SCB Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 No, the rules says that the original fixture has priority. That means everyone of Edinburghs fixtures have priority over Rye Houses. Why do speedway fans make things so difficult? The only time Rye will have priority is if Edinburgh change a fixture to class with one of Rye Houses. A terrific signing based on current form tbh. Rye are a Premiership Club and as Ricky is an asset of Wolves who are also Premiership club Rye have priority. What would make more sense is to simplify the rules so that the club a rider signs for first at the beginning of the season should have priority but that would be too easy for the BSPA and SCB to actually do.Thats IS the rule. Ffs, speedway fans, muddy the waters since 1928. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Good to see the promotion haven't hung around. Watt was never getting back to where he was a few years ago. Wells seems to have stepped up a level & should settle quickly. Goes well around Rye and should make the team much more solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Ricky wells is not in the same class street avenue as Davey at his best.. The problem is Davey is not at or even anywhere near what his best in the past may have been as anyone who has seen him riding at Rye House this year can tell you. All riders have to retire at some point maybe now that time has come for Davey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Wells second div club has priority of course. He signed for them first. Improves Rye House and takes away the opportunity of a Poole win on Saturday. We haven't ridden there for 27 years. Last time Poole hit 60 with Boycey and Lango. Incredibly defeatist attitude. Although probably just the usual arse covering. If your riders gate well you will win, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 No, the rules says that the original fixture has priority. That means everyone of Edinburghs fixtures have priority over Rye Houses. Why do speedway fans make things so difficult? The only time Rye will have priority is if Edinburgh change a fixture to class with one of Rye Houses. A terrific signing based on current form tbh. Thats IS the rule. Ffs, speedway fans, muddy the waters since 1928. totally agree with this. Effectively all Rye fixtures for Wells are not original fixtures. The rearrangement goes behind his original Edinburgh connitments. The same will apply to Schlein at Wolves where there are clashes with Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Not according to the rules, have you read them? Of course second division club SHOULD have priority. You are guessing. Scb is right. The club who signed him first have priority. Simple as that. Edited April 21, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 You are guessing. Scb is right. The club who signed him first have priority. Simple as that. What's the point of the priority list, if you then ignore it and change it to whoever signs the rider 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 No, the rules says that the original fixture has priority. That means everyone of Edinburghs fixtures have priority over Rye Houses. Why do speedway fans make things so difficult? The only time Rye will have priority is if Edinburgh change a fixture to class with one of Rye Houses. A terrific signing based on current form tbh. Thats IS the rule. Ffs, speedway fans, muddy the waters since 1928. I would tend to agree you're right - but another poorly written rule about "re-arranged" matches as technically none of the Rye meetings have been rearranged, they are now additional meetings to Ricky Wells' calendar. So yes I think you're right, but something that could be so simple gets made so complicated by inept wording in the rule book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I think Rye House and Edinburgh need to get the control board to clarify the rule in writing and print the reply they get in both clubs programmes as this is causing an unwanted argument amongst speedway fans. As at present Rye have only had one rain off at Kings Lynn that will be 're arranged the rest of their fixture list are 'original fixtures' so I read the rule below as Rye have priority but if it is read as Ricky Wells original fixtures then Edinburgh appear to have priority. As I said Rye and Edinburgh need to get this clarified and quickly to save another 'Rob Branford' farce as I call it. A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is Doubling Up, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows: - 1) The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-arranged Fixture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM09 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Brilliant Signing! The promotion had to make a change if the club is going to make a push for the play-off's this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Can I have the first letter Richard = W Can I have a vowel = E Now a consonant = L Another consonant please = L And finally another consonant = S You now have a winning word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 i believe this is ruling regarding doubling up riders, but how does this relate to Ricky Wells this season in fixture clashes 16.1 Fixtures shall take priority as follows: FIM SGP, SWC, SGP Qualifying Meetings, FIM U21 World Speedway Championship Meetings, FIM Europe U21 Championship, British Championships (Senior, Junior), BSPA Shared and Fee Events, Official Competitions: 1. SGB Premiership; 2. SGB Championship; 3. National Development League. NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above. A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is “Doubling Up”, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows: - 1) The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-arranged Fixture 2)1st priority to the owner of the rider 3) 2nd priority to the previous season club 4) 3rd priority to the league in which the owner club is a member. You are guessing. Scb is right. The club who signed him first have priority. Simple as that. It's you that are guessing. Have a look at the rules quoted above. Common sense says the team who signed him first SHOULD have priority. If you can quote from the above rules that confirm that go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the rebel Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Monarchs have replied to my tweet and they have piroity over Ricky wells fixturrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Ricky is certainly going to be totting up the miles over night, Sheffield on the Thursday, Edinburgh on the Friday, back up to Glasgow for the Sunday meeting against the Tigers, then down to Rye for the fixture on the Bank Holiday Monday meeting and that's only next week. Edited April 21, 2017 by STEPHEN 333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) What's the point of the priority list, if you then ignore it and change it to whoever signs the rider 1st. What rule are you looking at? A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is “Doubling Up”, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows: -a) The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-arranged Fixture 1st priority to the owner of the rider c) 2nd priority to the previous season club d) 3rd priority to the league in which the owner club is a member. a is the first part of the priority list, so all of Edinburghs meetings are Wells, "original fixtures". Only after that do you care about who owns the rider. Edited April 21, 2017 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Monarchs have replied to my tweet and they have piroity over Ricky wells fixturrs Great to see common sense over rides the rules. Just a shame that they don't include that in the rules, would make perfect sense, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the rebel Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Great to see common sense over rides the rules. Just a shame that they don't include that in the rules, would make perfect sense, right? It's in rules original fixture takes priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Apart from Ryes rain-0ff kings Lynn fixture, as far Branford and Perks are concerned all Ryes fixtures are originals so Rye have priority, but with Wells the same fixtures are counted as rearranged fixtures and Edinburgh have priority. If Edinburgh have to cancel and rearrange in the future a fixture, will Rye then have priority over Wells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Apart from Ryes rain-0ff kings Lynn fixture, as far Branford and Perks are concerned all Ryes fixtures are originals so Rye have priority, but with Wells the same fixtures are counted as rearranged fixtures and Edinburgh have priority. If Edinburgh have to cancel and rearrange in the future a fixture, will Rye then have priority over Wells? Got to love British speedway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the rebel Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Apart from Ryes rain-0ff kings Lynn fixture, as far Branford and Perks are concerned all Ryes fixtures are originals so Rye have priority, but with Wells the same fixtures are counted as rearranged fixtures and Edinburgh have priority. If Edinburgh have to cancel and rearrange in the future a fixture, will Rye then have priority over Wells?Yes if a monarchs meeting is called of and rearranged and it clashes with a original rye fix then rye have piroity If both fix are rearranged fix the monarchs have piroity over wells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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