The Collapse Of The Pound And The Effect On The El

[The Voice Of Reason]

Then what was your reason?

 

There was no economic plan; just utter lies and deceit anyone could see through Phil.

[E I Addio]

I thought about putting that on here but thought it would just lead to a load of abuse so left it. Rare that you and I agree on a topic.

Yeah, of course they are . No doubt about it. Even went to war in 1939 because they didnt want those stinking Germans over here running the show. Bloody racists.

 

Or, to put it another way round, it's amazing how people always play the race card when all else fails. Except that most of Northern Europe is all the same race anyway. You wouldn't know where most Europeans originate from until they open their mouths. Drifterent nationalities, same race. Therefore, not racists.

[The Voice Of Reason]

Yeah, of course they are . No doubt about it. Even went to war in 1939 because they didnt want those stinking Germans over here running the show. Bloody racists.

 

And if it hadn't been for Czechs, and primarily Polish fighter pilots, a year later in the Summer of 1940 then there's every likelihood they would have been here running it.

 

But nah.....what have Eastern Europeans ever done for us, eh?

Edited October 10, 2016 by The Voice Of Reason

[Steve Shovlar]

So does all this mean there won't be many Continentals riding EL in 2017?

Edited October 10, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[E I Addio]

And if it hadn't been for Czechs and primarily Polish fighter pilots a year later in the Summer of 1940, there's every liklihood they would have been here running it.

But nah.....what has Eastern Europe ever done for us, eh?

I think Robert Watson-Watt, Sidney Cam, R J Mitchell and Hugh Dowding plus a few others had something to do with all that.

 

Eastern Europes done things for us and we've done things for them (including 1939). No reason why they shouldn't come here if they have a job to go to and a place to live. Whether it means their politicians that their politicians, amongst others, should be EU Commisioners etc directing how the UK should run its affairs is what the referendum was really about

[A ORLOV]

And if it hadn't been for Czechs, and primarily Polish fighter pilots, a year later in the Summer of 1940 then there's every likelihood they would have been here running it.

 

But nah.....what have Eastern Europeans ever done for us, eh?

Many of them were here in order to help us to win the war and in turn free their own countries, and while they were here they did help us fight the axis countries.

[orion]

may inadvertently do the sport a favour - the EL in the main can't afford these riders but have to have them to be competitive. Would bring down the standard of EL slightly and costs significantly. Wouldn't make the sport any less exciting in my experience. Of course the EL snobs will throw their hands up in the air 'we need our big names': trust me you don't - you need the sport to survive first and foremost.

The normal guff about and teams not being able afford riders etc ...it's all about cost and what sort of extra people the better riders bring in etc . since when has making the standard lower and bringing down costs down brought more fans in and made the sport better etc ? we have doing that for 20 years and this I why we found ourselves where we are today become dumb fans think people don't care about the better names .

[TonyE]

So does all this mean there won't be many Continentals riding EL in 2017?

Turn it the other way around. We are still in the EU (at present) and have had non-EU guys riding here for years (mainly Aussies and the occasional Russian) sure a bit of paperwork involved but they rode. Why should it be any different when everything flips sides?

[PHILIPRISING]

Then what was your reason?

 

There was no economic plan; just utter lies and deceit anyone could see through Phil.

I THOUGHT this was a speedway forum ... but since you ask. The reinstatement of British sovereignty, the right of the British people to make and administer their own laws and not be subject to unelected officials elsewhere.

 

No more lies as you put it from the leave camp as the remain (every time Osborne opened his mouth)

 

Anyone could see through it ... well, over 17 million people didn't and the reason there was no economic plan was because Cameron never believed the British people would have the audacity to vote to leave.

 

Plenty of big companies like Dyson and JCB who believe Britain can prosper outside the EU and at the same time control immigration which only a complete idiot, which I presume you are not, would call racism.

[Bagpuss]

Perhaps best to wait and see what transpires from Brexit.

[orion]

Perhaps best to wait and see what transpires from Brexit.

 

Not sure we all be around for when that happens ...we voted to leave without a clue what and how we are going to do it ...

[Hodgy]

Call it what you like immigration was the main reason for the outcome. Predominantly swayed by the elderly wanting their England (sorry Britain) back, without much thought of the economic impact. Respect that's personal choice but many now sit wondering what they actually voted for.

 

Cameron was complacent thinking it was a forgone conclusion. Unfortunately a third of the country thought the same so didn't vote - the younger generation (+60% of them) were too busy in the bars being served by a Polish smile.

