THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 In my opinion a massive downgrade on Covatti and a lot better available, I've nothing against the guy and I know you are his mechanic but I just think they could get better, Adam's slightly passed it now I think and despite being a good speedway rider over a long period of time is on his way down now, which is no suprise when you look at his age. Like I say nothing against him and if it is him then I wish him well.fair enough Must admit I would be a bit concerned if it is Skornicki going on his start to this year. However just how much was down to equipment and how much was down to him is hard to judge from outside. No doubting his quality previously but is that still in him? it was equipment which has now been replaced with GMs and obviously people didn't take notice of his performances when the engines did work , but hey ho , hope you get someone who makes you happy 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) and exactly what is the problem if it were skornicki ??Nah not for me Dean. Edited May 1, 2017 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) fair enough it was equipment which has now been replaced with GMs and obviously people didn't take notice of his performances when the engines did work , but hey ho , hope you get someone who makes you happyAh the old "it wasn't him it was his equipment" excuse that's so often trotted out. Skornicki always looked a strange choice for Wolves and surprise surprise he was crap. A half decent rider in his day and would have been a good signing a few years ago, not now. Edited May 1, 2017 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Ah the old "it wasn't him it was his equipment" excuse that's so often trotted out. Skornicki always looked a strange choice for Wolves and surprise surprise he was crap. Â A half decent rider in his day and would have been a good signing a few years ago, not now. ah the old not seeing the bigger picture of what's gone on , on his first away league match at rye house when the engine worked ok even though we still had problems before the meeting was he crap ?? , just incase you were asleep Adam was trailing a different engine to everyone else in world speedway , there are only 6 of these engines made , Adam had 3 , unfortunately for Adam the engines proved to problematic and in hindsight he shouldn't of tried them ,but I will make this statement about the engine , had it worked 100% other riders would of been soon complaining that it was an unfair advantage , so in this instance it was clearly the engine , not the set up , not the engine didn't suit him or any other excuse , the engines have a fault and it happens at every meeting but I bow to your supierior knowledge on all matters speedway related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No doubt Adam regrets trying those now. Â I will be the first to admit I have zero mechanical knowledge (I leave that to bruv) Â It never ceases to amaze me the frustrations that can be caused by what seems to be the simplest of problems so to have a completely new design playing up must be a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No doubt Adam regrets trying those now. Â I will be the first to admit I have zero mechanical knowledge (I leave that to bruv) Â It never ceases to amaze me the frustrations that can be caused by what seems to be the simplest of problems so to have a completely new design playing up must be a nightmare. he does regret it now , I won't go into the money it's not my place to say but Adam was renting the engines per race , so he didn't have to buy them or service them so if they had worked it would of been a great deal that maybe would if caught on in speedway but as we know now it turned out to be a bad idea Edited May 1, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Regarding Danyon and his average. I wonder if Ipswich could declare him as riding in a meeting, he misses the 2 minutes in 3 rides. I'd say it technically counts as three rides, 0 points and 1 meeting. So if he's a meeting short of getting an average it could be a backdoor way of getting him a 4+ average. The issue is finding a 4 pointer to replace him. Nobody stands out so it might not be worth getting him a higher average yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Regarding Danyon and his average. I wonder if Ipswich could declare him as riding in a meeting, he misses the 2 minutes in 3 rides. I'd say it technically counts as three rides, 0 points and 1 meeting. So if he's a meeting short of getting an average it could be a backdoor way of getting him a 4+ average. The issue is finding a 4 pointer to replace him. Nobody stands out so it might not be worth getting him a higher average yet.What is his average now 4.57 or 5.03 ? Edited May 1, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 What is his average now 4.56 or 5.03 ?My figures are a few weeks out of date but he's nearer 4.5 than 5 adding on the extra meetings in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Regarding Danyon and his average. I wonder if Ipswich could declare him as riding in a meeting, he misses the 2 minutes in 3 rides. I'd say it technically counts as three rides, 0 points and 1 meeting. So if he's a meeting short of getting an average it could be a backdoor way of getting him a 4+ average. The issue is finding a 4 pointer to replace him. Nobody stands out so it might not be worth getting him a higher average yet.From a selfish team perspective it would make the idea of getting him the revised average from his 7 meetings desirable (currently 4.57) if we have to redeclare. Particularly as he has had the 4 away and is averaging over 7 at home it is hardly over egging the figure.  Looking at it from his point of view especially if it turns out he misses the season that would mean him being a less attractive prospect than his current 2. A classic problem for many 2nd season British youngsters. (First on my team sheet even on that higher figure btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 My figures are a few weeks out of date but he's nearer 4.5 than 5 adding on the extra meetings in my head. 4.57 according to SpeedwayGB - their averages, in fairness, are kept quite up to date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sounds a bit shady to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sounds a bit shady to me!thats the Monarchs default position so I bow yo your superior knowledge/experience of such matters. 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 From a selfish team perspective it would make the idea of getting him the revised average from his 7 meetings desirable (currently 4.57) if we have to redeclare. Particularly as he has had the 4 away and is averaging over 7 at home it is hardly over egging the figure. Looking at it from his point of view especially if it turns out he misses the season that would mean him being a less attractive prospect than his current 2. A classic problem for many 2nd season British youngsters. (First on my team sheet even on that higher figure btw) I would be surprised if the MC made a special case out of him especially considering Rob Godfrey went through something similiar last year with a rider one match short of getting an average and getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 My figures are a few weeks out of date but he's nearer 4.5 than 5 adding on the extra meetings in my head.I think the 5.03 is with BP hard to replace the best 2 pointer in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 I would be surprised if the MC made a special case out of him especially considering Rob Godfrey went through something similiar last year with a rider one match short of getting an average and getting hurt.I would be surprised too. Which Scunny rider you thinking of? Cant think of one that wouldve increased from the original assessed to be a similar case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpecialOne Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 ah the old not seeing the bigger picture of what's gone on , on his first away league match at rye house when the engine worked ok even though we still had problems before the meeting was he crap ?? , just incase you were asleep Adam was trailing a different engine to everyone else in world speedway , there are only 6 of these engines made , Adam had 3 , unfortunately for Adam the engines proved to problematic and in hindsight he shouldn't of tried them ,but I will make this statement about the engine , had it worked 100% other riders would of been soon complaining that it was an unfair advantage , so in this instance it was clearly the engine , not the set up , not the engine didn't suit him or any other excuse , the engines have a fault and it happens at every meeting but I bow to your supierior knowledge on all matters speedway related  Quick question, were Wolves aware of Skornicki's equipment plans when they offered him a contract for this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Â Quick question, were Wolves aware of Skornicki's equipment plans when they offered him a contract for this season? I honestly don't know , they claim not to know but he did use the engines when he came over at the end of last season and they seemed happy enough when we were at rye house and against Coventry and scored good points on them ,it was certainly no secret on our part ,there is more I could say but I don't want to , it's done ,they have made their decisions and we move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Well if it was engine issues that caused Skornicki to perform so crap, I'm sure now those issues have been eradicated he will be inundated with offers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Sedgman needs more rides. He likes your track, you never know 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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