The Collapse Of The Pound And The Effect On The El

[A ORLOV]

The thing is Orion the result was a massive shock nobody really expected it i didnt a real shock result .The Establishment were defeated Cameron really underestimated the feeling of the british people and he got it horribly wrong is it right is it Wrong.?.For me if we had got some powers back (Cameron Failed) i would of been happy to stay put.But this decision now is the right thing to do i believe in our country and think we will make a very good fist of it.

And whats more the price of noodles have gone up as well !!!

[orion]

And whats more the price of noodles have gone up as well !!!

The Noodle king has gone Orlov ..the first victim of the out vote .

[Humphrey Appleby]

Why many of them voted to get out was because of all the red tape and paperwork they have to comply with.

They know they'll just get subsidies from the UK government instead.

[A ORLOV]

They know they'll just get subsidies from the UK government instead.

No problem with that as they need to be encouraged to grow more food. We need to produce more and start reducing our level of imports, it will be a small reduction but any reduction will be good.

Edited October 14, 2016 by A ORLOV

[TonyE]

Certainly a few loonies came out of the woodwork with their racist abuse but I don't ascribe to it being 'massive' - what is equally frightening to me is the attempt to overturn the will of the majority!

[Humphrey Appleby]

what is equally frightening to me is the attempt to overturn the will of the majority!

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

[Daytripper]

Back to the point of the tread. Kim Nilsson is coming over for the Lakeside Dinner and Dance which suggests to me he is very likely lining up as a Hammer next year.

 

I would be very surprised if Jake Thorssell is not back at Wolves, from what I hear.

[Steve0]

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

Then those who didn't use their vote should have got down to the polling stations and cast their vote. Sadly (for me and others), the majority who could be bothered to vote voted to exit.

[g13webb]

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

 

It was the will of the people. Those that didn't bother to vote can't be considered. They had the chance like all of us but gave up their opinion when they couldn't be bothered. Although saying that, the turnout was far bigger than the General Election ....

[Deano]

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

 

Nonsense and you know that. You can't count couch potatoes who could not careless how the vote went as remainers.

Edited October 15, 2016 by Deano

[woodenspoon]

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

 

 

Even less of a percentage voted to stay in the EU.

[TonyE]

It's not the will of the majority, as only 37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

I would be embarrassed to make that comment. As you well know, a majority relates to those voting and anyone who cared about the outcome should have expressed their views via the ballot box.

[A ORLOV]

I would be embarrassed to make that comment. As you well know, a majority relates to those voting and anyone who cared about the outcome should have expressed their views via the ballot box.

Some cannot accept that if people do not vote they cannot be included in the result. Maybe more might have voted to stay if cameron had come back from the eu with a decent agreement instead of the cr#p they gave him.

[TonyE]

Some cannot accept that if people do not vote they cannot be included in the result. Maybe more might have voted to stay if cameron had come back from the eu with a decent agreement instead of the cr#p they gave him.

Cameron's mantra was that Britain was better off in a reformed EU - what the latter showed him was that it was incapable of reform (even on a small scale). Any organisation that believes a single currency will actually work across 18 diverse economies just about sums up their intellectual grasp on reality!

[Humphrey Appleby]

Any organisation that believes a single currency will actually work across 18 diverse economies just about sums up their intellectual grasp on reality!

Which is why the euro is the second most traded currency in the world, is the second most widely held reserve currency, and has increased 20% in value against the pound in the past year. Yes, it clearly doesn't work...

[Deano]

Which is why the euro is the second most traded currency in the world, is the second most widely held reserve currency, and has increased 20% in value against the pound in the past year. Yes, it clearly doesn't work...

 

The Celtic tiger ring a bell. Yes I agree I works wonderfully.... however much it is traded. Ask a Greek restaurant owner how happy his family are with the Euro. Unless they have been forced to emigrate of course.

Edited October 15, 2016 by Deano

[Humphrey Appleby]

The Celtic tiger ring a bell. Yes I agree I works wonderfully.... however much it is traded. Ask a Greek restaurant owner how happy his family are with the Euro.

The Greeks shouldn't have continually elected governments that spent more than what they took in taxes, and it would also help if the population was more willing to actually pay those taxes. They brought it upon themselves, and would be in trouble even if they were still using the drachma.

[iris123]

The Greeks shouldn't have continually elected governments that spent more than what they took in taxes, and it would also help if the population was more willing to actually pay those taxes. They brought it upon themselves, and would be in trouble even if they were still using the drachma.

Watched two BBC programmes today.One on the absolute shambles the Greeks have made of the country over the past few decades and how those who bailed them out have tried to bring them to their senses.In typical style it is the EU and Germany who the people direct their anger at instead of those closer to home who are really to blame.Is this because of biased media as is often the case in the UK?

 

The other was on the millions of money the Greens made out of tax avoidance etc from BHS

 

 

Greeks + Greens + corruption

Edited October 15, 2016 by iris123

[Deano]

The Greeks shouldn't have continually elected governments that spent more than what they took in taxes, and it would also help if the population was more willing to actually pay those taxes. They brought it upon themselves, and would be in trouble even if they were still using the drachma.

 

What about those that didn't vote for that elected government? The ones that didn't vote to spend more money than they had... as per your referendum argument.

 

or are you now claiming both the Eu referendum and the Greeks voting in spenders is democratically correct?

Edited October 15, 2016 by Deano

[A ORLOV]

Watched two BBC programmes today.One on the absolute shambles the Greeks have made of the country over the past few decades and how those who bailed them out have tried to bring them to their senses.In typical style it is the EU and Germany who the people direct their anger at instead of those closer to home who are really to blame.Is this because of biased media as is often the case in the UK?

 

The other was on the millions of money the Greens made out of tax avoidance etc from BHS

 

 

Greeks + Greens + corruption

There is plenty wrong with the eu and was before the greek crisis came to a head.

Yes the greek govt were basket cases and allowed anyone who was in a position to not pay their taxes to do so, and what happened when they announced they were going to clamp down, millions were taken out of greece and invested abroad.

When the eu expanded greece should not have been allowed to join it, it fiddled its figures and was given a too high convergence rate, but the egos of those in charge of the eu at the time wanted to appear powerful and would not admit they were wrong in inviting greece to join. Even after this was known the eu still offered them loans that they knew they would either struggle to or never pay back.