customhouseregular Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Greatie Yarmouth "custom did you go there? was that once the Blackpool of Norfolk.!! Back in the 60's we would go by coach to Great Yarmouth for the day then on to Kings Lynn to cheer on the 'Ammers. Great days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I thought the Brexit Vote was a wonderful result. For us living in East Anglia we had lost out town, we had lost our society, taken over by the number of migrant. I'm all for anything in moderation but the numbers here are mind boggling. When I voted to leave, believe or not, I didn't give speedway a thought..... It was not that important... Do you really think you are going to get your town back, your society back etc because I don't. They are here to stay. And it won't be so easy as many think to reduce immigration either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Do you really think you are going to get your town back, your society back etc because I don't. They are here to stay. And it won't be so easy as many think to reduce immigration either. It;s rare to hear an English voice in Thetford today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Do you really think you are going to get your town back, your society back etc because I don't. They are here to stay. And it won't be so easy as many think to reduce immigration either. No, I don't suppose we will. But, it appears there are many places in the UK that are not affected by the numbers we have in this neck of the woods. So I could always up sticks and move to elsewhere, at the moment. But that was not the only consideration in our vote. There are many things. Even our own family had different views. It seemed the younger generation wanted to stay while the older ones wanted out. They always have lived in this environment and know no other, whereas us older ones can remember what is was once like. I'm of the belief once it has got sorted we will be far better off in every way. We can dictate our own country and deal with whoever. Some of the ruling of this EU is farcical, and we have to pay through the nose to be part of it. No, the sooner we're out the better.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Not many of these migrants have ventured down our way. I do hear the occasional Polish voice at car boot but thats about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 No, I don't suppose we will. But, it appears there are many places in the UK that are not affected by the numbers we have in this neck of the woods. So I could always up sticks and move to elsewhere, at the moment. But that was not the only consideration in our vote. There are many things. Even our own family had different views. It seemed the younger generation wanted to stay while the older ones wanted out. They always have lived in this environment and know no other, whereas us older ones can remember what is was once like. I'm of the belief once it has got sorted we will be far better off in every way. We can dictate our own country and deal with whoever. Some of the ruling of this EU is farcical, and we have to pay through the nose to be part of it. No, the sooner we're out the better.... My point is GRW is that what concerns me is that immigration is the no1 issue that most people that voted to leave that I have spoken to and they won't get what they have voted for. But individuals and companies are going to have to go through a lot of pain and suffering to achieve what?!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) It;s rare to hear an English voice in Thetford today. It is not only Thetford, some on here and on the europe thread need to visit some of these places and see why so many have voted to halt unlimited immigration. Edited October 10, 2016 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 My point is GRW is that what concerns me is that immigration is the no1 issue that most people that voted to leave that I have spoken to and they won't get what they have voted for. But individuals and companies are going to have to go through a lot of pain and suffering to achieve what?!!!! I honestly don't agree with their perception. These individuals and companies are looking at their own idealistic way and can only see problems. But the bigger picture shows a far better light in that we have always brought more than we sell. EU countries aren't going to stop us trading when it will hurt them more than us. We are the 5th biggest economy in the world, and we are more than strong enough to fight our own battles and deal with who we want. We went to war to fight against dictatorship and here in the EU, we pay a kings ransom to be part of the same thing. I also feel the EU, as we know today, is getting weaker, and give it a couple years, there will be more countries following UK lead.... Not many of these migrants have ventured down our way. I do hear the occasional Polish voice at car boot but thats about it. Probably a good idea to move down there ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) There is no winner out of the vote. Half the country who voted to stay have been led up the creek by the just overhalf who wanted out. So what are we to gain by severing our links with our main trading partners? Nothing but hardship Imo. The pound is already suffering the consequences of the vote and is expected to dive even further in the coming months and years. This will mean massive rises in fuel prices which will affect everyone. So far we have been lucky in that oil prices have been low but as the pound falls fuel will rise as its paid for in Dollars. I hope we dont hear moans from the brexit brigade as petrol prices go through the roof. As for trade, well the brexit mob say we can deal with the world. Sure we can, except the trade agreements are tariff laden. The EU will not under any circumstances allow us to trade with them on an equal footing unless we agree to their demands. So keeping our borders wide open. So isn't that one of the main reasons why people voted brexit? What do they want? Closed borders and visas to enter the UK, or an even playing field with the rest of Europe. It has been stated we will get our way as the Germans will still want to sell their cars here. I don't believe that for a minute. There is no way the eu will allow us to trade freely with europe without tarrifs. Otherwise what is the point of the eu? They will want to make an example out of the uk so other countries don't have the same thoughts. As for immigration. The horse has already bolted. And closed borders mean no trade deals. We wont be dealing the cards and the card holder has them stacked in their favour. I believe the brexit vote will have catastrophic consequences for the citizens of the UK. All doom and gloom? Yep. Edited October 10, 2016 by Steve Shovlar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 There is no winner out of the vote. Half the country who voted to stay have been led up the creek by the just overhalf who wanted out. So what are we to gain by severing our links with our main trading partners? Nothing but hardship Imo. The pound is already suffering the consequences of the vote and is expected to dive even further in the coming months and years. This will mean massive rises in fuel prices which will affect everyone. So far we have been lucky in that oil prices have been low but as the pound falls fuel will rise as its paid for in Dollars. I hope we dont hear moans from the brexit brigade as petrol prices go through the roof. As for trade, well the brexit mob say we can deal with the world. Sure we can, except the trade agreements