jenga Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) you may even find that dan bewley is eligible for the number 7 spot as well .after all , he is a young british rider. number 7s who come in on the 3.00 will get the benifet in 2018 when they can start on a 2.00 ..... i think .......... . even a simple rule has gone pear shaped .lol. Edited November 7, 2016 by jenga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Is the number 7 rule not quite simple (dangerous term I know), at least this is what it seemed to be to me: 1. Riders that haven't ridden in second tier before: 3.00 assessed average for 2017 team building 2. Riders that have ridden in second tier in 2016 at number 7 and have an actual scoring average below 3 it will be that average (e.g. 2.56 or 2.21) but if say 1.88 then it would be rounded to a minimum of 2.00 for team building purposes. So few, if any, would be "2.00" unless their actual scoring ave in 2016 was below 2.00. Althoguh presumably a rider scoring just above 2 but after reduction for UK riders brings him below 2.00 then similarly rounded back up to 2.00. 3. A rider attaining a scoring average in second tier in 2016 at number 7, e.g. 3.80 or 4.20 then that would be their team building average for 2017, (albeit subject to usual reductions for UK riders?) At least that's how it seemed to me. No doubt somebody more clever than me that's studied the finer points of the new rules will correct it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 thats how i see it as well. dont know how chris lewis sees it , but i think he is wrong . new riders (brit) come in on a 3.00. not 2.00 as mentioned by a lot of people . if thats the case of the 2.00 riders , the league has had its team building average lowered (40.00) , but brought back up to 42.50 by the 2 pointers new averages in theory ..... so why do it ? bet that took all of the first day up to come up with that one ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I have posted these posts or similar & people have agreed or liked my take/interpretation of the rule for new british riders. C Louis is partly right in the NEW minimum is 2 but NOT for new riders Posted in Sheffield 2017 .Any new Brit (not been in a declared team before) will start at 3. ie JPB & Smith Any British rider that has been in a declared team but not attained a 3 point CMA will start on his true CMA but not lower than 2. Hence Bailey ay 2.05 & Greaves at 2.32 This is my understanding of the rule. posted in Glasgow 2017 in reply to cyclone How I see it is new riders are unproven so are on a 3. Riders that have been in a declared team but not achieved a 3 will be on their true average but not less than 2. Hence Bailey on 2.05, Greaves on 2.32 as on twitter speedwayGB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Smith will come in as a 2 as will any rider who does not have a Pl average 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Chris Louis has tweeted that new Chaampionship riders from NL will come in on a 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 For people like C Louis, MANSE et al https://twitter.com/SpeedwayGB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 For people like C Louis, MANSE et al https://twitter.com/SpeedwayGB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw the tweet says any Brit rider who hasnt achieved a 3 will start on a 2. Therefore as all newcomers eg JPB Smith Hume Mountain Bacon etc havent achieved a 3 they will start on a 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 the tweet says any Brit rider who hasnt achieved a 3 will start on a 2. Therefore as all newcomers eg JPB Smith Hume Mountain Bacon etc havent achieved a 3 they will start on a 2. I disagree on this, my understand of that is that they haven't achieved a 3 as they haven't had a try at achieving a 3 point average so will come in on a 3, it's only people who have ridden enough meetings to get an official average that can be below 2 I believe. Also BSPA confirmed this on there twitter feed, see below: https://twitter.com/speedwaygb/status/794198277994541057 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Get the money out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 That says to me, new NL rider = 2. Which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 As I've already said, why would they have this rule, and be making a big deal of it, if it was only for 8 riders (that's how many started last season on 3 and dropped). It's becoming clearer that the 2 point is for any young British rider that doesn't have an average. The question is, do these qualify for the number 7 slot? thats how i see it as well. dont know how chris lewis sees it , but i think he is wrong . new riders (brit) come in on a 3.00. not 2.00 as mentioned by a lot of people . if thats the case of the 2.00 riders , the league has had its team building average lowered (40.00) , but brought back up to 42.50 by the 2 pointers new averages in theory ..... so why do it ? bet that took all of the first day up to come up with that one ... Not really, you could use a 3 pointer at 7 and that only leaves you 37 for the rest - total 40. Or you could use a 2 pointer at 7 and have 38 for the rest - total 40. Still a reduction on this seasons teams either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Speedway GB confirmed earlier on that they are coming in on a 2 despite them saying a 3 a few days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Speedway GB confirmed earlier on that they are coming in on a 2 despite them saying a 3 a few days ago Can you please show me where it says this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's on the speedway gb twitter feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's on the speedway gb twitter feed It doesn't actually say this though, it says riders who have not achieved a 3pt average i.e Josh Bailey. I believe from this all new NL riders to the Championship will be on a 3 It reads when a rider has raced and averaged between 2 & 3 then they will start on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Thats how i understand it too...bailey 2 and smith 3, bailey has acheived an average by being in scunnys team, whilst smith hasmt acheived so comes as "assessed" 3 as he wasnt in a team Edited November 7, 2016 by neck brace tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) that tweet is only referring to riders who have done the required meetings to obtain a true average but haven't gained an average over 2 , so can come in on a two point starting average in 2017 . the newbies into the new championship will come in on a 3.00 average .as long as they have not ridden the old pl before and not gained an average . its not hard , is it ? where as dayno hulme can come in on a 2..00 if he has done the required meetings and has not gained an average over 2.00 and not over 3.00 ....... Edited November 7, 2016 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 All 2 😜😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 All 2 have a good read of it bruv . thats the way i see it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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