The Collapse Of The Pound And The Effect On The El

[TonyE]

Well I certainly agree with you on that one Deano.

 

In particular, the 172 back-stabbing traitors who knived Jeremy Corbyn in the back.

 

Utter pond-life. Career politicians who wouldn't know the true values and meaning of Socialism if it bit them squarely on the @rse.

 

I just hope and pray that they are ALL de-selected by their respective PLP's.

You may be misrepresenting them - perhaps what they do know is that they will never achieve power on that platform.

[orion]

 

I wouldn't hold your breath. If they had names of companies do you think they wouldn't name them.Yet more project fear.

Or maybe they mean companies like Peugeot, perhaps closing down their Stoke Engines plant and huge Ryton assembly line and relocating to mainland Europe. Except that already happened 10 years ago, when we were as far as I remember in the EU, a move facilitated by EU grants to Peugeot.Losing thousands of jobs in Coventry.

More bad brexit news ,ING the Dutch Banking concern are creating new jobs in the City, indeed moving jobs from Brussels (oh the irony) to London.So the exact opposite of what we were told would happen. Indeed the IMF one of their beloved experts have confirmed that the UK is the fastest growing economy in the G7.

Yesterday showed how much some people seemingly hate their own country. Instead of cheering the great news for the North East and the UK, all they could do is whine and carp,perhaps an indication of where their true loyalties lie.They seem more interested in scoring political points, and would rather see bad news for the country if it means aiding their perverse viewpoint. It is clear the Great Remain Sulk goes on.

We can only properly judge if Brexit was right or wrong 5 or 6 years down the track.

As I said before ..if the vote had gone the other way you would acted the same way as you accused others of now ...there is the vote had gone the other way you would have been one of the first to gloat if things had gone wrong in the uk so you could blame the Eu like you always do .

 

As someone has asked you before if we are fastest growing economy why are we leaving ?

[stevebrum]

may inadvertently do the sport a favour - the EL in the main can't afford these riders but have to have them to be competitive. Would bring down the standard of EL slightly and costs significantly. Wouldn't make the sport any less exciting in my experience. Of course the EL snobs will throw their hands up in the air 'we need our big names': trust me you don't - you need the sport to survive first and foremost.

 

I for one am a proud EL snob, but not a blinkered one.

We DO need some of the top boys over here otherwise we become a glorified 2nd division nation. There isn't one credible nation (Australia exempt and USA ignored as they have no credibility after the world cup fiasco) that doesn't have a credible top level of racing. And we need that. Just how do those aspiring to move up the ladder when they have no real competition to push them? Poland and Sweden hardly touch British riders now so will have zero chance with no top flight to compete in.

I watch all levels of racing and have had the pleasure of watching the youngest team in the country win the national league this week. Great to watch development happening however as I don't pay to watch that standard of racing (as staff) it isn't something I choose to watch on any regular basis.

why? Because the standard of racing isn't as good pure and simple. Don't think I'm dissing the NL, as I'm far from it. It's just about preference.

A PL standard EL will see further fans lost to the sport on any regular basis. Yet this is the way to go??? Beyond crazy.

 

Is there much difference now between EL and PL Leicester's line up this year really was of PL standard.

Always has been, always will be unless they alter that. Leicester would have likely won the PL with that side.

There's a very simple reason why people voted to leave the EU.

It's because they are primarily racist (Phil Rising aside).

Sadly, many don't even possess the gonads to even admit it.

Which says more about you than those with reasons to leave.

[tellboy]

you will just have to except it Steve it's not going away

He can't see beyond those blue tints again

[charlie17]

" The Voice of Reason"?... The one thing you are not..

[g13webb]

As I said before ..if the vote had gone the other way you would acted the same way as you accused others of now ...there is the vote had gone the other way you would have been one of the first to gloat if things had gone wrong in the uk so you could blame the Eu like you always do .

 

As someone has asked you before if we are fastest growing economy why are we leaving ?

 

Remembering the first referendum back in the 70's when we first voted to join the Common Market, there wasn't this background of attitudes against the outcome. I appreciate the result was more conclusive then but, as I remember everyone accepted it.......even those who were dead against it at the time.......

[orion]

Hardly the same thing i dont think they had a party called ukip and the amount of support they have back then or facebook forums etc plus a millions other things .its just cracks me up the outers moaning because people wont accept the result .they must be on another planet to think they would have just accepted it and got on with it being in the eu ..

[BluPanther]

Hardly the same thing i dont think they had a party called ukip and the amount of support they have back then or facebook forums etc plus a millions other things .its just cracks me up the outers moaning because people wont accept the result .they must be on another planet to think they would have just accepted it and got on with it being in the eu ..

