scotchopper Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 As I said though CB football is the only sport that doesn't use them to decide the champions but they compete to finish in the top 6 meaning a more meaningful games up to the end of the season. In the premiership there is the battle for European spots. In the spfl they have the league split so all sports are trying to bring in measures to make it meaningful. Even in international football they are bringing in the new UEFA nations league to get more competitive matches rather than friendlies I'm not claiming play offs are perfect but anyone who says speedway is a laughing stock because of the play offs doesn't know what they are talking about. It has many problems but play offs isn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 As I said though CB football is the only sport that doesn't use them to decide the champions but they compete to finish in the top 6 meaning a more meaningful games up to the end of the season. In the premiership there is the battle for European spots. In the spfl they have the league split so all sports are trying to bring in measures to make it meaningful. Even in international football they are bringing in the new UEFA nations league to get more competitive matches rather than friendlies I'm not claiming play offs are perfect but anyone who says speedway is a laughing stock because of the play offs doesn't know what they are talking about. It has many problems but play offs isn't one of them. No play offs in football but they wouldn't borrow other teams players if there was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 The guest system is one of the flaws of speedway, not arguing against that but difficult to find an alternative and you certainly can't just change it for the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 The guest system is one of the flaws of speedway, not arguing against that but difficult to find an alternative and you certainly can't just change it for the play offs. In a sport that is obsessed with making every team as equal as possible it is very difficult to see any alternative. The only other alternative is squads, and with riders been paid on performance again I don't see how that would be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 It is rather ironic that the only reason Play-offs were brought in to the PL in the first place was that SKY said they would show the Final LIVE, then changed their minds. Despite the fact SKY show a few meetings through the season, they have no interest, it seems, in showing the 'important' PL stuff!! Don't feel singled out as they have no interest in showing much of the EL either. If you're not Wolves or Poole you apparently don't matter. Same with any big company - they do what they want and to hell with everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) No play offs in football but they wouldn't borrow other teams players if there was Sure i attended the play off final at Wembley in May, and some of our players belonged to other clubs Edited October 23, 2016 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I don't think you can compare speedway to football, they are two entirely different sports. Footballers sign a contract to which will regardless them a guaranteed wage qin lose or draw. Speedway riders are paid on performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Not exactly how it happens though is it HT. The team that finishes top are the Champions. The runners up remain the runners up and are also promoted. Teams 3 to 6 then do the play offs to secure the third promotion position. So the teams that have ground out the most points over the 46 games go up, with a little playoff comp for third to sixth. Where this would be barmy would be if the top 6 had to compete in a play off for promotion and be declared champs as well so the sixth place team could go up and be declared Champions, sound familiar. The three PL teams that are in trouble at the moment ( think it's two now ), I don't know their financial state but I doubt that being in the rip offs would have made much difference. They appear to have an attendance problem on a weekly basis, a couple of good gates ain't gonna make much difference. A little play off ? http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11689/10295845/the-price-of-championship-play-off-promotion-the-richest-game-in-football According to this article, Sheffield Wednesday missed out on £170m when they lost to Hull last season. £170m. Not for nothing do they describe the Championship play off final as the 'richest game in football'. Ok, so they don't decide on the league that day but winning and losing in the Championship play off competition is probably more important. As Scotchopper points out, many other sports operate the play offs - speedway is anything but alone. They are there for one reason and one reason alone - the attendances they pull in. If they didn't make a substantial difference in financial terms, we simply wouldn't have them. 'BIGGEST CROWD HERE APART FROM THE PL PAIRS MEETINGS FOR YEARS'. Taken from the speedway updates site referring to the PL play off final tonight. Ask Debbie whether that makes a difference or not if you get the chance. In a sport that is obsessed with making every team as equal as possible it is very difficult to see any alternative. The only other alternative is squads, and with riders been paid on performance again I don't see how that would be possible. That's precisely the point. The guest system might be flawed, but what's the alternative ? Very easy to come on here and whine about it but not one single credible (or even incredible) solution proposed. Lets see if we can get an answer : What were Sheffield supposed to do ? Edited October 27, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 As well as your own squad, you could name 2 riders(probably assets or riders your fans are familiar with) that can guest at any time up to a max of 4 times per year. Once used or if takes you above team/rider CMA limits then you have to use a NL rider. Closest you will get to squad system with the amount of riders available & familiarity for fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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