Leicester Lions 2017

[Leicester Lion]

Fair enough. Shame none of those "you know about" got it up and running.

We can all talk about we can do this better, it's easy enough to do.

All we know is one man put his money where his mouth is, the rest did nothing I assume.

 

Anyway this is getting all a bit personal so let's leave it there.

You know people who would have been involved and I have respect for someone who gave speedway back to Leicester.

It's not about a points scoring opportunity.

I just don't get the venom sprayed DH's way personally after what he made happen.

 

Like I say, I'm not looking to score points.

It reads like you are to me. You mentioned those with "small" (presumably you meant "short") memories, whoever they are. Those with longer memories would of course remember the tireless work done by others to bring about Leicester's return before DH moved into the limelight.

[speedibee]

It reads like you are to me. You mentioned those with "small" (presumably you meant "short") memories, whoever they are. Those with longer memories would of course remember the tireless work done by others to bring about Leicester's return before DH moved into the limelight.

In the fullness of time ,as always does , the truth will out ,

[Gemini]

Sure about what? ?

 

Sure about your comment 'without DH there would be no Speedway in Leicester to talk about.' There were others involved ~ one being Ken Naylor ~ but there's not much point reeling names off because you wouldn't know who they are anyway.

 

And yet you liked to watch 'Naked Attraction'?

Blimey! You've got a good memory. I keep waiting for the second series but perhaps they can't get enough volunteers to make one.

[stevebrum]

Sure about your comment 'without DH there would be no Speedway in Leicester to talk about.' There were others involved ~ one being Ken Naylor ~ but there's not much point reeling names off because you wouldn't know who they are anyway.

 

 

Of course there were people keeping the pressure on to bring speedway back, just like their was with Birmingham.

So not disrespecting any of those involved in that process of that's the tone you have taken.

 

It still needs someone with the ability, money and power to make it happen.

[Pogo1]

It certainly does, just a pity certain riders are still owed money from last season.

[Gambo]

Sure about your comment 'without DH there would be no Speedway in Leicester to talk about.' There were others involved ~ one being Ken Naylor ~ but there's not much point reeling names off because you wouldn't know who they are anyway.

 

Blimey! You've got a good memory. I keep waiting for the second series but perhaps they can't get enough volunteers to make one.

Fear not Gem, I saw an advert in the paper the other day asking for volunteers/participants for a second series of Naked Attraction.

[SCB]

Blimey! You've got a good memory. I keep waiting for the second series but perhaps they can't get enough volunteers to make one.

 

 

Fear not Gem, I saw an advert in the paper the other day asking for volunteers/participants for a second series of Naked Attraction.

And I can't be a contestant. I know some of the people who work on the show Sad times!

Edited January 13, 2017 by SCB

[Big Al]

What new bridge? Actually I might know this as I think there has been a massive housing estate built/being built on Lubbersthorpe Road and it goes there and presumably is also their access to the M1.

 

 

 

I always try to avert my eyes from even a quick glance of looking up there.

Back in the old days I'd hide Penthouse inside Speedway Star at the checkout. These days it would more likely be the other way round

[1 valve]

Of course there were people keeping the pressure on to bring speedway back, just like their was with Birmingham.

So not disrespecting any of those involved in that process of that's the tone you have taken.

 

It still needs someone with the ability, money and power to make it happen.

the bottom line to this debate is that speedway returned to Leicester due to the efforts of many including DH. I am sure there were opportunities for others to arrange funding and provide a viable promotion but for what ever reason they did not materialize and ultimately DH got hold of the reigns. As we now know, over time DH made mistakes which were avoidable (isn't hindsight a wonderful thing) and has paid the price.

Now we need to look forward in the hope that others will learn from the mistakes made and along with the sport in general, become better organised, profitable and thus able to go from strength to strength.

With thanks to all of those who have gone before whom without, there would be no opportunity to take advantage of I say GOOD LUCK TO ALL CONCERNED - Hope we have a sunny summer!

[A ORLOV]

Justin Sedgeman leading the Aussie Championships by 3 points after winning round 3. Rumoured to be heading to the Lions and sounds like he's in great form!

Justin has confirmed he has had talks with Leicester but nothing is signed or agreed yet, on his current form he would be a good signing.

[speedibee]

Justin has confirmed he has had talks with Leicester but nothing is signed or agreed yet, on his current form he would be a good signing.

what sort of ave would he be , I assume you are judging current form on the basis of his Aussie Champs standing ?

[A ORLOV]

what sort of ave would he be , I assume you are judging current form on the basis of his Aussie Champs standing ?

7.6 of the 50 point limit.

He is doing well in the Aussie Champs but even at Swindon last year he ended with an av of 5.4 so not a bad 2nd string.

Last year he got 5 and 9 in Swindons meetings at Leicester, the 9 was as a heat leader number 5, 2,3,1,1,2,0, so not bad.

Edited January 13, 2017 by A ORLOV

[Shale Searcher]

Did Nikolai Klindt win an award last night at that sports do at the Leicester Tigers ground? Where Alan Birchenall had his heart attack? Noticed his name on the wall of fame there??

[speedibee]

the bottom line to this debate is that speedway returned to Leicester due to the efforts of many including DH. I am sure there were opportunities for others to arrange funding and provide a viable promotion but for what ever reason they did not materialize and ultimately DH got hold of the reigns. As we now know, over time DH made mistakes which were avoidable (isn't hindsight a wonderful thing) and has paid the price.

Now we need to look forward in the hope that others will learn from the mistakes made and along with the sport in general, become better organised, profitable and thus able to go from strength to strength.

