screm Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. If that is true then it is little wonder some clubs are in financial difficulties and living beyond their means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 A PL number 1 with a decent business brain will clear 40k a season, without doubling up. Absolute rubbish. A PL number 1 would need to be on £100 a point [ as rare as hens teeth] would need to score a max every meeting home and away to get anywhere near that figure and then you need to take away his costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Part time riders would still have the same costs highlighted by benR195. And remember most riders live in the south so traveling hundreds of miles on reduced money would not be an option.Its a sport ,if you want to do it for a living fair enough.Not seen many riders pack it in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Absolute rubbish. A PL number 1 would need to be on £100 a point [ as rare as hens teeth] would need to score a max every meeting home and away to get anywhere near that figure and then you need to take away his costs. Maybe that figure included sponsors money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Any idea what points money riders are on? Like a no.1 2nd string and reserve would be interesting to know where i work im on more than most others are on but i dont discuess it that much the same will happen with speedway riders as allready said its not that simple some riders might get part payment from club and a sponser might pay so much aswell then there is other things that could be taken into account like do they just get points money or does the club pay for accomadation or a van its very hard to say whos on the best deal and it deiffers from club to club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Why is it we know what the best player for man utd gets but not what a Speedway team best riders gets How do we know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 As people have mentioned it's the costs that's the problem. I seem to remember Tai when he was being interviewed said it would cost him in excess of 300k to complete the 2014 season with traveling to Poland, Sweden and Britain as well as the GP's taking into account bike costs, flights, travel, accommodation and mechanics and that was even before he took into account his living costs. You can see why speedway riders need sponsorship to compete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Fact mate, not rubbish, don't think you read the "decent business brain" bit, not my fault some Riders can hardly spell their own name, let alone attract a major Sponsor, not just someone who buys them a tyre, and then think they own the Rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Why is it we know what the best player for man utd gets but not what a Speedway team best riders gets you may know the figure the club gives out but they will also get a big chunk from personal sponsers and the bigger the player is in the public eye the more personal sponsership they will have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Fact mate, not rubbish, don't think you read the "decent business brain" bit, not my fault some Riders can hardly spell their own name, let alone attract a major Sponsor, not just someone who buys them a tyre, and then think they own the Rider. Fact or not I would doubt any PL No1 is on that kind of money, even with the help of sponsors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Fact or not I would doubt any PL No1 is on that kind of money, even with the help of sponsors. 24 league meetings say 10 to 15 in other comps guest bookings ? it is possible to bring in £40,000 over the season if there on close to £100 a point but over half that figure would be lost with costs so earning less than most of us earn before tax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 1976 NL number 1( NOW PL) with doubling up guest bookings averaged between £300-£400 a week which included a guaranteed sum before going to the tapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) 1976 NL number 1( NOW PL) with doubling up guest bookings averaged between £300-£400 a week which included a guaranteed sum before going to the tapes that wont cover expenssess and provide enough income to live on must have another soarce of income or have good family around them suerly theres no riders still riding that were around riding in 1976 thats 40 years ago would make them mid 50's at best or are you saying they earned 300 to 400 in 1976 thats a lot of money but a totaly different ball game and cant really be compared i know people that earned 300 a week 25 years ago but now earn minimum wage Edited October 12, 2016 by scarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 that wont cover expenssess and provide enough income to live on must have another soarce of income or have good family around them You are right he was fully sponsored and tuning was done in house all he had to find was his leathers ,boots and helmet .He did work in the off season and took add hock work during the season but accepted that he would never make a fortune at the sport and thought of it as paying hobby and did it for the love of it .This was agreat period in speedway history perhaps modern day riders may need a reality check and accept the sport can't support them as a full time career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 suerly theres no riders still riding that were around riding in 1976 thats 40 years ago would make them mid 50's at best in 1976 the equivalent of the PL was called the NL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 that wont cover expenssess and provide enough income to live on must have another soarce of income or have good family around them suerly theres no riders still riding that were around riding in 1976 thats 40 years ago would make them mid 50's at best or are you saying they earned 300 to 400 in 1976 thats a lot of money but a totaly different ball game and cant really be compared i know people that earned 300 a week 25 years ago but now earn minimum wage I didn't realise you know me scarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 1976 NL number 1( NOW PL) with doubling up guest bookings averaged between £300-£400 a week which included a guaranteed sum before going to the tapes In 1976 the NL number 1 was Joe Owen who used to double up with Hull .... Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 in 1976 the equivalent of the PL was called the NL was it not N.N.L.(new national league) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 was it not N.N.L.(new national league) ?By 76 it was just the NL wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 In 1976 the NL number 1 was Joe Owen who used to double up with Hull .... Just saying I actually meant "an" Nl old second division number 1 rider ( I have NO idea what Joe Owen ever earn ) I apologise if I gave that impression unreservedly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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