Speedway Agm

[waiheke1]

Would imagine that a few plans have had to be shelved/modified since the Polish brought in the amount of Countries it's Extraligue riders can ride in?

 

NKI, Doyley, to name but 2 that COULD be effected?

Don't see it being an issue for Doyle. Imagine it is the danes it will mostly impact.

[A ORLOV]

They should call it the , A.D.S. annual disappointment for supporters . every year we all hope for some radical changes to give our sport a much needed boost

and every year as the news slowly leaks out ,it the same old Shyte with a few little tweaks ,annual disappointment

What are you on about speedi they have already announced a major change that will get the fans flooding back by changing the helmet colour from yellow to green.

[MattJ81]

 

Im guessing thats a Tongue in cheek comment as both are highly unlikely.

 

I'm sure Cradley could sustain it but I believe it Nigel has already said it would depend heavily on availability of dates at Monmore (obviously) and at present the costs associated with the PL are more than they would be prepared to risk - he quoted the example of Kenny Bjerre coming into the league after just missing out on a GP spot compared to the good old days of teams made up mostly of younger British riders with (mostly) British stars at the top (Stoney/Carr etc), though he also mentioned Long Eaton which shows how long ago he is thinking.

 

With the teams that are looking to drop into the NL it may end up looking very different, although there must be doubts over Cov and Belle Vue as NL starters. I do hope that the traditional long term NL teams such as Buxton don't end up in difficulty as a lot of larger stand alone teams are forced into the league to survive and need to build competitive teams

[speedibee]

What are you on about speedi they have already announced a major change that will get the fans flooding back by changing the helmet colour from yellow to green.

 

Oh wow, that's exciting .I hope they don't go for single racenights because with my renewed interest I will want to buy season tickets at Cov ,Leicester, Brum , and Cradley , and wont be able to go to all 4 on the same night

[Guest]

 

Oh wow, that's exciting .I hope they don't go for single racenights because with my renewed interest I will want to buy season tickets at Cov ,Leicester, Brum , and Cradley , and wont be able to go to all 4 on the same night

 

How could speedway go for single race nights? Would the stadiums be available? ...and on that single night possibility it would possibly on a fortnightly basis as only half the members clubs would be staging home matches. Or an I getting a little confused on this issue?

Edited November 2, 2016 by Guest

[A ORLOV]

 

How could speedway go for single race nights? Would the stadiums be available? ...and on that single night possibility it would possibly on a fortnightly basis as only half the members clubs would be staging home matches. Or an I getting a little confused on this issue?

That is the problem, one night a week racing will kill off some of the clubs because they cannot run on that day, also with only racing on one night that would mean racing at home once a fortnight and with the odd rainoff fans will get out of the habit of a specific night of the week is speedway night. The breaks in the schedule this season and last were awful. I also reckon that with a single race night when there is a decent meeting on tv and you have a crap team visiting many will stay at home and watch the tv meeting.

Edited November 2, 2016 by A ORLOV

[foamfence]

The basic points we fans need to know are:

1. Which teams will be in what league.

2. For EL. Are the weekly race nights going to be set i.e. one or two nights per week.

3. Total team points limit

4. Any significant rule changes re Tactical substitutes or similar.

 

If anybody else want to add any significant "wants" feel free to add.

And an announcement answering your rather obvious points, will be released when all business is concluded.

[Bunce]

I think the AGM should also look at the situation when a rider HAS to be excluded after an incident. At the referees discretion could there not be a "no fault" re-run with all four riders? Sometimes its very difficult, even with a TV replay to blame a rider. I'm thinking of an incident where a rider locks up, the following rider lays down to avoid a nasty accident, and is then excluded for his trouble! Unfair or what?

[Tsunami]

I think the AGM should also look at the situation when a rider HAS to be excluded after an incident. At the referees discretion could there not be a "no fault" re-run with all four riders? Sometimes its very difficult, even with a TV replay to blame a rider. I'm thinking of an incident where a rider locks up, the following rider lays down to avoid a nasty accident, and is then excluded for his trouble! Unfair or what?

Once saw a meeting at Edinburgh when both Scott Lamb and Jesper Olsen were excluded for being joint cause of a crash.(Late 90's)

[Crump99]

riding sundays so no chance

 

Not until dates are announced. If there was a big enough carrot then all things are negotiable. We still ride when we're allowed and Sunday will probably turn out to be as meaningful as Elite, although if that's what it is then I suspect the balance will just be in favour of the alleged popular slot.

[iris123]

That is the problem, one night a week racing will kill off some of the clubs because they cannot run on that day, also with only racing on one night that would mean racing at home once a fortnight and with the odd rainoff fans will get out of the habit of a specific night of the week is speedway night. The breaks in the schedule this season and last were awful. I also reckon that with a single race night when there is a decent meeting on tv and you have a crap team visiting many will stay at home and watch the tv meeting.

Never bought into this idea that if teams raced once a fortnight people will get out of the habit.2 answers.....football and winter

 

Football seems to prove people don't get out of the habit of fortnightly sport.Quite the opposite

 

The winter break is far far longer than two weeks.Let's not have a break in case people get out of the habit!!!!

[A ORLOV]

Never bought into this idea that if teams raced once a fortnight people will get out of the habit.2 answers.....football and winter

 

Football seems to prove people don't get out of the habit of fortnightly sport.Quite the opposite

 

The winter break is far far longer than two weeks.Let's not have a break in case people get out of the habit!!!!

If racing goes to one night a week and home meetings once a fortnight we shall see then.

