Grand Central Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Well, I applaud the BSPA for looking to make radicle changes. I'm not going to complain as it looks like they've really had a go but a couple of questions for me Just which changes are actually radical here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Sounds like none of the big issues have been addressed once again.... Guest riders Doubling-up for starters... Edited November 3, 2016 by frigbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther1997 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) 'No team changes will be permitted in either league after July 31.' Well thats us (Peterborough) and Rathbone screwed Edited November 3, 2016 by Panther1997 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just which changes are actually radical here? Id say Promotion and relegation is quite radical? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just which changes are actually radical here? Quite... All bluster on the face of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just which changes are actually radical here? New average setup, including 2 points at the bottom end. Universal format across both leagues etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Id say Promotion and relegation is quite radical?Are you really being serious?This has been tried in this form before and been utterly pointless. For gods sake Rye House and Somerset have just been promoted without a race bring run. What's the big deal? Edited November 3, 2016 by Grand Central 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Interesting is the part on the Gerhard engines ie running cost,i think that is a massive step towards speedway being sustainable,if the running costs are to be believed To reduce cost burden on riders,especially in the lower leagues could be a huge boost to the sport,lets hope it works 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 If a rider is doubling up. His team finishes bottom of the Prem but the other team is top of the Champ then who does he ride for in the promotion play off ? If riders have one average that applies to both leagues I'm assuming they can all double up with no nationality bias ?? If a rider does double up how is their on-going average adjusted throughout the year. I guess his Prem points are multiplied by 1.4 but Champ points are taken as scored. Good to see the PLRC (now CLRC, that has to change) moved to another track. Hope the British Final gets moved from Wolves too. A good track but too many first bend bunching problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just which changes are actually radical here? Both leagues using the same averages is quite a big change. The top league going back to the original 15 format is a big change. Brining the KO Cup back into the top league is quite a big change. The BSPA are looking at doing something with Gerhard & ruduced rider costs, quite a big change. Seeing Rye House & Somerset in the Premiership is exciting for the division. 2 tracks I like anyway. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Just read the statement. Only 19 teams left standing now then. And there are doubts about 3 of those. So we're now down to 10 clubs in the Premier League (sorry, Championship) but up to 9 in Elite League (sorry, Premiership). That number of 9 is presumably to protect the Sky contract should either Leicester or Belle Vue not make it to tapes - a real possibility in both cases. And in the Championship Workington appear to be teetering too. Hardly a total revamp is it? More a case of desperately trying to hang on to what they have left. Actually, the situation with the clubs is a lot more positive than I had expected, particularly given the earlier statement about Belle Vue. It says that both the Aces and Leicester will be in the top flight and I'd be surprised if they would be so bold if there was a 'real possibility' that they won't be there. Furthermore, it says that Workington are 'expected' to take their place in the new Championship. That's a lot better than it was a week or a month ago. Furthermore, its likely that both Plymouth and Lakeside will be competing in the NL so we haven't lost a track. Edited November 3, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 New average setup, including 2 points at the bottom end. Universal format across both leagues etc. Isn't the universal format just the same as it was prior to the FTR introduction? Promotion/relegation again? Hasn't really worked before. The new averages thing means Ellis is a wee bit stuffed? Or am I reading it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 New average setup, including 2 points at the bottom end. Universal format across both leagues etc. And THAT is deemed radical? It may be mindbogglingly fascinatingly for stattos. But nothing to be printed on billboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Are you really being serious? This has been tried in this form before and been utterly pointless. For gods sake Rye House and Somerset have just been promoted without a race bring run. What's the big deal? i am being totally serious yes,it hasnt been tested since the two top leagues have become so close together but as usual with speedway it is so easy to knock somthing before we see how/if it can work 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Id say Promotion and relegation is quite radical? Not really. It's been tried and failed more than once. Love to know how this average thing is going to work... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther1997 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Is the national league still running as there is no mention of it anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foamfence Posted November 3, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 If each club had been given £1m sponsorship and admission was reduced to a quid, there'd still be moaners on here. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Will they still have doubling up, if so, what happens if both your clubs are in the end of season promotion/relegation play-offs? Far too early to decide on that, wait until October the day before the 1st leg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 And THAT is deemed radical? It may be mindbogglingly fascinatingly for stattos. But nothing to be printed on billboards. Well I like it! Presumably you'll be going to the local park, to watch tennis or dog rubbishting contests. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 I don’t think the changes are “radical” but the notion “radical” changes have ever been required has always been quite farfetched IMO. Those expecting radical changes will naturally always be left disappointed irrespective of progressive announcements and IMO, for the most part this statement is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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