mickthemuppet Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 There is nothing wrong with this Ipswich team which I hope they will win the league and be promoted back to where they should be in the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Anyone know why Heeps isn't in the Australian champs?Logistics and finance. £25 a point and no travel expenses.  4 rounds over 10 days thousands of miles from home.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 That explains that then. Must cost a fortune to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 That explains that then. Must cost a fortune to take part. It does , Jake Allen also didnt want to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 That explains that then. Must cost a fortune to take part.over 5 grand out of pocket when he did do it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 What are the chances of Ipswich entering a MDL side this year? With teams based at K.Lynn,P'Boro & Mildenhall it would create plenty of local rivalry and offer the chance to unearth future assets/2 point reserves plus additional value for money that all fans are craving these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm gonna hazard a guess at probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm gonna hazard a guess at probably not  Sadly i suspect you are right. Very disappointing really as far too few clubs take responsibility for developing new riders (not a dig solely at Ipswich there are far too many guilty parties). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017  Sadly i suspect you are right. Very disappointing really as far too few clubs take responsibility for developing new riders (not a dig solely at Ipswich there are far too many guilty parties). Have to agree with you but Ipswich are not alone , too many clubs tend to disregard it as a must when all clubs should be looking to develop there own talent and giving them every opportunity to progress, after all they are the future of the sport. Ged Rathbone wanted to include National league racing at Peterborough at an added cost of maybe £3 but supporters at meeting didn't want to know , good value IMO but you have to respect peoples views so maybe we will see MDL meetings hopefully. All clubs should want to invest for the future and I can't think of a better way than bringing on your own talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Have to agree with you but Ipswich are not alone , too many clubs tend to disregard it as a must when all clubs should be looking to develop there own talent and giving them every opportunity to progress, after all they are the future of the sport. Ged Rathbone wanted to include National league racing at Peterborough at an added cost of maybe £3 but supporters at meeting didn't want to know , good value IMO but you have to respect peoples views so maybe we will see MDL meetings hopefully. All clubs should want to invest for the future and I can't think of a better way than bringing on your own talent  Fingers crossed Ged can get a couple of NL challenge matches on this season to see if it can drum up more support. A quick look at the 2017 championship sides shows 9 ex MDL riders who have progressed through the ranks including both Ipswich reserves so it shows the value of the work done by the few who actually bother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiqueSteve Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Â Sadly i suspect you are right. Very disappointing really as far too few clubs take responsibility for developing new riders (not a dig solely at Ipswich there are far too many guilty parties). Don't forget that Ipswich had an awful lot to do with the new era at Mildenhall and whilst Kevin has gone on to develop Mildenhall on his own there are still very close links between the two clubs (Cameron Heeps and Connor Mountain for example in recent times) but Chris did a hell of alot when it first changed over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The problems for Ipswich are how can you develop and produce youngsters to the sport when Foxhall is restricted to 55 meetings per year.There is also a restriction of a curfew(22.15 I think) So how can you let youngsters practice and learn their craft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The problems for Ipswich are how can you develop and produce youngsters to the sport when Foxhall is restricted to 55 meetings per year.There is also a restriction of a curfew(22.15 I think) So how can you let youngsters practice and learn their craft  The curfew could well cause a problem although im certain Ipswich have hosted MDL matches in the past even as a guest venue? What time do meetings usually conclude? If its a case that its not physically possible then so be it but i can assure you that 6 MDL heats would be concluded quicker than the first 6 of most league meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The problems for Ipswich are how can you develop and produce youngsters to the sport when Foxhall is restricted to 55 meetings per year.There is also a restriction of a curfew(22.15 I think) So how can you let youngsters practice and learn their craftrestriction of no more than 2 events in any 8 day rolling period as well I believe. Â The curfew could well cause a problem although im certain Ipswich have hosted MDL matches in the past even as a guest venue? What time do meetings usually conclude? If its a case that its not physically possible then so be it but i can assure you that 6 MDL heats would be concluded quicker than the first 6 of most league meetings. we did indeed host a few meetings.Agree that time to the curfew should not be an issue 9 yimes out of 10. No reason why a meeting starting at 7.45 shouldnt be complete by 9.15/9.30 allowing time for 6 MDL heats. Â The other general logistics (and costs) of running a team are the unknown for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 restriction of no more than 2 events in any 8 day rolling period as well I believe. we did indeed host a few meetings. Agree that time to the curfew should not be an issue 9 yimes out of 10. No reason why a meeting starting at 7.45 shouldnt be complete by 9.15/9.30 allowing time for 6 MDL heats. Â The other general logistics (and costs) of running a team are the unknown for me. Â As far as im aware the only requirements of a club hosting an MDL side is the provision of drinking water (in fact i believe a plastic cup and tap suffices). The team manager needs to be a BSPA member (plenty of those about) and possibly a nominal entry fee (certainly shouldn't be much if anything at all). The riders receive nothing in terms of financial payment or travelling expenses although i believe some teams may supply methanol. All the junior league riders generally want is the chance to get some competitive laps in, be treated with a little respect by clubs and the occasional compliment from the spectators who choose to remain and watch. Doesn't sound like a lot to ask to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Â As far as im aware the only requirements of a club hosting an MDL side is the provision of drinking water (in fact i believe a plastic cup and tap suffices). The team manager needs to be a BSPA member (plenty of those about) and possibly a nominal entry fee (certainly shouldn't be much if anything at all). The riders receive nothing in terms of financial payment or travelling expenses although i believe some teams may supply methanol. All the junior league riders generally want is the chance to get some competitive laps in, be treated with a little respect by clubs and the occasional compliment from the spectators who choose to remain and watch. Doesn't sound like a lot to ask to me. Maybe if teams had parades at say 7.15 or 7.20 with a strictly adhered start time of 7.30 then 6 heats of MDL racing could be achievable in most cases but it needs the desire of promotions to make it successful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ipswich have a noise curfew start time to, 7.10 I believe is earliest engine warm up time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Maybe if teams had parades at say 7.15 or 7.20 with a strictly adhered start time of 7.30 then 6 heats of MDL racing could be achievable in most cases but it needs the desire of promotions to make it successful. Â I think most supporters would appreciate the start time to actually be adhered to. Rider presentation doesn't have to include bikes? Perhaps the SCB/BSPA could offer a reduced league entry cost if any club has junior league racing? Obviously those with unworkable curfews cannot accommodate it but i think most would agree that more effort by current promoters needs to be invested in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Today's eadt with Danny and Kyle  http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich_witches_will_have_a_target_on_their_backs_says_british_champion_danny_king_1_4839724 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Berwick have a curfew of 9.30 yet still have a team in the NJL and also always have time for about 45 minutes worth of junior practise when there is no NJL meeting (with exceptions for when an ambulance is needed) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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