The Third Man Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Doesn't really make sense.You go to football in winter,but would rather stay at home in the warm.And football in more and more every day of the week,so you never really have a pattern of which day of the week your team will play.The old fanzine 'When Saturday Comes'........those days are long gone and crowds have risen since that was the case But they have gotten out of the habit despite it being once a week.So has no relevance.They have lost interest because of some reason other than the day of the week Speedway is a summer sport I have got used to that over 50 years of watching. Football is in winter, weekend or Tuesday nights, I have had to get used to watching at different times over the weekend I agree. but I have got into the habit of going at a weekend or a Tuesday night. In summer I do other things at weekends because the weather might be good, maybe even go to an away speedway match Speedway has on the whole been every Thursday in the summer. In the winter on Thursday I don't want to do anything else, I am content to stay at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Doesn't really make sense.You go to football in winter,but would rather stay at home in the warm.And football in more and more every day of the week,so you never really have a pattern of which day of the week your team will play.The old fanzine 'When Saturday Comes'........those days are long gone and crowds have risen since that was the case But they have gotten out of the habit despite it being once a week.So has no relevance.They have lost interest because of some reason other than the day of the week Recently it has not been once a week, that is part of the problem, many have even posted on here about the last few years with multiple rain offs etc. A few years ago the end of the season was chaotic when trying to run all the delayed meetings then the next season the meeting planners left gaps to cover for rain offs, in some cases this resulted in three weeks without a meeting. Just look at the Swindon list of home meetings to confirm that meetings have not been weekly. In July we had 3 meetings on 4th, 7th, 21st. followed in August with 2 meetings on 4th and 22nd, two of which were mondays and not the normal thursdays. There were other reasons but from speaking to fans the above was one of them. Guest riders Standing in Siberian type weather at Blunsdon Rubbish visitors People cutting back on spending Edited November 2, 2016 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Fortnightly speedway with the cut off in mind would allow for 13 matches. If you factor in rain offs then it would come down to 10 or 11. Is that a viable amount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 so you think the male referees are better I find that funny ha ha I have first hand knowledge of ridiculous decisions by lady refs , but not so much of male refs , how about refusing to change your mind ,when the opposition team manager rings and says that was my rider at fault , and then the rider himself rings and says it was 110% my fault ,I rammed him .ludicrous enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 If 3 clubs came up, not sure where the riders would come from. It was difficult for some teams to get a competitive side this season. If Somerset came up, Swindon would lose likely riders as they are Somerset assets & with 3 clubs coming up, less riders to double up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 If 3 clubs came up, not sure where the riders would come from. It was difficult for some teams to get a competitive side this season. If Somerset came up, Swindon would lose likely riders as they are Somerset assets & with 3 clubs coming up, less riders to double up! Which of the Swindon riders were owned by Somerset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Which of the Swindon riders were owned by Somerset? Not sure but I think we had at least 1 when there was a clash. If 3 clubs came up, not sure where the riders would come from. It was difficult for some teams to get a competitive side this season. If Somerset came up, Swindon would lose likely riders as they are Somerset assets & with 3 clubs coming up, less riders to double up! A switch to six rider teams would help a bit, and if the EL rode on a separate night or two to the PL then more could double up if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Would I be right in thinking that as Lakeside will not be involved in EL/PL in 2017 that Jon Cook will not be involved in any decision making at this years AGM? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) IMO the basics are scrapping doubling up / down and reintroducing real team speedway , not this mercenary driven free for all we currently have and admission costs reduced , until these are addressed I don't think we will ever begin to recover , we have to dangle a temptation carrot to the wider public, I keep seeing riders tweets about what's in this agm for them ? What about the fans ? Edited November 2, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 There were other reasons but from speaking to fans the above was one of them. Guest riders Standing in Siberian type weather at Blunsdon Rubbish visitors People cutting back on spending Im not convinced that people cutting back on spending is the issue,i feel more that people spend it elsewhere,mainly because speedway has gone out of fashion a bit and there are other things to spend it on Quite how you get them back into speedway stadiums i have no idea though as when meetings a promoted for £10 entry the crowd doesnt seem to increase that much IMO the basics are scrapping doubling up / down and reintroducing real team speedway , not this mercenary driven free for all we currently have and admission costs reduced , until these are addressed I don't think we will ever begin to recover , we have to dangle a temptation carrot to the wider public, I keep seeing riders tweets about what's in this agm for them ? What about the fans ? But without doubling up or down i just dont see where the riders will come from as we seem to be short now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Im not convinced that people cutting back on spending is the issue,i feel more that people spend it elsewhere,mainly because speedway has gone out of fashion a bit and there are other things to spend it on Quite how you get them back into speedway stadiums i have no idea though as when meetings a promoted for £10 entry the crowd doesnt seem to increase that much But without doubling up or down i just dont see where the riders will come from as we seem to be short now we don't see where the riders are coming from because of doubling up /down , there are enough potential riders going round but the same old faces keep popping up in every team , it's just a joke ,the general public don't buy into it and I can see why , it's only my love of all things speedway is the reason I buy into it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 we don't see where the riders are coming from because of doubling up /down , there are enough potential riders going round but the same old faces keep popping up in every team , it's just a joke ,the general public don't buy into it and I can see why , it's only my love of all things speedway is the reason I buy into itquite agree i try and let all the rules go above my head except the double points never liked it unfair always get the buzz come march though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 quite agree i try and let all the rules go above my head except the double points never liked it unfair always get the buzz come march though Well said Sir. :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 we don't see where the riders are coming from because of doubling up /down , there are enough potential riders going round but the same old faces keep popping up in every team , it's just a joke ,the general public don't buy into it and I can see why , it's only my love of all things speedway is the reason I buy into itThere are definitely not enough riders of a good enough standard that want to ride in Britain to fill every team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Once a fortnight guess we will have to run all year round we can't get all the matches in when we ride every week one rain off could mean no meetings for a month 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 There are definitely not enough riders of a good enough standard that want to ride in Britain to fill every team.well if you believe that to be true and we don't find the riders then the team aspect of the sport is finished 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 As there is no Promotion and relegation... would it not be prudent as a Promotor of a Club, to do some market research with the fan base who regularly pay to watch the speedway at their track, as to what League they would prefer to see their team racing in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 SpeedwayGB @SpeedwayGB 2m2 minutes ago UPDATE | Day 2 of the AGM has concluded and we expect to have a full update with all the important news tomorrow afternoon. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 There ARE riders - they just need a chance, they'd soon develop just like they did in 68 and 69 when there "wouldn't be enough riders" to staff BL2- within a couple of years they were the backbone of the England team. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Must be a leak or two before tomorrow afternoon surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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