as regardless of atmosphere and occasion, it's not as good as watching my own team ride.

I only go to Cardiff for the social. Great chance to catch up with speedway buddies from all over the country. As for the event itself I can take it or leave it.

 

 

How do we all asses our first season in the op flight? From looking at the results and watching a fair few clips on youtube looks like its been preety good thus far. Would be better with an outright #1 of course. But on the whole seems ok.

I'd say ok is a measure of where we are so far. Of course an end of season push for the play offs is always a possibility, but with the team as it is I can't see us gaining enough away points to propel us up into the top four. Another one or two home defeats isn't out of the equation either.

We've certainly not been disgraced so far.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Shads

[RPNY]

Thank you Shads. Im hoping BMR know what they are doing with the Stadium and the team. The crowds seem to be healthy at the moment, be a crying shame if they let that slip.

[Shadders]

Thank you Shads. Im hoping BMR know what they are doing with the Stadium and the team. The crowds seem to be healthy at the moment, be a crying shame if they let that slip.

I think they're still learning. I didn't share the pre season over optimism of some and the relative ease of the first meeting win against Wolves probably didn't help.

I'm a little disappointed that we haven't been able to pick up more away points, but this is a tough league and we've had teams strengthen just before we've visited.

 

Crowds look to have held up pretty well. The promotion seem receptive to any problems that have cropped up and have looked to rectify them.

 

We've seen some seemingly odd team decisions during meetings, but unless you know the thinking behind them it's easy to team manage from the terraces.

 

Still a lot that needs to be done. The stadium renovations need to be completed and I'm not sure what happened to the training track idea.

[Mr Bump]

As a Lions fan in our 4th season of mainly getting our arses kicked in the top league, I'd say you're doing pretty good!

 

Good luck to you though.

[cityrebel]

The lack of home meetings is the biggest problem, not just for rye, but for every top flight track. When rye do get a run of fixtures, the football season will have started, which brings it's own problems for those of us that follow both sports.

[Shadders]

The lack of home meetings is the biggest problem, not just for rye, but for every top flight track. When rye do get a run of fixtures, the football season will have started, which brings it's own problems for those of us that follow both sports.

Our last scheduled home meeting is on 28th August, so there will be minimal overlap between football & speedway.

[cityrebel]

28th August, just like lakeside in the last few seasons. Wimbledon ran 38 home meetings in 1980, and I went to them all!

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[RobMcCaffery]

28th August, just like lakeside in the last few seasons. Wimbledon ran 38 home meetings in 1980, and I went to them all!

I can certainly remember that people were worried about tracks running less than 26 home fixtures a year and real concerns about those that were shut by mid-September. Like the Dons Hackney ran a very full season, usually every Friday from the very first officially permitted in March (and sometimes prior) right though to October, and occasionally well into November. I recall Belle Vue being booked in for a challenge in November! The one away Friday evening trip for the Hawks, usually to Wolverhampton was covered by the all-star 'Superama' individual.

 

Of course, it helped if you were making money on each meeting rather than just running enough meetings that you can afford to subsidise

 

Now unless you make the play-offs it's 14-16 meetings and you're lucky to be running after the August Bank Holiday.

 

Progress?

 

Yes the past is the past, but it doesn't mean we should put up with the shabby mess we have now. The lack of continuity may well be a far greater problem for the sport than many would choose to believe.

[cityrebel]

Uncle Len runs speedway every week at Kent, even if the kings are riding away. Love him or loathe him, he is the last of his kind.

[RobMcCaffery]

Uncle Len runs speedway every week at Kent, even if the kings are riding away. Love him or loathe him, he is the last of his kind.

If there's anyone left in the sport who appreciates the importance of continuity it's him. It would be interesting to know if the crowds for the filler events reward those principles, or has time left him behind?

 

The big problem is that too many spectators now want 'meaningful' matches rather than just a good night's speedway racing, irrespective of the result, and you cannot achieve that and run weekly speedway with 8-12 team leagues, only able to operate when other leagues/international events allow them to run. Len's success at Hackney was built on the 'good night's racing' rather than the intensity of chasing league titles. Times have very sadly changed.

 

Now, it appears that the initial crowds at Rye House rewarded the BMR ambition. There was a fair continuity, but that was before the Polish and SGP seasons were fully underway. The real test will be the crowds for the occasional Wednesday meetings, especially when they become the norm later on.

 

Right now, there is a realistic chance that the last racing at Rye this year will be the first Wednesday in September. I do hope the #quality' of the SGBP outweighs the quantity of the past. I used to find four month close seasons unbearable, let alone six months, or seven months in the case of some overseas leagues that we are now being driven into conforming with.

 

If the SGBP switches to a fixed night of fortnightly home meetings, as its being encouraged (see F.I.M.'s Armando Castagna's comments in the Speedway Star this week), it will take about 30 weeks to run a 14 home match sea\son, plus another month for the play-offs. The pressure to then to just 1 home and 1 away as in Poland and Sweden will grow and a lot of people will be praying 'less is more'.

 

The Rockets may have leapt onto a very slippery slope. Anyway, there's always the SGP every fortnight to fill in the gaps between the meetings....

Edited June 27, 2017 by Rob McCaffery

[cityrebel]

Especially if the TV money for domestic speedway runs out.

[ouch]

Belle Vue run pretty much every week with all bar 5 or 6 being Fridays, Wednesday being the alternative Day for those weeks. It helps running the Colts and the fact NSS isn't prone to many rain offs. Regular speedway does help fans keep the habit.

[RobMcCaffery]

Belle Vue run pretty much every week with all bar 5 or 6 being Fridays, Wednesday being the alternative Day for those weeks. It helps running the Colts and the fact NSS isn't prone to many rain offs. Regular speedway does help fans keep the habit.

After all those years next door you're reaping the benefits of loyalty. Now you have two exciting teams racing on the best speedway track in Britain in what looks like an excellent stadium. Plugging the gaps with NL is ideal but fans have to reward this by actually giving it a try and not turning their noses up. It is perhaps rather telling that the Colts are the last remaining reserve team.

 

Despite the jealousy shown in some quarters, you are living the dream and long may it last. I wonder if Rockets fans are missing the extra matches created by the Raiders?

[cityrebel]

With the demise of the raiders, storm and young stars. Belle vue are the only club running two teams. It would take a brave promoter to increase that number.

[RobMcCaffery]

With the demise of the raiders, storm and young stars. Belle vue are the only club running two teams. It would take a brave promoter to increase that number.

Very true, and also very sad. Too many people seem to have turned their noses up without even giving it a try.

 

I used to work at Iwade in the mid-2000s when they were running below the present NL level. I saw plenty of great speedway. The trick was to make sure riders were racing others of similar standard. Let them learn to ride, give them a decent track and the racing follows.

 

Too many were happier trying to sound clever clever by saying "I only watch the best riders". I prefer to watch the best racing, which can come at ANY level. It would be tempting to say 'more fool them' but sadly their attitude deprived others of the enjoyment.

 

As someone once said (lord knows who - never been good at attributing quotes) - "Go on, give it a try, you might LIKE it".