raddog Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Think there on the bspa website now you just need to look at the last ones they published and there on there Cheers ,, Even tho there was meetings raced after the 1-10 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Cheers ,, Even tho there was meetings raced after the 1-10 ?? Yeah don't quite understand myself but I take it there the final averages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I see your point, but there are positives and negatives for the oldies riding in the team, why would they want to give up riding anyway? They're making a living, they wouldn't say to a doctor, "we're focusing on junior doctors now, you're fired" to someone who has been a doctor for many years, and lets face it the likes of Jon Armstrong and Tony Atkin have been a great servant to the sport and have entertained many people throughout the years, so why should they be left out? There's plenty of space for young riders and old riders if they still have the one rider over 30 per team rule? Do they still have that? They shouldn't be left out, it wouldn't seem fair to me I don't know what you work as, but would you give up your role at your job just to let a younger person have it? Nah, you need to make a living and so do the oldies of speedway, I know they could make a living as a coach, but maybe they don't want that yet Completely agree Never heard a bad word about Armstrong and have a great number of good ones. In particular, the fact that he is still riding and how he is able to give far more assistance and advice simply because he is still out on the track rather than in the pits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Completely agree Never heard a bad word about Armstrong and have a great number of good ones. In particular, the fact that he is still riding and how he is able to give far more assistance and advice simply because he is still out on the track rather than in the pits. Glad someone sees it from my perspective and I got my words across well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Yeah don't quite understand myself but I take it there the final averages Nah they're not final, they'll release the final ones after the AGM like previous years I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I see your point, but there are positives and negatives for the oldies riding in the team, why would they want to give up riding anyway? There's a time and a place for everything. The National Development League (to give it it's full title) should be for developing young riders, in my opinion. Maybe, if there's a demand, speedway can do what tennis, golf (etc) do, and have a seniors league? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 There's a time and a place for everything. The National Development League (to give it it's full title) should be for developing young riders, in my opinion. Maybe, if there's a demand, speedway can do what tennis, golf (etc) do, and have a seniors league? Whilst i subscribe to it being the National Development League i do not believe that the opportunities have to be limited to young riders solely. Its for new riders into league racing, enhancing the skills of more established riders as they work their way up the leagues & the continued learning of track craft for all. If the more experienced riders are able to assist with this in any way (which i know they do) then they are welcome any time as far as i am concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Part of development is learning to team ride, setups and just experience of older riders in the pits, but that's just my opinion There would be no point setting up an old timers league to avoid this because then that takes away the older riders being in the pits in the National League giving them no opportunity to help the younger riders on and off the track??? There's a time and a place for everything. The National Development League (to give it it's full title) should be for developing young riders, in my opinion. Maybe, if there's a demand, speedway can do what tennis, golf (etc) do, and have a seniors league? Edited November 8, 2016 by Dandelion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'm sure if you ask the junior riders the challenge of the older rider is to try & beat them & have something to aim for thus gauging how they are improving. If you start the season half a lap behind & finish it by beating that same older guy it is the best way to measure improvement. It also makes it worthwhile standing in the cold watching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'm sure if you ask the junior riders the challenge of the older rider is to try & beat them & have something to aim for thus gauging how they are improving. If you start the season half a lap behind & finish it by beating that same older guy it is the best way to measure improvement. It also makes it worthwhile standing in the cold watching. Another part they play on track is protection. If you can get infront of Jon he will protect you till the chequered flag. They aren't all about opening the throttle they can ride bikes tactically. I've seen older riders slow races down to get junior riders through. Giving younger riders confidence and knowledge. Can't do that from the pits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Nah they're not final, they'll release the final ones after the AGM like previous years I assume. My mistake! They've put the final averages on for the PL now so shouldn't be too long with the NL ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Interesting to note that the Speedway Star hasn't printed any FULL team averages for the NL since mid July!!!! Shame on them... That means that they haven't received a press release from the BSPA to copy and paste into their magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Interesting to note that the Speedway Star hasn't printed any FULL team averages for the NL since mid July!!!! Shame on them . I'm trying to finalise the averages myself. Use the Speedway GB website? It at least takes you to the end of September Edited November 9, 2016 by Dandelion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Taylor Hampshire signs for the Young Stars. Starts the season on a 3.00 avarage. Delighted with the news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Mole Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Rye House not running a national league team this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Ben Wilson becomes the IOW`s third signing. Island Speedway @IslandSpeedway 4m4 minutes agoEnstone, England Warriors Welcome Ben Wilson to the 2017 camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Mole Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Eastbourne have signed Georgie Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Mole Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Eastbourne have now signed Tom Brennan as expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'm sorry but is no one else bugged that Birmingham and Belle Vue are the wrong way around? And the Isle of Wight are in the wrong spot... >.> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 So what league are Plymouth/Lakeside actually riding in? Or do we not know yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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