Democracy is all about accepting democratic voting. Would you rather beat people with a stick until they change their mind....

[A ORLOV]

Democracy is all about accepting democratic voting. Would you rather beat people with a stick until they change their mind....

Or continually moaning about the outcome like a couple on here.

[Steve Shovlar]

The problem was the public should never have been anywhere near a vote of such magnitude as this. The common man or woman doesn't have the understanding of what they were voting for, and as such have caused a catastrophe for the United Kingdom.

 

The majority of brexit voters don't understand the economics involved. Instead they voted to keep the migrants out and 'get their country back'. Well, that isn't going to change. The EU migrants will continue to enter the UK just as before. And if anyone thinks new UK laws which are answerable to no one is good, they need their head examined. No European courts to appeal to if you feel you are being treated unfairly.

 

With price rises now starting to show across the board from food to electricals to fuel to trips abroad, how long will it be before the bleating starts and these brexit people start to moan at the government to "do something about it". Yet they are the very people who have caused these price increases. And its only going to get worse over 2017, with most economists expecting parity between the pound and euro by the end of next year.

 

I do wish the government had the balls for a second referendum just to clarify what people want. Now the effects of brexit are starting to show I would put my money on a landslide vote to remain. Most people don't like to see a shrinking wallet and unable to now afford holidays abroad.

Edited October 29, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[A ORLOV]

The problem was the public should never have been anywhere near a vote of such magnitude as this. The common man or woman dorsn't have the understanding of what they were voting for, and as such have caused a catastrophe for the United Kingdom.

 

The majority of brexit voters don't understand the economics involved. Instead they voted to keep the migrants out and 'get their country back'. Well, that isn't going to change. The EU migrants will continue to enter the UK just as before. And if anyone thinks new UK laws which are answerable to no one is good, they need their head examined. No European courts to appeal to if you feel you are being treated unfairly.

 

With price rises now starting to show across the board from food to electricals to fuel to trips abroad, how long will it be before the bleating starts and these brexit people start to moan at the government to "do something about it". Yet they are the very people who have caused these price increases. And its only going to get worse over 2017, with most economists expecting parity between the pound and euro by the end of next year.

 

I do wish the government had the balls for a second referendum just to clarify what people want. Now the effects of brexit are starting to show I would put my money on a landslide vote to remain. Most people don't like to see a shrinking wallet and unable to now afford holidays abroad.

Well if you did not understand what you were voting for why did you vote to remain.

Of course the public should have had a vote as what was shown was that the govt was out of touch with the people and had ignored the problems that had been building up, mainly with the eu in the way it has changed from its original conception .

Edited October 29, 2016 by A ORLOV

[g13webb]

Hardly the same thing i dont think they had a party called ukip and the amount of support they have back then or facebook forums etc plus a millions other things .its just cracks me up the outers moaning because people wont accept the result .they must be on another planet to think they would have just accepted it and got on with it being in the eu ..

 

This is what democracy is all about. It is what makes Britain great. Take that away, and we would be in the same situation as many other third world countries. Having free speech is wonderful, points can be viewed and decisions made. But when a vote is taken, that is the time then we should comply......

 

 

The problem was the public should never have been anywhere near a vote of such magnitude as this. The common man or woman dorsn't have the understanding of what they were voting for, and as such have caused a catastrophe for the United Kingdom.

 

The majority of brexit voters don't understand the economics involved. Instead they voted to keep the migrants out and 'get their country back'. Well, that isn't going to change. The EU migrants will continue to enter the UK just as before. And if anyone thinks new UK laws which are answerable to no one is good, they need their head examined. No European courts to appeal to if you feel you are being treated unfairly.

 

With price rises now starting to show across the board from food to electricals to fuel to trips abroad, how long will it be before the bleating starts and these brexit people start to moan at the government to "do something about it". Yet they are the very people who have caused these price increases. And its only going to get worse over 2017, with most economists expecting parity between the pound and euro by the end of next year.

 

I do wish the government had the balls for a second referendum just to clarify what people want. Now the effects of brexit are starting to show I would put my money on a landslide vote to remain. Most people don't like to see a shrinking wallet and unable to now afford holidays abroad.

 

Unlike you I believe the public have a right to vote. Probably they don't understand the economics but there are many things they do understand, and in their eyes equally as important as you place on monetary terms. You have this conception that everybody feels as you do.

I believe I made the right choice in voting to leave. I did a lot of soul searching and investigation before making that choice. No doubt other people did the same thing. If the vote was taken again today I would still vote the same way. 3months down the line I haven't seen anything yet to cause me concern..