[Jonny the spud]

I THOUGHT this was a speedway forum ... but since you ask. The reinstatement of British sovereignty, the right of the British people to make and administer their own laws and not be subject to unelected officials elsewhere.

 

No more lies as you put it from the leave camp as the remain (every time Osborne opened his mouth)

 

Anyone could see through it ... well, over 17 million people didn't and the reason there was no economic plan was because Cameron never believed the British people would have the audacity to vote to leave.

 

Plenty of big companies like Dyson and JCB who believe Britain can prosper outside the EU and at the same time control immigration which only a complete idiot, which I presume you are not, would call racism.

 

 

I always love the "unelected officials making our laws and telling us what to do " rants

 

House of lords anyone ?

[BluPanther]

 

 

I always love the "unelected officials making our laws and telling us what to do " rants

 

House of lords anyone ?

The power of the Lords to reject a bill passed by the House of Commons is severely restricted by the Parliament Acts. Hardly the same as the power unleashed by the unelected 'dish clothes' of the EU...

[RyeHouseExile]

I have not read all the thread but it must be realised that foreign riders over here have expenses over here,thus the only effect will be a percentage reduction in their profit,not their gross income.They will also suffer ( like the rest of us increased cost of imported goods they have to buy here like fuel ).Having said that,it may be that methanol is produced here from non imported raw material,but I have no idea how their expenses break down.However,overall I doubt there will not be a big reduction in profit for them.

 

Just one thought about the referendum vote and other matters raised here.I voted out for several reasons but if there was only one.it would be that for the last 40 odd years we have been lied to by politicians and dragged whether we like it or not into a corrupt and dangerous organization,namely the EU.If they had given us a choice in the first place,the pain would have been non existent.Now we must make the best of a new opportunity and everyone should contact their MP to tell them to do their utmost to that end.I used to like the way this country was but I do not like the way it is now;almost exclusively changed by immigration,again caused by politicians without reference to the electorate.Not racism,but preference.

 

However,I have no problem with foreign riders,it is up to home grown talent to emulate and surpass them.

[The Voice Of Reason]

 

 

I always love the "unelected officials making our laws and telling us what to do " rants

 

House of lords anyone ?

Or Royal Family?

[E I Addio]

I always love the "unelected officials making our laws and telling us what to do " rants

 

House of lords anyone ?

The House of Lords doesn't actually make any laws. It's nothing like the EU parliament at all.

Or Royal Family?

The Royal Family don't make laws either.

[dj350z]

I THOUGHT this was a speedway forum ... but since you ask. The reinstatement of British sovereignty, the right of the British people to make and administer their own laws and not be subject to unelected officials elsewhere.

 

No more lies as you put it from the leave camp as the remain (every time Osborne opened his mouth)

 

Anyone could see through it ... well, over 17 million people didn't and the reason there was no economic plan was because Cameron never believed the British people would have the audacity to vote to leave.

 

Plenty of big companies like Dyson and JCB who believe Britain can prosper outside the EU and at the same time control immigration which only a complete idiot, which I presume you are not, would call racism.

 

The problem is many companies like mine in the manufacturing sector are already suffering with considerable lower order books due to the uncertainty. 2 of my customers are already making plans to relocate their businesses in Europe. The question I have is; what will Britain look like when we 'get back our sovereignty'? Precisely who will not be allowed to come into the country to reduce immigration? These are very important questions and no-one seems to know the answers but many businesses are suffering whilst this debacle rumbles on.

 

I can also name plenty of big companies such as Virgin who think otherwise!

[TonyE]

With key elections due in several countries in the months ahead, it may well be a very different EU that we have to negotiate with anyway.

 

A 'Hard Brexit' is widely anticipated given the intransigence of key European players regarding the four fundamental principles. The latter cannot be negotiated away/varied without risking the very existence of the EU so I am somewhat perplexed when certain individuals keeping stressing that we must maintain tariff free access to the single market as that is incompatible with the outcome of the referendum.

 

Things will settle down eventually - history proves we are a very resilient country.

[SCB]

 

 

I always love the "unelected officials making our laws and telling us what to do " rants

 

House of lords anyone ?

TBF, I and most brexiters would happily get rid of the House of Lords. And even he Royal family if it come to it.

 

As for work permits, if it sees a load of duff riders banned from the PL so what. But while we're still happy to give Mason Campton 3 seasons of failure in the PL I don't see us issuing work permits that effect too many riders!