With thanks to all of those who have gone before whom without, there would be no opportunity to take advantage of I say GOOD LUCK TO ALL CONCERNED - Hope we have a sunny summer!

As I have previously said .Hemsley brought nothing back ,everything was signed and sealed BEFORE he was involved , Sam Ermolenko was in place as the project manager long before Hemsley arrived , and was the first casualty of the ego ,

7.6 of the 50 point limit.

He is doing well in the Aussie Champs but even at Swindon last year he ended with an av of 5.4 so not a bad 2nd string.

Last year he got 5 and 9 in Swindons meetings at Leicester, the 9 was as a heat leader number 5, 2,3,1,1,2,0, so not bad.

he's been around a fair old while , But I suppose 7.6 from 50 is not too much of an expectation to achieve , the field in this years Aussie champs is actually pretty weak ,so not really a good indicator as to expected form .

[stevethelion]

Did Nikolai Klindt win an award last night at that sports do at the Leicester Tigers ground? Where Alan Birchenall had his heart attack? Noticed his name on the wall of fame there??

I think Klindt was there to present an award, not receive one. The story in the on-line version of the Mercury says " Birchenall was on stage with speedway rider Nicolai Klindt & about to present the team of the year award". Obviously Lions didn't win the team of the year award that went to the Leicester Riders Basketball team ( the football team & were due to receive a special award later before the awards were cut short) .

[1 valve]

As I have previously said .Hemsley brought nothing back ,everything was signed and sealed BEFORE he was involved , Sam Ermolenko was in place as the project manager long before Hemsley arrived , and was the first casualty of the ego ,

 

 

If things were signed and sealed then signed and sealed by who? following your logic there was somebody other than DH who arranged everything without any input whatsoever from him. If that was the case then why didn't those people carry on with the project instead of simply letting DH take over? for you to say "Hemsley brought nothing back" is an inaccurate statement.

Clearly there were people involved prior to DH but ultimately he was the one who made it happen similarly he played a part in his own downfall.

[Theboss]

As I have previously said .Hemsley brought nothing back ,everything was signed and sealed BEFORE he was involved , Sam Ermolenko was in place as the project manager long before Hemsley arrived , and was the first casualty of the ego.

That is totally incorrect, ermelenko arrived a long time after Hemsley was involved. I know because I assistied DH with getting the lease granted by the local council. I attended a couple of council meetings and also ran a Stars V Leicester meeting to raise public awareness (received good local TV news coverage).

 

I was never in it to be the promoter but saw it as an opportunity to help, as I am sure many others did. Once the lease was agreed and planning consented DH went about raising the funds to build the stadium, at that point I was no longer involved and I believe that was when ermelenko arrived.

 

Ken Naylor and others will back me up on this, and whilst DH may not have proved to be a good promoter, the stadium solely exists for the Lions team to race in because of the capital he invested (which in my opinion was a risk 999 out of a 1000 would never take).

[speedibee]

 

 

That is totally incorrect, ermelenko arrived a long time after Hemsley was involved. I know because I assistied DH with getting the lease granted by the local council. I attended a couple of council meetings and also ran a Stars V Leicester meeting to raise public awareness (received good local TV news coverage).

 

I was never in it to be the promoter but saw it as an opportunity to help, as I am sure many others did. Once the lease was agreed and planning consented DH went about raising the funds to build the stadium, at that point I was no longer involved and I believe that was when ermelenko arrived.

 

Ken Naylor and others will back me up on this, and whilst DH may not have proved to be a good promoter, the stadium solely exists for the Lions team to race in because of the capital he invested (which in my opinion was a risk 999 out of a 1000 would never take).

the meetings at the club down near the cycle speedway attracted good media attention , I was at the very last one , when everything was signed and sealed , and Hemsley was introduced as the new Messiah

Edited January 14, 2017 by speedibee

[Theboss]

 

the meetings at the club down near the cycle speedway attracted good media attention , I was at the very last one , when everything was signed and sealed , and Hemsley was introduced as the new Messiah

I am sure it did but what about the 2 to 3 years previous, who do you think was behind getting to that point?

 

Look maybe it was explained at the time and obviously you was not prove to all the work beforehand, but I can assure you this is what happened and Ermelenko only came along after the majority of the work had been done by DJ and many others such as Ken Naylor and myself.

 

Actually thinking about it, it was definitely never explained as I never even got a 'thank you' and neither did many others, we were brushed aside as soon as DH got planning.

 

Update: I can confirm ermelenko was introduced to the fans in November 2009 whilst this video from a TV news story in 2007 confirms majority of what I have previously said

Edited January 14, 2017 by jchapman

[1 valve]

I am sure it did but what about the 2 to 3 years previous, who do you think was behind getting to that point?

 

Look maybe it was explained at the time and obviously you was not prove to all the work beforehand, but I can assure you this is what happened and Ermelenko only came along after the majority of the work had been done by DJ and many others such as Ken Naylor and myself.

 

Actually thinking about it, it was definitely never explained as I never even got a 'thank you' and neither did many others, we were brushed aside as soon as DH got planning.

 

Update: I can confirm ermelenko was introduced to the fans in November 2009 whilst this video from a TV news story in 2007 confirms majority of what I have previously said

Jonathan, Thanks for confirming the dateline of Sams involvement etc. There is somewhere a youtube video of DH introducing Ermolenko to the supporters for the first time which supports your feedback although didn't realise you had been pushed aside once DH had got things sorted, though I did wonder why you had not continued your involvement alongside Ken Naylor and others. so a belated thank you for all that the tremendous work and effort you put contributed in getting the Lions back up and running in Leicester.

Edited January 14, 2017 by 1 valve