 

The public made their choice and were entitled to their view. The fact it differed from your opinion is unfortunate.... Get over it......

Edited October 29, 2016 by GRW123

[kingbee]

The problem was the public should never have been anywhere near a vote of such magnitude as this. The common man or woman dorsn't have the understanding of what they were voting for, and as such have caused a catastrophe for the United Kingdom.

The majority of brexit voters don't understand the economics involved. Instead they voted to keep the migrants out and 'get their country back'. Well, that isn't going to change. The EU migrants will continue to enter the UK just as before. And if anyone thinks new UK laws which are answerable to no one is good, they need their head examined. No European courts to appeal to if you feel you are being treated unfairly.

With price rises now starting to show across the board from food to electricals to fuel to trips abroad, how long will it be before the bleating starts and these brexit people start to moan at the government to "do something about it". Yet they are the very people who have caused these price increases. And its only going to get worse over 2017, with most economists expecting parity between the pound and euro by the end of next year.

I do wish the government had the balls for a second referendum just to clarify what people want. Now the effects of brexit are starting to show I would put my money on a landslide vote to remain. Most people don't like to see a shrinking wallet and unable to now afford holidays abroad.

So when we have the next general election if people don't like the outcome we will have another vote .And what right have you to call people common and don't understand the economic's involved because it didn't suit you

I think this thread should be locked it has nothing to do with speedway Shovlar is just using it to spout his drivel about Brexit

[Steve Shovlar]

So when we have the next general election if people don't like the outcome we will have another vote .And what right have you to call people common and don't understand the economic's involved because it didn't suit you I think this thread should be locked it has nothing to do with speedway Shovlar is just using it to spout his drivel about Brexit

Theres a huge difference between this vote and a general election. And perhaps that's why the public shouldn't have been allowed to vote.

 

In a general election if you don't like the result you only have to wait a few years before you can vote again to do something about it.

 

With brexit we are stuffed and have to suffer the consequences for the rest of our lives. When reality finally sets in it will all be too late.

 

Why do you think Blair never let the public vote on this? He didn't think they were intelligent enough to understand what they were actually voting for.

Edited October 29, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[poole keith]

there was only one reason for the referendum,cameron believed a remain vote was inevatable and once and for all the euro sceptics in the tory party could be silenced forever,gamble backfired and our children and grandchildren are going to suffer the consequences

[Humphrey Appleby]

there was only one reason for the referendum,cameron believed a remain vote was inevatable and once and for all the euro sceptics in the tory party could be silenced forever,gamble backfired and our children and grandchildren are going to suffer the consequences

I don't believe a vote was inevitable at all. Cameron was just too weak to stand up to usual elements within his own party - something that Thatcher and even John Major managed. Simple demographics of old people dying and younger people joining the electorate would also diminish the 'inevitability'.

 

Such a vote was never going to resolve anything because even if remain had won, it would never have been by enough to silence the Brexiteers.

 

It needed strong leadership to make the case for staying in the EU, and if necessary enact changes by withholding funding and using the UK veto powers.

Edited October 29, 2016 by Humphrey Appleby

[A ORLOV]

I don't believe a vote was inevitable at all. Cameron was just too weak to stand up to usual elements within his own party - something that Thatcher and even John Major managed. Simple demographics of old people dying and younger people joining the electorate would also diminish the 'inevitability'.

 

Such a vote was never going to resolve anything because even if remain had won, it would never have been by enough to silence the Brexiteers.

 

It needed strong leadership to make the case for staying in the EU, and if necessary enact changes by withholding funding and using the UK veto powers.

It also needed the govt to take note of the feelings, thoughts and experiences of a lot of the population and not assume they knew best and that everything was based in the south east, as the result showed them they did not know best.

No doubt you remember the incident when that arrogant pr#ck brown called Mrs Duffy a bigoted woman which was caught on a mic.

This is the problem with a lot of these politicians thinking they know better than most members of the public.

Edited October 29, 2016 by A ORLOV

[Humphrey Appleby]

It also needed the govt to take note of the feelings, thoughts and experiences of a lot of the population and not assume they knew best and that everything was based in the south east, as the result showed them they did not know best.

49% of the population thought they did, and they weren't anywhere near all in the South-East.

[DunRobin]

Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid. I don't give two hoots for Fred Bloggs and others who voted for brexit. What is important is that I am not affected financially and brexit has affected me which is unacceptable. Sorry I am not a socialist.

 

By the way. Tea's up! Literally.

What an obnoxious man you are! True colours showing now.

[A ORLOV]

49% of the population thought they did, and they weren't anywhere near all in the South-East.

Agreed but the majority of those would have voted to stay in wherever they lived.