waiheke1 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I think if Leicester track a similar team with average heatleaders and strong reserves in this new format for 2017, I can see them holding their own well as most top teams will probably look at weak reserves to accommodate their GP stars.given only 4 riders who were regulars last year are in the gp in 17, not sure you can say most teams are accommodating gp stars. agree most sides will be weak at reserve though. BUT note Leicester need to drop about points to fit the 50 point limit. And I can see Klindt Hougaard and starke being in demand from other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 given only 4 riders who were regulars last year are in the gp in 17, not sure you can say most teams are accommodating gp stars. agree most sides will be weak at reserve though. BUT note Leicester need to drop about points to fit the 50 point limit. And I can see Klindt Hougaard and starke being in demand from other teams. That's a fair point. I think Leicester has a big problem attracting these riders back after last years problems and riders waiting for payments. Who is going to want to risk riding for them as a) Am I going to get paid on time and Am I secure riding for this club or is there a possibility they could go broke halfway through the season. Why Leicester haven't gone CL or NL has really confused me and seems like a case of heart over head in financial terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 That's a fair point. I think Leicester has a big problem attracting these riders back after last years problems and riders waiting for payments. Who is going to want to risk riding for them as a) Am I going to get paid on time and Am I secure riding for this club or is there a possibility they could go broke halfway through the season. Why Leicester haven't gone CL or NL has really confused me and seems like a case of heart over head in financial terms. Don't forget, it will be a "New Broom" Riders shouldn't carry payment issues from one promotion to another, it's just the same as moving to a different track? If we have problems, Belle Vue's are going to be pretty much insurmountable regarding signing riders, shale suppliers, landlords, etc!!! A new promotion, shouldn't show scars from the previous promotion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Don't forget, it will be a "New Broom" Riders shouldn't carry payment issues from one promotion to another, it's just the same as moving to a different track? If we have problems, Belle Vue's are going to be pretty much insurmountable regarding signing riders, shale suppliers, landlords, etc!!! A new promotion, shouldn't show scars from the previous promotion.... Would be nice to learn a bit more about our New Broom Carl. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Would be nice to learn a bit more about our New Broom Carl. Any ideas? Yes, sworn to secrecy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Whoever the new brooms are (if there are any) they seem to have inherited the previous promotion's public relations skills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Whoever the new brooms are (if there are any) they seem to have inherited the previous promotion's public relations skills! Very true, what is the huge problem letting the fans know who and what is going on at BP. Why all the big hush hush secretiveness, just the same as it has always been. It would be far better for who ever it is that is taking over to let the fans know that they are actually pulling alongside them not against them as the case has been in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 LEICESTER 1 Patrick Hougaard 8.71 2 Szymon Wozniak 8.27 3 Ludvig Lindgren 7.65 4 Josh Auty 7.10 5 Paul Starke 6.62 6 Lewis Kerr 6.16 7 Nicolai Klindt 5.42 Total 49.93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemeanie39 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 For all the Lions fans that wanted to drop down a league you may get what you wished for with the introduction of promotion and relegation next year ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) There are still t's to be crossed and I's to be dotted. When everything is clear to the new promotors. The fans will be told. Give them a chance its only a week since the AGM. Edited November 8, 2016 by speedflash 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thanks Speediflash. If something on the lines that you have said here had been posted on the Lions wesite I would have satisfied! I am quite easily pleased. It just seems very unprofessional to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) How can it be unprofessional. These things take time to sort out. Councils don't do things quickly Contracts to be drawn up signed. ect. Plus what makes you think that there is only one group vying for the right to promote. Edited November 8, 2016 by speedflash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 How can it be unprofessional. These things take time to sort out. Councils don't do things quickly Contracts to be drawn up signed. ect. Whilst the signing and transfer of ownership/promotion may take time as you say and lack of general updates in that regard may not be classed as unprofessional,on the back of a thoroughly unprofessional closing couple of months or so, with unfulfilled fixtures, public losing money and riders not being paid, surely a tad of openness would bbea good start. With the way the previous or current owners/promotion treated the sport and public, it may have been nice for an update or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Whilst the signing and transfer of ownership/promotion may take time as you say and lack of general updates in that regard may not be classed as unprofessional,on the back of a thoroughly unprofessional closing couple of months or so, with unfulfilled fixtures, public losing money and riders not being paid, surely a tad of openness would bbea good start. With the way the previous or current owners/promotion treated the sport and public, it may have been nice for an update or two. If anyone is to be blamed, blame the BSPA!!! As far as I am aware, they are in control of everything Leicester Lions at the moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Except the stadium!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's perfectly understandable and right that details of negotiations, including identities, are witheld until the ink is dry on the contracts. But it can't be too difficult to just say something basic such as "negotiations with prospective new promoters are currently taking place"......I think that's all that is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's perfectly understandable and right that details of negotiations, including identities, are witheld until the ink is dry on the contracts. But it can't be too difficult to just say something basic such as "negotiations with prospective new promoters are currently taking place"......I think that's all that is needed. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 'negotiations with prospective new promoters are currently taking place!' - probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 How can it be unprofessional. These things take time to sort out. Councils don't do things quickly Contracts to be drawn up signed. ect. Plus what makes you think that there is only one group vying for the right to promote. The City Council is involved then? (image of a snail comes to mind). Does this mean that DH's company is relinquishing its lease, or maybe the lease is being revoked? There would seem to be no shortage of grounds for invoking the latter. If I were a prospective new promoter, having DH's company as landlord would be an off-putting factor - in fact I wouldn't touch it with the world's longest bargepole 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Before the BSPA’s AGM Dave Darcy was on Radio Leicester telling fans that Leicester would be running in the top league in 2017, that a new sponsor was on board and that the riders would be paid before the AGM. He also said that he did not know if he would be involved next season. After the AGM the BSPA issued a statement saying that, amongst other things, Leicester would be running a team in the top league next season. They also published a picture of Dave Darcy sitting in a group with fellow promoters. Bearing in mind that Lakeside withdrew because they could not guarantee that they could run in 2017 someone must have given the BSPA AGM the necessary guarantees on Leicester’s behalf. Speedflash says “How can it be unprofessional. These things take time to sort out. Councils don't do things quickly. Contracts to be drawn up signed. ect. Plus what makes you think that there is only one group vying for the right to promote.” I assume from all this that there is not a new promotion in place yet at Leicester and that the necessary guarantees must have been given by the existing promotion. The current promoters shown on the Speedway Control Bureau’s web site (on a list dated 9th September 2016) are David Hemsley (yes I know he is supposed to have resigned as promoter), David Darcy and Neil Machin. If last season’s promoters are still in charge perhaps they can tell us what’s going on. As I, and others have said on here, we don’t want detailed nitty gritty just some news that things are in hand and that an announcement about who will be running Leicester Speedway next season will be made (hopefully) shortly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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