steve roberts Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just been watching a1992 Meeting at Cowley (what memories!) between Oxford and Reading (Bill Dore Trophy). Great to see a decent crowd present (spotted myself on the third bend together with my Dad amongst others) and a joy to see Hans Nielsen out-manoeuvre Per Jonsson in the last heat decider allowing Martin Dugard to come thru' and secure the match! Interesting, also, to view the second half junior meeting between the two clubs and to see so many people who stayed on to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Coincentally I recently watched Oxford v Hull 6 September 1996, a 48-all draw in no small thanks to Bobby 'Showtime' Ott being in brilliant form. Only rode 6 months or of that season but he was a rider who put bums on seats, cleared the bars & pits and was a popular guest..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Coincentally I recently watched Oxford v Hull 6 September 1996, a 48-all draw in no small thanks to Bobby 'Showtime' Ott being in brilliant form. Only rode 6 months or of that season but he was a rider who put bums on seats, cleared the bars & pits and was a popular guest..... Saw that one recently too! Â Two teams lost to the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Got a few dvds off classic speedway for Christmas. Have so far watched the 1983 overseas final - had forgotten how wet it was, certainly not a meeting for roaring round the boards at Hyde rd. Even so, amazing tgat both pc and s moran bowed out. People moan about modern day riders not riding in poor conditions, but when you see what should be a brilliant meeting be mediocre due to conditions, you have to think that it may be a good thing that less meetings get ridden in the wet. And 1984 league cup, aces destroying a pretty powerful heathens 51-27, with gundersen scoring 14. Decent meeting, though tbh the racing at most aces meetings this year that I've seen has been better. Would suggest it's a myth that racing was better in days gone by. Edited January 1, 2017 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Got a few dvds off classic speedway for Christmas. Have so far watched the 1983 overseas final - had forgotten how wet it was, certainly not a meeting for roaring round the boards at Hyde rd. Even so, amazing tgat both pc and s moran bowed out. People moan about modern day riders not riding in poor conditions, but when you see what should be a brilliant meeting be mediocre due to conditions, you have to think that it may be a good thing that less meetings get ridden in the wet. And 1984 league cup, aces destroying a pretty powerful heathens 51-27, with gundersen scoring 14. Decent meeting, though tbh the racing at most aces meetings this year that I've seen has been better. Would suggest it's a myth that racing was better in days gone by. I would imagine that 1984 was pretty 'boring' generally at Hyde Road (I saw Oxford massacred twice there that particular season) because Stuart Bamforth declared a very strong team that should have won the league...until Ipswich came along and spoilt the party! Â As a post script I remember chatting to an 'Aces' fan who openly enjoyed the fact that the meetings were very much one sided...takes all sorts I suppose! Edited January 1, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I enjoyed that season as well tbh. Some absolutely stonking home wins. And with pc mort and foxy doing a lot of it from the back, still plenty of opportunity for good racing. The following season the aces were pretty weak, which made for a number of nail biting last heats, and generally without the mort/pc pairing in heat 13. Still can't believe Bamforth ditched Larry Ross for Andy Campbell! And failed in signing sudden sam mid season, so brought in Eddie ingels instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) I enjoyed that season as well tbh. Some absolutely stonking home wins. And with pc mort and foxy doing a lot of it from the back, still plenty of opportunity for good racing. The following season the aces were pretty weak, which made for a number of nail biting last heats, and generally without the mort/pc pairing in heat 13. Still can't believe Bamforth ditched Larry Ross for Andy Campbell! And failed in signing sudden sam mid season, so brought in Eddie ingels instead! Particularly enjoyed going back to Hyde Road in 1985 and watching Oxford winning after the humiliation of the previous year!  ...also for purchasing Mark Crang (£7000?) who was only just a reserve at Middlesbrough...or was that in 1986? Edited January 1, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Particularly enjoyed going back to Hyde Road in 1985 and watching Oxford winning after the humiliation of the previous year!  ...also for purchasing Mark Crang (£7000?) who was only just a reserve at Middlesbrough...or was that in 1986? Yep that was 85. Crang is without a doubt the worst rider I have seen in aces colours.From memory we beat you by two points in a lastvheat decider in the league, and you beat us by 3 points in the league cup when we were missing mort and pc (might have bl and league cup wrong way round). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Yep that was 85. Crang is without a doubt the worst rider I have seen in aces colours. From memory we beat you by two points in a lastvheat decider in the league, and you beat us by 3 points in the league cup when we were missing mort and pc (might have bl and league cup wrong way round). Oxford lost by two points in the KO Cup but won in the league (40-37?) without Hans Nielsen who was banned from riding that weekend (some nonsense with the DMU!) and Neil Collins rode as a guest. Â Of course the rest is history and 'The Cheetahs' went on to win the Championship that year and repeated the dose in'86! Great days! Edited January 1, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Oxford lost by two points in the KO Cup but won in the league (40-37?) without Hans Nielsen who was banned from riding that weekend (some nonsense with the DMU!) and Neil Collins rode as a guest. Â Of course the rest is history and 'The Cheetahs' went on to win the Championship that year and repeated the dose in'86! Great days! Ok. Aces must have lostv40-37 in the league cup. N Collins and Davis guested for aces, I believe Oxford were missing Andy grahame.And then u r right, Oxford must have scraped home in the league as well, with n Collins guesting for u that time. Didn't get any better for the aces the following season, though at least we dealt to u at cowley in the league cup, blackbird beating Hans 3? times!