Arch Stanton Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 you'll be fine against top heavy sides , but we'll see where you stand against a side with strength and depth , you could look at it different ways king should average 10 heeps should average 7 schlein theres plenty of enough ifs and buts newman been around 6.5- 7 average for years can't see why everybody thinks he'll be great signing covatti can't see any increase in his average reserves 2pt gambles Reserves are not 2 point gambles. Whichever of the two lads will be at 7 will compare favourably against any other number 7 in the league. The only gamble is going with another at 6 when some teams will on paper have a stronger reserve. As has been said though, there are high hopes for both reserves particularly Hume as we've already seen first hand what he can do. He's made incredible progress in such a short space of time and it's becoming increasingly obvious, what Danny King and CL saw in the lad to make him a club asset when he was a wobbling Rye reserve! I'm not in to making predictions as in this sport things can go pear shaped very quickly, but we'll no doubt start the season as one of the favourites along with Sheffield and possibly Glasgow if they finish their team well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Looks a good side but how many times have we seen this from Ipswich in the PL? Ever since that first season in 2011 when on paper they had a team who should have walked the league they have underachieved. Two two pointers at reserve is a risk although I think both could do very well. Newman and Schlein are also risky for their own reasons but on paper at least this side should be up there challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 So are we saying the team is: King Heeps Schlien Newman Covatti Mountain Hume. Looks decent enough to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 So are we saying the team is: King Heeps Schlien Newman Covatti Mountain Hume. Looks decent enough to me That's the one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Grondal signed for you yet? thought thats swindons job ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Too much speculation for my liking. Presumably whatever the line up is tomorrow this thread may well melt! As I said previously I just want last season's form and atmosphere to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 So are we saying the team is: King Heeps Schlien Newman Covatti Mountain Hume. Looks decent enough to me Thats a fantastic team, would be massifly happy with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thats a fantastic team, would be massifly happy with thatagree Baldy. If thats what it is then Chris and Ritchie deserve a huge pat on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 If this is the worst kept secret around and does turn out to be the team it should be quite an effective one although I still have some reservations about the two reserves both coming back from nasty injuries. Also I hope Heeps likes the promised by CL forthcoming track changes, and him learning how to gate might be handy as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Very competitive looking team is the one suggested is correct, a very strong top 5 and 2 reserves with loads of potential! everyone to me seems to be saying how weak having 2 2pointers at reserve may be, but it's not different to me than other years when the limit has been 42.50 and the same riders coming through from the national leagues came in on 3.00 averages, not unheard of for teams in the past to have started with two 3.00 men in the past, and both proved themselves most capable, and not fearful of anyone last year in the few meetings they did ride for us. In addition to that with the likes of jack smith, jack pb, josh bailey already signed up and likely several more of the same ilk to follow they're going to be having to beat mostly riders they have been coming up against in the national league anyway, not sure with a short team building limit many will have room for a big reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 So are we saying the team is: King Heeps Schlien Newman Covatti Mountain Hume. Looks decent enough to me This the team for next season ? thought we were meant to find out tomorrow night ? any way I'd be more than happy with this team if it's correct . Fingers crossed it's what is posted on Facebook tomorrow night and not someone having a wind up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hope this leek is correct & that tomorrow it does not turnip to be different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Ipswich seem the team to beat every season since they have raced at this level but rarely deliver on the hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hope this leek is correct & that tomorrow it does not turnip to be different.like it - a twist on the lettuce theme 👍 It would certainly provide a carrot to attend and hopefully could provide us with some swede memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) This the team for next season ? thought we were meant to find out tomorrow night ? any way I'd be more than happy with this team if it's correct . Fingers crossed it's what is posted on Facebook tomorrow night and not someone having a wind up .If i was an ipswich fan i would have serious reservations about that team. King and newman good signings,schlein returning from another big injury think he will be surprised at level of riding and the general toughness,heeps well you got rid of him last season so that would suggest foxhole has issues for him plus seems to run out of steam,machinery and money as season goes on,covatti not as good as previous season probably needs new club to kick on,2reserves untried at this level could workout but a gamble. Hope you guys will be happy with your team when announced and good luck from down here in devon. Edited November 27, 2016 by lewy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) If i was an ipswich fan i would have serious reservations about that team. King and newman