Ald64 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Not a good thing to read about lets hope the rider's can put this behind them or it could jeopardise morale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 If I was Sedgmen I'd score 000 in every meeting for the rest of the season 😂😂 Starting this Thursday will be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Â It is simple. A multiple team change is actually a set of 1-for-1 changes all being done together. You can stay above the points limit, as long as each 1-for-1 change is legal. I can't see how it can be much simpler. Â All the best Rob Perhaps to stop this sort of spectacle occurring again riders should be contracted for whole season and only allow changes for injuries and retirements which in turn would give riders a little bit of security and a bit of faith under the management they are being employed by , I think riders are entitled to this. Then it's up to promotions to get there team building correct from the off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailays Hat Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 If I was Sedgmen I'd score 000 in every meeting for the rest of the season  He's pretty much been doing this for a good while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) louis is a dummy . Â keep yor scores really low and get back to headinbra next season . Â but in the meantime .score what you want , especially in those must win races for the fikshall watches . Â hit em where it hurts sedgy... . Edited July 30, 2017 by jenga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 ecus a professional  If I was Sedgmen I'd score 000 in every meeting for the rest of the season 😂😂 Hardly likely to do that as he would be paid by the point as despite what some numptys thing he is a professional rider, be good if he was in the position to tell them to jam it though.  Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Hahahahaha oh dear Ippo promotion, how silly do you look now absolute nursery school stuff, as Rob has said, changing 2 for 2 has been like that for years, if a promotion don't know that, it's worrying! Â Welcome back Sedge and Conor anyway....... frosty pits next time round for the summer I feel...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Oh dear oh dear oh dear 😩😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Looks very much like the BSPA had approved the change otherwise why would you tell riders that they were being dropped? Then the BSPA did a u turn after it was pointed out the change was illegal. Both the BSPA & Ipswich look like clowns. Hats of to Connor in the way he has conducted himself in public. Â My main concern now is how this will effect us signing riders for next season & the chances of Connor coming back as he & Hume should both be dead certs. Â It would be interesting to know who was coming can rule Gino out after the comments Louis made last week about not enough time to complete the paperwork for him? Or was that a smoke screen & Gino & another certain young yank were both coming in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Only if you read them. And have someone on side who makes the decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Looks very much like the BSPA had approved the change otherwise why would you tell riders that they were being dropped? Then the BSPA did a u turn after it was pointed out the change was illegal. Both the BSPA & Ipswich look like clowns. Hats of to Connor in the way he has conducted himself in public. Â My main concern now is how this will effect us signing riders for next season & the chances of Connor coming back as he & Hume should both be dead certs. Â It would be interesting to know who was coming can rule Gino out after the comments Louis made last week about not enough time to complete the paperwork for him? Or was that a smoke screen & Gino & another certain young yank were both coming in? Â I don't think it had anything to do with the BSPA. They simply seem to have turned down Ippo's illegal team. Â At the end of the day, it is down to the promoter to know the basic team-building rules. Â All the best Rob 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Â I don't think it had anything to do with the BSPA. They simply seem to have turned down Ippo's illegal team. Â At the end of the day, it is down to the promoter to know the basic team-building rules. Â All the best Rob and this one is the most basic of all and very plainly written 😩Â Unbelievable shambles! Â Edit The only way the BSPA has any question to answer is if they originally indicated acceptance. Wouldnt make the request anymore ridiculous though. Edited July 31, 2017 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Wonder if they were using last year's rule book and trying to fit into a 42.5 limit? Â Nah probably not. Â Probably just thought we'll replace 2 riders who total n.nn with a different 2 who total no more than n.nn and we'll be good to go. Â Err no, read the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I know nothing about the rules. But reading what you lot have said, wouldn't it be sensible to replace one rider one day, then the other one 2 days later. Or does rule 15, section 13B, sub section 47K not allow this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I know nothing about the rules. But reading what you lot have said, wouldn't it be sensible to replace one rider one day, then the other one 2 days later. Or does rule 15, section 13B, sub section 47K not allow this?You're average is 44.30, if you replace Sedge (6.67) for Tungate (eg) (5.72) that makes your team average 43.35 you cannot then upgrade Connor Mountain to a better averaged rider it has to be to the same average as him as you are over 40 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 You're average is 44.30, if you replace Sedge (6.67) for Tungate (eg) (5.72) that makes your team average 43.35 you cannot then upgrade Connor Mountain to a better averaged rider it has to be to the same average as him as you are over 40 points. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Is Mike Smillie still there? There isn't a single thing that bloke doesn't know about stats and the rule book and I know that everything Ipswich do goes through him before any plans are submitted. There is simply no way that Mike would have made this mistake. Â My only guess is that he somehow was not involved in this debacle and the results are quite frankly embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, even though it ended up being a total f*** up I for one actually applaud the attempt to change the team to hopefully improve it. Although I would have loved to know exactly what the changes would have been. Â Obviously something went wrong somewhere with the proposal, we may find out but we may not. We just need to make the most of what we have now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Perhaps to stop this sort of spectacle occurring again riders should be contracted for whole season and only allow changes for injuries and retirements which in turn would give riders a little bit of security and a bit of faith under the management they are being employed by , I think riders are entitled to this. Then it's up to promotions to get there team building correct from the off. The idea this season of dropping back to 40 with changes was to dissuade promotions from wholesale changes. I wonder how many teams would have changed more, but decided for a simple one for one or just stuck by what they had. I think the latter would be Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 The idea this season of dropping back to 40 with changes was to dissuade promotions from wholesale changes. I wonder how many teams would have changed more, but decided for a simple one for one or just stuck by what they had. I think the latter would be Newcastle. Okay... I have to ask... Why didn't you "stick with what you had" in Dan Greenwood then rather than change him for Alfie Bowtell following the decent meeting he had guesting for Berwick? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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