BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 So where do you think "remainder of the season" fits in ? What it says. It's quite simple. What Championship has Hancock won? Then remind yourself what Championship Hancock is ineligible for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 I didn't see the GP but if Hancock pulled out halfway through, technically is there not a "remainder of the season" in the rest of that meeting? Either way, all this grin nonsense in front of the cameras has always put me off Hancock and some of the things he's done in the past year have just increased that. Great rider, huge respect for the length of time he's competed at the very top level, but for me the sooner he retires the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 He overtook someone to win his first race. Surely that's the biggest news of this GP!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 He overtook someone to win his first race. Surely that's the biggest news of this GP!!?? More the case of someone moved over and he rode by on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Once again, you're inventing things that aren't there. There is no mention of meetings. Simply, he is ineligible for the championship. It is crystal clear. It doesn't matter if someone walked out of the first, fourth, eighth or last meeting. The moment they do so they render themselves ineligible for the championship. It's not crystal clear at all. As always it's open to interpretation - in particular the interpretation of the work "ineligible". So, being a bit of a smarty pant, I decided to come here and debunk Bwitcher's theory. However, if you google "ineligible" you get this: ineligible ɪnˈɛlɪdʒɪb(ə)l/ adjective adjective: ineligible legally or officially unable to be considered for a position or benefit. "they were ineligible for jury service" synonyms: unqualified, ruled out, disqualified, legally disqualified, disentitled; incompetent "students are ineligible for housing benefit" antonyms: eligible dated not suitable or desirable, especially as a marriage partner. "as a son-in-law he was quite ineligible" So the main reason of ineligible is that he is officially unable to be considered for a position. So he can't be World Champion. So, against my better judgement I have to agree - Tai should be the World Champion. Either that or speedway should make its rules to say what they mean. Congratulations Tai - 3 times World Champ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just as a fun aside, I think the rule being discussed is actually in the rulebook thanks to PePe Protasiewicz. He qualified as first reserve in 2010 and after doing a couple of rounds in the middle of the season decided that he couldn't be bothered with other meetings, leaving Davey Watt to race those..until the series made its way to Bydgoszcz for the final round which PePe decided he fancied racing in. There was a bit of an outcry that he could pick and choose rounds like this and the debated rule was added for the following season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 I wonder if tai would accept the title if offered to him, now that would be interesting in the monster camp. I'm sure Nicki said once that the GP was like competing against a team instead of individuals. I might have imagined that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 I see Nicki has given his thoughts on the situation: http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/motorsport/speedway/forarget-nicki-efter-grotesk-vm-farce-det-skal-have-konsekvenser/6364228 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Another deciding to invent things. There is no 'stretching'. There is no need for you to invent anything either, the rule has been quoted and is quite clear. So good to see that this year's Vinho Verde grape has produced a much stronger brew!!! 2 more days and I'll be experiencing it myself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 I haven't checked the scores but I'm sure someone will have, I just wonder if the cheats actions affected the top 8 and I'm sure you could make a case that it did, if no action is taken it leaves it open to happen again, ban the cheat for first 2 GPs next season that should stop any more cheats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) So good to see that this year's Vinho Verde grape has produced a much stronger brew!!! 2 more days and I'll be experiencing it myself!! The only folk who are on the brew are those who cannot read. Nicki Pedersen clearly can. We get hundreds of pages of folks whinging when rules aren't broken... then when you get a rule, as in this case, not enforced, people just wish to invent their own scenarios. Greg Hancock should not be World Champion, as per the rules of the sport. If the sport isn't going to follow it's own rules, what is the point? I see Nicki has given his thoughts on the situation: http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/motorsport/speedway/forarget-nicki-efter-grotesk-vm-farce-det-skal-have-konsekvenser/6364228 Indeed he has.. Edited October 24, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can anyone translate please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can anyone translate please Basically Nicki says he doesn't want Greg stripped of the title, but rules are rules and should be followed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Thanks If you copy and paste it into google translate you'll get the gist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Wibble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Let's not forget that the entire field pulled out of a meeting last year. So there should be no World Champion for 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Let's not forget that the entire field pulled out of a meeting last year. So there should be no World Champion for 2015. Technically not as the meeting was postponed was it not? Had they gone through the charade of putting the 2 mins on for Heat 13,14,15 and 16 each of the riders would have ruled themselves out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Technically not as the meeting was postponed was it not? Had they gone through the charade of putting the 2 mins on for Heat 13,14,15 and 16 each of the riders would have ruled themselves out. Nah. Congratulations Peter Kildemand. 2015 World Speedway champion. (The top scorer who wasn't in the first round) Edited October 24, 2016 by grachan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Nah. Congratulations Peter Kildemand. 2015 World Speedway champion. (The top scorer who wasn't in the first round) But do we know for sure all 16 refused to race.. Didn't Harris want to carry on? Silver medal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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