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Ok. Aces must have lostv40-37 in the league cup. N Collins and Davis guested for aces, I believe Oxford were missing Andy grahame. And then u r right, Oxford must have scraped home in the league as well, with n Collins guesting for u that time. Didn't get any better for the aces the following season, though at least we dealt to u at cowley in the league cup, blackbird beating Hans 3? times!!! Yes I remember the occasion well at Cowley re: Carl Blackbird. One of those peculiarities that occasionally crops in speedway when a rider can do no wrong and all his star signs cross...only to fade as quickly as it appeared! Although Carl did give an interesting interview in 'Backtrack' some years ago. The usual thing in speedway...not having the resources to fund first class equipment on a regular basis. Â Of course Oxford then signed the very under rated Per Sorensen and we were untouchable for the rest of the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) I would imagine that 1984 was pretty 'boring' generally at Hyde Road (I saw Oxford massacred twice there that particular season) because Stuart Bamforth declared a very strong team that should have won the league...until Ipswich came along and spoilt the party! Â As a post script I remember chatting to an 'Aces' fan who openly enjoyed the fact that the meetings were very much one sided...takes all sorts I suppose! Â Â Boring? No... not at all! The Aces' side had some really thrilling action-merchants who couldn't gate to save their lives - Collins, Morton, Peter Carr, Smith, Courtney - and many races by these chaps had overtakes. I remember one meeting, Steve, in which the Oxford boys made the gate and the Aces' just pipped them off, yet again posting another 50-plus score. Simon Wigg was interviewed for then then Piccadilly Radio station, and I still have the tape, in which he said (and I paraphrase) "Bloomin' hell, it was so frustrating. You had to watch everywhere (when you gated) and had one Belle Vue rider on the inside breathing down your neck, and the other on the outside." Edited January 1, 2017 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just watched once a jolly swagman, great film 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just watched once a jolly swagman, great film  Always enjoy watching this film...Sid James in a straight role for a change.  Bonar Colleano who appeared in the film died when he crashed his sports car aged only 34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Â Always enjoy watching this film...Sid James in a straight role for a change. Â Bonar Colleano who appeared in the film died when he crashed his sports car aged only 34. Sid James i prefered him in straight roles my favourite film was hell drivers hated him in Carry on films loved his notorious laugh😆 Edited January 10, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) My last dvd was the superb Icy Racers documentary, mainly about Per Serenius. I have thousands of meetings on dvd, many which I have transferred from VHS tape over the years and still collect title to my archive, although, strange to say, rarely watch any of them. I love the old Screensport, KM Video stuff, all the old things, but don't always shy away from more recent action. Edited January 10, 2017 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 My last dvd was the superb Icy Racers documentary, mainly about Per Serenius. I have thousands of meetings on dvd, many which I have transferred from VHS tape over the years and still collect title to my archive, although, strange to say, rarely watch any of them. I love the old Screensport, KM Video stuff, all the old things, but don't always shy away from more recent action. Saw one of my early heroes, Hasse Holmqvist, helping out Per Serenius on YouTube a couple of years ago...great stuff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 . I love the old Screensport, KM Video stuff, all the old things, but don't always shy away from more recent action. Delighted to hear they're still remembered and enjoyed. Â Sadly one of the commentators is now 'an old thing'...... ;-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just watched the 1981 Overseas Final from White City. Interesting to see the infamous clash between Penhall and Carter after all these years. Just before they both came down there was some elbowing down the straight as Carter squeezed thru' a gap between Penhalll and the fence. Entering the bend Carter appeared to close down Penhall rather hard which, in my opinion, compromised Penhall and a coming together was the end result. Who was to blame? Difficult one to call (Penhall was excluding) but obviously a prelude of what was to come. Â Actually Penhall was attacking bends ruthlessly and made things very difficult for Dave Jessup in an attempt to move him over but Jessup held his nerve and went on to win the meeting...great stuff and in a superb stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just watched the 1981 Overseas Final from White City. Interesting to see the infamous clash between Penhall and Carter after all these years. Just before they both came down there was some elbowing down the straight as Carter squeezed thru' a gap between Penhalll and the fence. Entering the bend Carter appeared to close down Penhall rather hard which, in my opinion, compromised Penhall and a coming together was the end result. Who was to blame? Difficult one to call (Penhall was excluding) but obviously a prelude of what was to come. Â Actually Penhall was attacking bends ruthlessly and made things very difficult for Dave Jessup in an attempt to move him over but Jessup held his nerve and went on to win the meeting...great stuff and in a superb stadium. Penhall was a ruthless rider don't be fooled by his looks in 82 he was very lucky to get away with that incident.For me i don't blame either rider the rule in place that someone has to go (excluded) is to blame.How the sport was robbed that year of a great climax and IF Carter had become WC would his life have panned out differently.? who knows.By the way if he had become WC he would of been a terrific WC, unlike Penhall who then just quit and from then on the sport has been on a wet slippery slope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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