are tariff laden. The EU will not under any circumstances allow us to trade with them on an equal footing unless we agree to their demands. So keeping our borders wide open. So isn't that one of the main reasons why people voted brexit? What do they want? Closed borders and visas to enter the UK, or an even playing field with the rest of Europe. It has been stated we will get our way as the Germans will still want to sell their cars here. I don't believe that for a minute. There is no way the eu will allow us to trade freely with europe without tarrifs. Otherwise what is the point of the eu? They will want to make an example out of the uk so other countries don't have the same thoughts. As for immigration. The horse has already bolted. And closed borders mean no trade deals. We wont be dealing the cards and the card holder has them stacked in their favour. I believe the brexit vote will have catastrophic consequences for the citizens of the UK. All doom and gloom? Yep. This post is Blinkered by your own view,which i don't share in the long-term we will be stronger as a nation.We are the fifth richest nation so we should be able to ride the storm can you not see the EU was a sinking ship anyway.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 This post is Blinkered by your own view,which i don't share in the long-term we will be stronger as a nation.We are the fifth richest nation so we should be able to ride the storm can you not see the EU was a sinking ship anyway.? Others may see that when other countries leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Not many of these migrants have ventured down our way. I do hear the occasional Polish voice at car boot but thats about it. dont think theres a hotel in poole bournemouth that could stay open without their portugese employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 There is no winner out of the vote. Half the country who voted to stay have been led up the creek by the just overhalf who wanted out. So what are we to gain by severing our links with our main trading partners? Nothing but hardship Imo. The pound is already suffering the consequences of the vote and is expected to dive even further in the coming months and years. This will mean massive rises in fuel prices which will affect everyone. So far we have been lucky in that oil prices have been low but as the pound falls fuel will rise as its paid for in Dollars. I hope we dont hear moans from the brexit brigade as petrol prices go through the roof. As for trade, well the brexit mob say we can deal with the world. Sure we can, except the trade agreements are tariff laden. The EU will not under any circumstances allow us to trade with them on an equal footing unless we agree to their demands. So keeping our borders wide open. So isn't that one of the main reasons why people voted brexit? What do they want? Closed borders and visas to enter the UK, or an even playing field with the rest of Europe. It has been stated we will get our way as the Germans will still want to sell their cars here. I don't believe that for a minute. There is no way the eu will allow us to trade freely with europe without tarrifs. Otherwise what is the point of the eu? They will want to make an example out of the uk so other countries don't have the same thoughts. As for immigration. The horse has already bolted. And closed borders mean no trade deals. We wont be dealing the cards and the card holder has them stacked in their favour. I believe the brexit vote will have catastrophic consequences for the citizens of the UK. All doom and gloom? Yep. Only for self-employed entrepreneurs... So, given that half of Europe, and beyond, helped itself to our housing, our hospitals and welfare system do you think it was right that we carried on allowing these people to do so? Perhaps we should have just allowed the French and the Germans to dictate terms and tell everyone how it was, how it was going to be and we just bend over and take it? Anyway, back to the speedway, for years we, the fans, have moaned about foreigners sitting at reserve on a false average, if that means those inept fools at the BSPA have to finally address the position i.e. think about speedway at all three levels and provide a cohesive and joined up approach then it may be what speedway finally needs. Unfortunately, I think they might just take the Blue Peter attitude....some sticky back plastic and some glue et voila! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessex Wanderer Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Steve I posted once that I always found your posts interesting but I just hoped I would actually agree with one of them sometime. Well, this is the one and unfortunately it happens to be far and away the most serious and important one. Brexit voters have been led into a simple vote on "do we want so many Poles over here?" Without giving any regard to the economics or practicalities of he case. The fact that the NHS would be in even more major trouble if we lost all the EU trained staff was hardly mentioned, nor has the future of our economy. All we heard was "we can renegotiate trade agreements". Well so can they and it's gonna hurt. These days we can no longer send in a gun boat and say "sign or else" as in days of yore. I don't expect the vote will affect me too much as I will likely be pushing up daisies by the time the implications of our exit really strike. It is the kids who are still in primary schools that I really feel sorry for. For a lot of them their career hope will be to get a work permit to go work in France or Germany or even ....... Poland. Anybody notice that the two most voluable Brexit guys got out as soon as they saw what they had done? Farage resigned and Bumbling Boris dropped his bid for party leadership. Neither wanted any part in trying to fix the mess they had created. Never hoped so much that I will be wrong but ........... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Throughout my life time we have been told pain today for jam tomorrow . We have had plenty of pain but as one gets older there is not much time left for the jam. Edited October 10, 2016 by wealdstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 The weak pound also makes it much cheaper for those on foreign shores to buy up any remaining UK companies. Quite ironic really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 The weak pound also makes it much cheaper for those on foreign shores to buy up any remaining UK companies. Quite ironic really.. Well, they had better be quick because there aren't many left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 And its just been announced on the 6 o'clock bbc news that petrol prices are about to rise by 5p a litre imminently. Directly caused by the brexit vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 And its just been announced on the 6 o'clock bbc news that petrol prices are about to rise by 5p a litre imminently. Directly caused by the brexit vote. More accurately, as a result of the politicians charged with the task of implementing the mechanism for this country to exit the EU having no coherent plan. Markets hate uncertainty and hopefully, when our political chums get their act together and lay down the timetable and terms of our exit, then the pound will rise in value against the dollar and petrol prices will fall again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 'Markets hate uncertainty' - but the FTSE is nudging 7100 today - the highest for some considerable time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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