The major issue then is once fans are lost it is difficult to get them all back and the last thing speedway needs is less fans going to the meetings.

Edited November 2, 2016 by A ORLOV

[Skid Sprocket]

Never bought into this idea that if teams raced once a fortnight people will get out of the habit.2 answers.....football and winter

 

Football seems to prove people don't get out of the habit of fortnightly sport.Quite the opposite

 

The winter break is far far longer than two weeks.Let's not have a break in case people get out of the habit!!!!

And once a fortnight halves the cost for those who find it too expensive so it could increase crowds.

[iris123]

And once a fortnight halves the cost for those who find it too expensive so it could increase crowds.

I agree.For a lot of people who have the time and money there will always be another track they can visit if they can't follow their team to the away meeting,so it will boost crowds elsewhere.The sport flourishes crowd-wise in Poland and Sweden with fortnightly speedway.Their fans don't suddenly forget there is speedway on or start doing something else,so i am not sure why peple always think fans in the UK are any different

Edited November 2, 2016 by iris123

[speedibee]

I think the AGM should also look at the situation when a rider HAS to be excluded after an incident. At the referees discretion could there not be a "no fault" re-run with all four riders? Sometimes its very difficult, even with a TV replay to blame a rider. I'm thinking of an incident where a rider locks up, the following rider lays down to avoid a nasty accident, and is then excluded for his trouble! Unfair or what?

In theory that's a good idea , however would you really want to give the likes of Vardy , Horley ,or the other Bint , more chances to make ludicrous decisions , we would have races with all 4 back because the one who caused the stoppage had blue eyes .

[ray c]

In theory that's a good idea , however would you really want to give the likes of Vardy , Horley ,or the other Bint , more chances to make ludicrous decisions , we would have races with all 4 back because the one who caused the stoppage had blue eyes .

so you think the male referees are better I find that funny ha ha

[SimonB]

I agree.For a lot of people who have the time and money there will always be another track they can visit if they can't follow their team to the away meeting,so it will boost crowds elsewhere.The sport flourishes crowd-wise in Poland and Sweden with fortnightly speedway.Their fans don't suddenly forget there is speedway on or start doing something else,so i am not sure why peple always think fans in the UK are any different

 

I agree as well. If your team races once at home and once away each fortnight it gives you the opportunity to arrange your other commitments around the meetings. I find it relatively easy to arrange my life around football but much more difficult for speedway

[The Third Man]

Never bought into this idea that if teams raced once a fortnight people will get out of the habit.2 answers.....football and winter

 

Football seems to prove people don't get out of the habit of fortnightly sport.Quite the opposite

 

The winter break is far far longer than two weeks.Let's not have a break in case people get out of the habit!!!!

 

I have been going to football as long as I have been going to speedway, both are habit forming.

 

Football has always been more or less every two weeks

 

Speedway has always been every Thursday

 

that's it, if I don't get a meeting for a month because of a rain off, that's three weeks to find something to fill my Thursday night, if it is cheaper and more entertaining I might be persuaded to go there instead,

 

in winter I would rather stay in in the warm, and again its a habit, no speedway in winter, no football in summer

 

the other thing is why are people looking at tweaking things, it has gone past tweaking and needs a radicle rethink before there is no speedway

And once a fortnight halves the cost for those who find it too expensive so it could increase crowds.

 

no it doesn't, they now only go to one match a month anyway, they don't gain and neither does the club

 

and the club might have to pay twice the amount of rent for the stadium every two weeks, or more if the stadium is losing money for food and drink as well, because the landlords are not going to want to half their income over the summer

[A ORLOV]

 

I have been going to football as long as I have been going to speedway, both are habit forming.

 

Football has always been more or less every two weeks

 

Speedway has always been every Thursday

 

that's it, if I don't get a meeting for a month because of a rain off, that's three weeks to find something to fill my Thursday night, if it is cheaper and more entertaining I might be persuaded to go there instead,

 

in winter I would rather stay in in the warm, and again its a habit, no speedway in winter, no football in summer

 

the other thing is why are people looking at tweaking things, it has gone past tweaking and needs a radicle rethink before there is no speedway

And that is exactly what has happened with people I bump into in town, at the pub watching a gp or at the track , that used to be a regular fan but do not now bother apart from the occasional odd meeting. If the meetings do change to fortnightly hopefully we may run an NL team on some of the alternate weeks.

[iris123]

 

I have been going to football as long as I have been going to speedway, both are habit forming.

 

Football has always been more or less every two weeks

 

Speedway has always been every Thursday

 

that's it, if I don't get a meeting for a month because of a rain off, that's three weeks to find something to fill my Thursday night, if it is cheaper and more entertaining I might be persuaded to go there instead,

 

in winter I would rather stay in in the warm, and again its a habit, no speedway in winter, no football in summer

 

the other thing is why are people looking at tweaking things, it has gone past tweaking and needs a radicle rethink before there is no speedway

 

 

Doesn't really make sense.You go to football in winter,but would rather stay at home in the warm.And football in more and more every day of the week,so you never really have a pattern of which day of the week your team will play.The old fanzine 'When Saturday Comes'........those days are long gone and crowds have risen since that was the case

And that is exactly what has happened with people I bump into in town, at the pub watching a gp or at the track , that used to be a regular fan but do not now bother apart from the occasional odd meeting. If the meetings do change to fortnightly hopefully we may run an NL team on some of the alternate weeks.

But they have gotten out of the habit despite it being once a week.So has no relevance.They have lost interest because of some reason other than the day of the week