good signings,schlein returning from another big injury think he will be surprised at level of riding and the general toughness,heeps well you got rid of him last season so that would suggest foxhole has issues for him plus seems to run out of steam,machinery and money as season goes on,covatti not as good as previous season probably needs new club to kick on,2reserves untried at this level could workout but a gamble. Hope you guys will be happy with your team when announced and good luck from down here in devon.That seems like a glass half empty look to me. Is Schlein really a gamble on a shade over 7? I don't think he is personally and there is a far bigger potential upshot in having him than not. If he was on a converted 8-9 then quite possibly, but even if he finds it tougher than he expects I'd still expect him to hold his average at the very least. You could argue that the team doesn't look much if any, weaker than the side that finished strongly last season and finished on over 46 points. If this is the team, then they've done very well getting that below 40.00 IMO. Edited November 27, 2016 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpecialOne Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 If i was an ipswich fan i would have serious reservations about that team. King and newman good signings,schlein returning from another big injury think he will be surprised at level of riding and the general toughness,heeps well you got rid of him last season so that would suggest foxhole has issues for him plus seems to run out of steam,machinery and money as season goes on,covatti not as good as previous season probably needs new club to kick on,2reserves untried at this level could workout but a gamble. Hope you guys will be happy with your team when announced and good luck from down here in devon. I think your observations on Heeps could well be true. He really hasn't progressed in the last two years and has gone backwards if anything. Not convinced by his inclusion (if true). The top 5 needs to score the bulk of the points, pressure should not be put on the 2 young reserves, however it's hard to see who in that top 5 will actually increase their average which is usually the need of a successful team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If that's the team then it should make the play-offs but I also fail to see what all the fuss is about. There's a decent top 5, but the secret to winning speedway teams is riders who increase their averages and not many in that side look like they will. Schlein should but he's coming back from a nasty injury, Heeps could but he's failed to deliver at Foxall before, King & Covatti are on figures that are about right and Newman has been a 6.5-7pt PL rider for a couple of years now. Then the reserves have potential but it's putting added pressure on both by not having a senior reserve and when one of the top 5 is missing due to a Premiership fixture R/R will seriously weaken the Witches (especially if Newman is missing) and if a rider got injured during a meeting then there's not much cover for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If that's the team then it should make the play-offs but I also fail to see what all the fuss is about. There's a decent top 5, but the secret to winning speedway teams is riders who increase their averages and not many in that side look like they will. Schlein should but he's coming back from a nasty injury, Heeps could but he's failed to deliver at Foxall before, King & Covatti are on figures that are about right and Newman has been a 6.5-7pt PL rider for a couple of years now. Then the reserves have potential but it's putting added pressure on both by not having a senior reserve and when one of the top 5 is missing due to a Premiership fixture R/R will seriously weaken the Witches (especially if Newman is missing) and if a rider got injured during a meeting then there's not much cover for him.Heeps actually went backwards during his one season away from Foxhall so he might be glad to get back there. Again the above seems a glass half empty look at things than a glass half full. You could also say exactly the same about the other two fancied sides so far, Sheffield and Glasgow. Is there any average improvement in Worrall Summers and Lawson? Not for me there isn't. And Only Bjerre looks to have an average increase at Sheffield but you could also throw the same accusations at him that he's heading in the wrong direction average wise. Howarth you could lump in the same bracket as Newman, and in Bates you have a rider that stagnated this year and has already publicly stated that he didnt want to return there next season! The glass half full version you could argue in Sheffields case at least, that Bjerre's average is due to an injury hit season so plenty of improvement in him, Bates still has youth on his side and will have a point to prove etc etc. Two ways of looking at every side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 My impression of why Cameron was farmed out to another team was to give the lad experience away from foxhall to toughening the lad up and I think he got that experience, I really think Cam will have a good year. As for the two young lads at reserve if they up there avaerage by 2pts you can't argue, to be honest you ideally want a 4-2 from the reserves race a 5-1 is a big bonus, 3-3 is an ok result, but the young lads are going to be under pressure for the first few meetings so I feel we have to give them time to gain the experience, they don't want us the supporters on their back. If they score 6 or 7 pts between them the first few Matches they will have done well and it gives them and the rest of the team confidence to move forward Who is our No. 8 would that be Connor Coles, I was impressed with him great gater just needs to sort his lines out and be a bit more smoother through the corners a real tryer to be honest the lad try's to hard but that is down to inexperience he has a great future ahead of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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